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    belH
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    Peace all,

    Happy Rammadan

    The Following are important links to understand how Month is calculated?

    http//aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/MoonPhase.php
    http//aa.usno.navy.mil/faq/docs/islamic.php
    http//aa.usno.navy.mil/graphics/Moon_movie.gif
    Peace

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      Peace all,

      Happy Rammadan

      The Following are important links to understand how Month is calculated?

      http//aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/MoonPhase.php
      http//aa.usno.navy.mil/faq/docs/islamic.php
      http//aa.usno.navy.mil/graphics/Moon_movie.gif
      Peace

      Salaam
      Allhumdullilah we are about to witness the month of Ramadan from the eveing of Sunday.
      May we all complete our fasts in this blessed month

      Ramadan starts from Sunday evening and first fast is on Monday

      http//www.moonsighting.com/

      Happy fasting

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        belH
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        Salaam
        Allhumdullilah we are about to witness the month of Ramadan from the eveing of Sunday.
        May we all complete our fasts in this blessed month

        Ramadan starts from Sunday evening and first fast is on Monday

        http//www.moonsighting.com/

        Happy fasting

        Happy Ramadan To you as well

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          ayman
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          Peace Belal,

          Happy Rammadan
          The Following are important links to understand how Month is calculated?
          http//aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/MoonPhase.php
          http//aa.usno.navy.mil/faq/docs/islamic.php
          http//aa.usno.navy.mil/graphics/Moon_movie.gif

          You don't even know the meaning of the Arabic word "ramadan". So how can you wish happy something that you don't know to people?

          Peace,

          Ayman

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            farida
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            Peace Belal,

            You don't even know the meaning of the Arabic word "ramadan". So how can you wish happy something that you don't know to people?

            Peace,

            Ayman

            Salaam Ayman

            I would relly appreciate if you could tell me the meaning of the Arabic word "Umar"?
            peace

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              anthonywallace
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              Today 9/1/08 is the first fast day right??? Some say it was on aug 30...

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                Supernaut
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                Ra-Miim-Dad = to be burning, heat, be blasted by the sun. ramaDda - to sharpen (a spear) between stones, roast, pasture on a burning ground, burn. ramDda - scorching heat, burning hot (ground). ramadzan - the ninth month of Islamic calendar, the month of fast.

                ramadan n. 2185

                Source http//www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm

                ,.ai. 3 , (s, Mgh, Mh, K,) and
                alone, for tihe latter, though disapl)roved by some
                of the learned, occurs in a trad., (MAlgh, Mob,
                TA,) and in poetry, (TA,) but not t.*l, for
                this is incorrect, (Mhgh,) The ninthi of the Arabian
                months (TA) so called because, when they
                changed the names of the months from the ancient
                language, they named tlhemni according to the
                seasons in whiich tlhey fell, (Jm, S, K,) and this
                month, (Jm, 8,) or i,U, (IK,) for this was its
                ancient name, (TA,) agreed with tlhe days of
                vehement hbent (Jm, 8, Mgh, M.b, K) or from ,, said of a man fasting, expl.
                above (Fr, ] ) or because
                it burned sins;

                Source http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume3/00000323.pdf

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                  I am also fasting my fist day today, Monday. I have seen some here have said Ramadan is during the heat months. Is it still 30 days and where did the 10 days come from?

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                    Peace Farida,

                    I would relly appreciate if you could tell me the meaning of the Arabic word "Umar"?
                    peace

                    I assume that you are asking about the proper name Umar (since you capitalized the U). The proper name Umar is meaningless. It is just a meaningless label. It is as meaningless as other proper names such as Farida and Ayman. Hence those names are not translated when we speak in English. As for the common noun, you can see the meanings here

                    http//www.baheth.info/all.jsp?term=

                    I hope that you can see why it is not surprising that people who don't know what "ramadan" means are clueless about when it occurs because they assume that the word is meaningless and thus completely ignore it. In reality it is not meaningless and the meaning fits perfectly in the context of determining the timing.

                    Peace,

                    Ayman

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                      rsw
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                      Umar. prosperous. Full Of Life. Large. Substantial. root Umrmeans Life. Any Other Questions Before You Answer Yours?

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                        belH
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                        Peace Belal,

                        You don't even know the meaning of the Arabic word "ramadan". So how can you wish happy something that you don't know to people?

                        Peace,

                        Ayman

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                        Ayman, calm down! Do you experience this state of Stress (Fojoor) every Ramadan?
                        Are you Angry because you are the only so called Moslem (and your Sects) who believes that Ramadan in June and fasting is Ten Days?
                        Will confused? !that could cause Stress.

                        Now, my advice to you is to either reevaluate your position, or come up with a logic conclusion that can make sense to you (so you can feel better and make peace with yourself) and maybe Moslem would listen to it.

                        Now, What does Rammadan Means?

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                          belH
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                          Today 9/1/08 is the first fast day right??? Some say it was on aug 30...

                          Yes, today when I started my Fasting; and I believe, based on the Crescent Size, Today is more accurate.
                          Peace

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                            Peace Belal,

                            Ayman, calm down! Do you experience this state of Stress (Fojoor) every Ramadan?
                            Are you Angry because you are the only so called Moslem (and your Sects) who believes that Ramadan in June and fasting is Ten Days?
                            Will confused? !that could cause Stress.
                            Now, my advice to you is to either reevaluate your position, or come up with a logic conclusion that can make sense to you (so you can feel better and make peace with yourself) and maybe Moslem would listen to it.
                            Now, What does Rammadan Means?

                            As I said and you admitted, you don't know what "ramadan" means. You should find out what it means instead of wasting your time on empty rhetoric.

                            Peace,

                            Ayman

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                              farida
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                              Peace Farida,

                              I assume that you are asking about the proper name Umar (since you capitalized the U). The proper name Umar is meaningless. It is just a meaningless label. It is as meaningless as other proper names such as Farida and Ayman. Hence those names are not translated when we speak in English. As for the common noun, you can see the meanings here

                              http//www.baheth.info/all.jsp?term=

                              I hope that you can see why it is not surprising that people who don't know what "ramadan" means are clueless about when it occurs because they assume that the word is meaningless and thus completely ignore it. In reality it is not meaningless and the meaning fits perfectly in the context of determining the timing.

                              Peace,

                              Ayman

                              Salaam Ayman,
                              I am sorry I should have written "omar"/ but, as there is no capital in the turkish language, dont take it as name but just a an Arabic word and I will appreciate if you could give me its meaning please!!!!
                              peace
                              BTW farida means unique and I don't use a capital as you can see above.

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                                ayman
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                                Salaam Ayman,
                                I am sorry I should have written "omar"/ but, as there is no capital in the turkish language, dont take it as name but just a an Arabic word and I will appreciate if you could give me its meaning please!!!!
                                peace
                                BTW farida means unique and I don't use a capital as you can see above.

                                The word as RSW pointed out means prosporous, full of life, long-living, etc. As with all translations, it would really depend on the context which of the meanings one would use. So it would help if you put it in a sentence.

                                As for "farida" meaning unique, if you are using it as a common noun then you should translate it in this English conversation like all common nouns. It is only proper names that are not translated. Capitalization is not the main criteria since we don't speak in capital and yet we are able to tell in a conversation a proper name from a common noun. We can tell based on context.

                                I hope I have answered your question.

                                Peace,

                                Ayman

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                                  Peace Ayman,

                                  Are you saying we should fast/abstain (from food, sex, und so weiter) in the hottest month of the year instead of a particular month in the lunar calendar which may be a very cool one? If that's the case, it's not really Ramadan here in Pakistan because the weather's improved; it's not so hot anymore.

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                                    Peace Supernaut,

                                    Are you saying we should fast/abstain (from food, sex, und so weiter) in the hottest month of the year instead of a particular month in the lunar calendar which may be a very cool one? If that's the case, it's not really Ramadan here in Pakistan because the weather's improved; it's not so hot anymore.

                                    Unfortunately, as you intuitively concluded, in Pakistan and elsewhere people generally ignore the clear meaning of the word "ramadan". So it is not surprising that sectarians are now fasting a completely random month. The common noun "ramadan" means "scorching" and "shahr" means "full-moon". So 2185 is giving us the marker as the "scorching full-moon" (also known as "red moon" in ancient cultures). This is a well-known universal cosmic phenomenon that occurs near the summer solstice (see my avatar) and that everyone can witness, not some arbitrary month in a manmade calendar. Please see the following article for more details

                                    http//www.free-minds.org/articles/science/timing.htm

                                    Peace,

                                    Ayman

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                                      Supernaut
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                                      Peace Ayman,

                                      I did go through it, though after I posted my question, but thanks anyway. And your article is very cool.

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                                        The word as RSW pointed out means prosporous, full of life, long-living, etc. As with all translations, it would really depend on the context which of the meanings one would use. So it would help if you put it in a sentence.

                                        I hope I have answered your question.

                                        Peace,

                                        Ayman

                                        Salaam Ayman

                                        Thank you for addressing my question, the reason I asked this is becasue you are particular with words and their meaning, when you mentioned the second Khalifa Omar in one of your post, how come you called him Omar when he is long dead and can?t be called ?full of life?. Just as you only associate ramadan with scorching heat and would not accept it as a noun.

                                        My opinion is that we always had a lunar calendar and there is a reason why we are supposed to experience abstention in all seasons in a cycle of 30 years. The Qur?an was first revealed during the hot summer time and that is a clue for the Leilatul Qadr and, I believe, as time went by, the month of fasting was given the name Ramadan as it was given that status.

                                        peace

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                                          Peace Farida,

                                          Thank you for addressing my question, the reason I asked this is becasue you are particular with words and their meaning, when you mentioned the second Khalifa Omar in one of your post, how come you called him Omar when he is long dead and can?t be called ?full of life?. Just as you only associate ramadan with scorching heat and would not accept it as a noun.

                                          You don't seem to know the difference between common nouns and proper names. I accept "ramadan" as a common noun not as a proper name. On the other hand, the proper name Omar is meaningless. As you said, we can be sure that people named Omar aren't more full of life than anyone else and that king Omar is long dead. I am also sure that many people named Omar lived a very short life. So as a proper name, Omar is meaningless and in fact it can be the opposite of what it commonly means. Now if you want to take words in 2185 such as "ramadan", "huda", "miskin" or any word in the passage as proper names which are meaningless and could mean the opposite of what is being said so that "ramadan" can be cold and "huda" can be lost and "miskin" can be rich then be my guest and good luck understanding the universal concepts that the god is communicating.

                                          My opinion is that we always had a lunar calendar and there is a reason why we are supposed to experience abstention in all seasons in a cycle of 30 years. The Qur?an was first revealed during the hot summer time and that is a clue for the Leilatul Qadr and, I believe, as time went by, the month of fasting was given the name Ramadan as it was given that status.

                                          Who gave this name Ramadan after the fact and when did he do it? Do you know the name of that person or who he is?

                                          Also, are you talking about Leila the meaningless name or about the common concept of "night"? If you are talking about the common concept then you should translate it because unlike the proper name it is not meaningless. Same goes for "qadr" (measure) and "ramadan" (scorching).

                                          Peace,

                                          Ayman

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