Sunni scholar unable to answer a question on live TV infront of millions.
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salam. ma malkat aymanakum.
why does everyone try and shove the meaning of this phrase under the carpet. ask yourselves, are you rightly guided?
clearly there is another category of women lawful to men aside from those with whom there is a nikah.
the only plausible reason why this obvious conclusion is being ignored is western pagan brainwashing.
allah is the law.
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Allah created Adam and Eve as two parts of the same whole. There are no such things as 'categories of women', it is an innovation, the product of a inhumane society.
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It's the other way round. The default position should be that those who want to say a thing exists should have the burden of proof. You say two "types" of women exist. Your only 'evidence' is this phrase, 'right hands possess'. I say that's not what it means, and it actually refers to husbands, who otherwise have no place in the Quran. We know husbands are real. I think husbands are far more real than this imaginary category of women who fundies want as their sex slaves.
Incidentally, understanding this to mean husband also takes away the automatic right of men to divorce their wives - 2433 "And if any of your husbands ask for a deed in writing (to divorce), give them such a deed if ye know any good in them yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which Allah has given to you." Which means, if a woman deems her husband to have no good in him, she can refuse to grant him a divorce.
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I think (mulkul yameen) is a kind of marriage where at least one of the couple is unable to have sex. This is the only difference between it and a complete marriage. It's the only marriage where family (of the one who can have sex but is waving their right) is asked for permission (425). This verse is a proof that MMA is neither a slave nor a war captive.
And the MMA is each of them they are both mulku yameen the other.
I hope others scan the word MMA in the qur'aan and see if there's a verse where this understanding does not fit, or another fits better.Maybe its a contractual arrangement like Katb Al Kitab Sunnis do. The official marriage is when they move in together. Like the hadith about Aisha married at 6 but the marriage was actually done years later. The first contractual arrangement could be MMA and then when they move in its Zawaj.
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Peace liquiddharma,
I dont think it means husband as it wouldn't make sense in the verse below as husband is already mentioned. This verse also shows that women can also have <b>ma malakat aymanuhunna</b>
2431 And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and keep covered their private parts, and that they should not reveal their beauty except what is apparent, and let them put forth their shawls over their cleavage. And let them not reveal their beauty except <b>to their husbands</b>, or their fathers, or fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or the sons of their brothers, or the sons of their sisters, or their women, or <b>those committed to them by oath</b>, or the male servants who are without need, or the child who has not yet understood the composition of women. And let them not strike with their feet in a manner that reveals what they are keeping hidden of their beauty. And repent to God, all of you believers, that you may succeed.
Waqul lilmu/minati yaghdudna min absarihinna wayahfathna furoojahunna wala yubdeena zeenatahunna illa ma thahara minha walyadribna bikhumurihinna AAala juyoobihinna wala yubdeena zeenatahunna illa <b>libuAAoolatihinna</b> aw aba-ihinna aw aba-i buAAoolatihinna aw abna-ihinna aw abna-i buAAoolatihinna aw ikhwanihinna aw banee ikhwanihinna aw banee akhawatihinna aw nisa-ihinna aw <b>ma malakat aymanuhunna</b> awi alttabiAAeena ghayri olee al-irbati mina alrrijali awi alttifli allatheena lam yathharoo AAala AAawrati alnnisa-i wala yadribna bi-arjulihinna liyuAAlama ma yukhfeena min zeenatihinna watooboo ila Allahi jameeAAan ayyuha almu/minoona laAAallakum tuflihoona
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The first use of husbands is referring to the original believing woman's husband. The second use, where it says 'right hands possess', is referring to the husbands of 'the women' immediately preceeding.
2431 And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and keep covered their private parts, and that they should not reveal their beauty except what is apparent, and let them put forth their shawls over their cleavage. And let them not reveal their beauty except to their husbands, or their fathers, or fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or the sons of their brothers, or the sons of their sisters, or their women, or the husbands , or the male servants who are without need, or the child who has not yet understood the composition of women. And let them not strike with their feet in a manner that reveals what they are keeping hidden of their beauty. And repent to God, all of you believers, that you may succeed.
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I don't think it is talking about showing breasts and private parts, as the list is just too big for that. It includes too many people you aren't biologically related to - like you husbands father, and husbands sons (not the woman's own, not young children). I think it is just about dressing informally, if you imagine the situation being that you are entertaining guests in your house - these other women's husbands are being accompanied by their wives, and so the situation is not one of a woman being in a room full of unaccompanied men.
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salam liquiddharma. your posts bring into question your beliefs.
witness your religion for members of the forum say, ashaddu anna la illaha il allah, wa ashadu anna muhmmadan abduhu was rasulahu. i witness there is no god except allah, and muhammad is his servant and messenger.
read 2102 then answer this question. from whom did you learn the means to sow discord between a man and his wife?
allah exposes falsehood with the truth.
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Grow up Al Araf, there's a difference between reason and sorcery. And if the best Satan and all his minions can do is bin the headscarf, I'd be very unimpressed. But then we already know, Satan's power reaches far beyond independent thought, he's got millions of Muslims believing Islam is about beating wives, child marriage, and all sorts of authoritarianism and repression.
But faith in Allah protects us against all dark magic, be it real or imagined.
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salam liquiddharma. your posts bring into question your beliefs.
witness your religion for members of the forum say, ashaddu anna la illaha il allah, wa ashadu anna muhmmadan abduhu was rasulahu. i witness there is no god except allah, and muhammad is his servant and messenger.
read 2102 then answer this question. from whom did you learn the means to sow discord between a man and his wife?
allah exposes falsehood with the truth.
Please give evidence from the qur'aan that this is the way to witness(affirm?) one's religion to anyone .
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I haven't gone away anywhere, the image is to humourise your world view. jedi
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Peace Liquiddharma
2431 And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and keep covered their private parts, and that they should not reveal their beauty except what is apparent, and let them put forth their shawls over their cleavage. And let them not reveal their beauty except to their husbands, or their fathers, or fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or the sons of their brothers, or the sons of their sisters, or their women, or those committed to them by oath, or the male servants who are without need, or the child who has not yet understood the composition of women. And let them not strike with their feet in a manner that reveals what they are keeping hidden of their beauty. And repent to God, all of you believers, that you may succeed.
Waqul lilmu/minati yaghdudna min absarihinna wayahfathna furoojahunna wala yubdeena zeenatahunna illa ma thahara minha walyadribna bikhumurihinna AAala juyoobihinna wala yubdeena zeenatahunna illa libuAAoolatihinna aw aba-ihinna aw aba-i buAAoolatihinna aw abna-ihinna aw abna-i buAAoolatihinna aw ikhwanihinna aw banee ikhwanihinna aw banee akhawatihinna aw nisa-ihinna aw ma malakat aymanuhunna awi alttabiAAeena ghayri olee al-irbati mina alrrijali awi alttifli allatheena lam yathharoo AAala AAawrati alnnisa-i wala yadribna bi-arjulihinna liyuAAlama ma yukhfeena min zeenatihinna watooboo ila Allahi jameeAAan ayyuha almu/minoona laAAallakum tuflihoona
It doesn't make sense to use 2 different approaches in the same verse to describe the same thing. Husbands have already been referred to using libuAAoolatihinna...
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Peace Liquiddharma
2431 And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and keep covered their private parts, and that they should not reveal their beauty except what is apparent, and let them put forth their shawls over their cleavage. And let them not reveal their beauty except to their husbands, or their fathers, or fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or the sons of their brothers, or the sons of their sisters, or their women, or those committed to them by oath, or the male servants who are without need, or the child who has not yet understood the composition of women. And let them not strike with their feet in a manner that reveals what they are keeping hidden of their beauty. And repent to God, all of you believers, that you may succeed.
Waqul lilmu/minati yaghdudna min absarihinna wayahfathna furoojahunna wala yubdeena zeenatahunna illa ma thahara minha walyadribna bikhumurihinna AAala juyoobihinna wala yubdeena zeenatahunna illa libuAAoolatihinna aw aba-ihinna aw aba-i buAAoolatihinna aw abna-ihinna aw abna-i buAAoolatihinna aw ikhwanihinna aw banee ikhwanihinna aw banee akhawatihinna aw nisa-ihinna aw ma malakat aymanuhunna awi alttabiAAeena ghayri olee al-irbati mina alrrijali awi alttifli allatheena lam yathharoo AAala AAawrati alnnisa-i wala yadribna bi-arjulihinna liyuAAlama ma yukhfeena min zeenatihinna watooboo ila Allahi jameeAAan ayyuha almu/minoona laAAallakum tuflihoona
It doesn't make sense to use 2 different approaches in the same verse to describe the same thing. Husbands have already been referred to using libuAAoolatihinna...
Thats exactly what I said. MMA can not mean slave or prisoner but a contractual arrangement between 2 parties.
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Marriage is a contractual relationship between two parties. The husbands of the plural women preceeding 'right hands' have not yet been mentioned.