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    Actually,the only thing that comes to mind is that the spirit would need to learn lessons and could only do so by experience and struggle,ie,evolution.This however would feed into the idea of reincarnation,in that the spirit would move successively through each stage before developing into man.
    Ramadan Mubarak to everyone.

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      The first possibility that springs to my mind is that an alternative to God must exist. After all, that is the purpose of this life. If all or most of the evidence pointed to God existing or God not existing, then the test would be heavily weighted towards one of the answers. A fine balance must be struck.

      Interestingly, from the information out there on this subject, the balance seems to be just about right. Not to mention, trillions of years is nothing for God, so the time aspect is irrelevant.

      So let's say God exists, and makes creation in such a way that God can be found and at the same time can imply there is no God....i.e. strikes a fine balance, leaving the question open to our own free choice, is that not genius?

      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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        And would consequences of the choice be heavan and hell as some religious suggest,in this cruel gamble?

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          i sincerely believe the answers the apparent godlessness in time and space are in the example of the Mandlebrot set, that we live in A divinely created one in both spatial and temporal dimensions. I am disappointed that you all overlooked that possibility

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            i sincerely believe the answers the apparent godlessness in time and space are in the example of the Mandlebrot set, that we live in A divinely created one in both spatial and temporal dimensions. I am disappointed that you all overlooked that possibility

            DOH!

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              are you going to make fun of me, or are you going to tell me why I am wrong?

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                are you going to make fun of me, or are you going to tell me why I am wrong?

                Sorry,to be honest I didnt understand the last post.So you may be right?

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                  And would consequences of the choice be heavan and hell as some religious suggest,in this cruel gamble?

                  You will get what you give.

                  All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                    You will get what you give.

                    This is hardly addressing the point.

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                      if You Go To Google and Research The Mandlebrot Set you Will Understand Why The past And Our sub Cellular Organelles cannot Be Used As Evidence Against A Creator.

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                        if You Go To Google and Research The Mandlebrot Set you Will Understand Why The past And Our sub Cellular Organelles cannot Be Used As Evidence Against A Creator.

                        So,you tell me,what is your conception of God.Is He a personal creator God who intervienes or a life force that in this world at least,develops slowly.
                        It still makes no sense to me.Other than life just is and we are subject to it - hey,that sounds like God!

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                          to Say God Develops Slowly Or That He Cant Intervene Because Of physical Laws Is To Confine God To Time. Because Time Is A Product Of Matter And Matter Is A Creation Of God, You Are Coming To The False Conclusion That God Is Subject To His Creation.

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                            God Is Not natural So You Will Not Find Him Studying natural Sciences. Expand Your Studies To Physics And Mathematics Etc. The Governing Laws Of creation, In Order To Find The Creator.

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                              God Is Not natural So You Will Not Find Him Studying natural Sciences. Expand Your Studies To Physics And Mathematics Etc. The Governing Laws Of creation, In Order To Find The Creator.

                              No you are attributing qualities to a none existant construct in your mind,its so easy to say he is beyond his creation,its like trying to disprove something that is always hidden.

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                                you are intentionally limiting your knowlede because you do not want to believe in God. peace.

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                                  you are intentionally limiting your knowlede because you do not want to believe in God. peace.

                                  Apologies if you feel frustrated,your contributions are gratefully recieved.
                                  It is far from the truth that Iam intentionally limiting my knowledge,you should know better than to make such judgements just because you have a problem.

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                                    im not the one with a problem. Your problem is you can not reconcile God and Creation. Thats why you Started this thread. i suffer from no such confusion.

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                                      im not the one with a problem. Your problem is you can not reconcile God and Creation. Thats why you Started this thread. i suffer from no such confusion.

                                      You have a problem with me not seing things the way you see things-is what I mean,so you have to say something which is a personal comment,ie iam limiting my knowledge,thats all.

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                                        i only told you to broaden your study to fields more appropriate to determine Gods existence. You have refused To do this, you are limiting your knowledge.

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                                          i only told you to broaden your study to fields more appropriate to determine Gods existence. You have refused To do this, you are limiting your knowledge.

                                          Please excuse me,but you are again making assumptions in a patronising manner.You have no idea as to the areas I have studied.So please ristrict your comments to pure subject matter.

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