Why Is "Insi" Translated As "Humans"?
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peace jedi
i posted the following endnotes on 428 in another thread, pointing that these two verses are not contradictory consistent with God's assurance that there is no contradictions in the quran. when we think we find contradictions, the reason could be
1 - the translation we are reading is faulty; or
2 - our understanding of the verses is faulty; or
3 - 1 and 2 above.
the endnotes are as follows
004028 God created humans in an excellent design (327; 643; 827; 954), yet we humans may lower ourselves to the lowest level by following the teachings of devil (955). It is interesting to see the passive voice when degeneration of human nature is mentioned. The Quran does not say "we made humans weak," but it says, "humans were made weak." Thus, whenever our weakness, impatience, or pessimism is mentioned the passive voice is used
(428; 2137; 7019). Through this peculiar language, the Best Designer and the Ultimate Creator who created us in best design with freedom of choice, reminds us the negative impact of wrong choices on our excellent design. See 5722-23.peace. ramon O0
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peace,
When you quoted the root entry in Project Root List for Alif-Nun-Siin
http//www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm
http//www.studyquran.co.uk/1_ALIF.htmYou did not quote all of it. You missed out the Lane's Lexicon pages on this root.
It is recommended to study all the entry not part of it before attempting to draw conclusions.
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Peace,
peace jedi
i posted the following endnotes on 428 in another thread, pointing that these two verses are not contradictory consistent with God's assurance that there is no contradictions in the quran. when we think we find contradictions, the reason could be
1 - the translation we are reading is faulty; or
2 - our understanding of the verses is faulty; or
3 - 1 and 2 above.
the endnotes are as follows
004028 God created humans in an excellent design (327; 643; 827; 954), yet we humans may lower ourselves to the lowest level by following the teachings of devil (955). It is interesting to see the passive voice when degeneration of human nature is mentioned. The Quran does not say "we made humans weak," but it says, "humans were made weak." Thus, whenever our weakness, impatience, or pessimism is mentioned the passive voice is used
(428; 2137; 7019). Through this peculiar language, the Best Designer and the Ultimate Creator who created us in best design with freedom of choice, reminds us the negative impact of wrong choices on our excellent design. See 5722-23.peace. ramon O0
We were created by none other than the god, so when the god says we were created weak, it was the god who created us weak.
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Assalaam Alaikum
Allah did NOT create human's 'weak' in any sense of the word.
Allah doth wish to lighten your (difficulties). For man was created Weak (in flesh).
Yureedu Allahu an yukhaffifa AAankum wa khuliqa alinsanu daAAeefan
khuliqa (verb) (fa?il) alinsanu( doer of the action, subject) Genitive Construct
khuli(qa) masculine pronoun , means innate character, inborn disposition, to contrive, invent, devise, fabricate, attribute falsely; Root word Kalq meaning to create, mold, make, originate, shape, form,TO BE MOLDED, SHAPED OR FASHIONED FROM A PATTERN OR MODEL
Hans Wehr Arabic English Dictionary 4th Ed. Page 299 ? 300 (kalaqa)khuli(qa) is passive perfect means
An action performed at some point in the past. That action has continued up to the present moment at which we read this. It is an action that continues past the moment we read it. It is an action, which continues ? ? INFINITELY FOREVER. It is an action that CANNOT BE STOPPED! It is an UNSTOPPABLE, UNALTERABLE action.
Alinsanu(dammah, singular) means human being, man, somebody, one person, people; Root word anisa See Hans Wehr Arabic English Dictionary 4th Ed. Page 38-39 (anisa)
daAAeefan (feminine, indefinite, tanwin-fatah) means weak, feeble, weak minded, dim-witted, deficient, weak-sprited
Hans Wehr Arabic English Dictionary 4th Ed. Page 633 (da?ufa)
Allah states throughout the Quran that Allah is the 'Best of Creators', which implies and denotes that there are OTHER Creators competing with Allah.
The following verses illustrate this human behavior of competing with Allah by influencing Creation....
It is We Who have created you. why will you not witness the Truth?
Do you then see?- The (human Seed) that you throw out,-Afaraaytum ma tumnoona
Afaraaytum meaning to split, to do something unheard of, do an unprecedented thing
Tumnoona meaning emission, ejaculation of sperm;Root word Mana to emit ejaculate, to practice masturbation, to be afflicted, to suffer, to practice Onanism
Hans Wehr Arabic English Dictionary 4th Ed. Page 1088 (mana)Gen 389 And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.
Hebrew 'Ownan {o-nawn'} root word 'aven {aw-ven'} from an unused root perhaps meaning properly, to pant (hence, to exert oneself, usually in vain, 1) trouble, wickedness, sorrow , a) trouble, sorrow, b) idolatry, c) trouble of iniquity, wickedness
Arrogant humans are attempting to 're create' other humans by doing things that are unheard of and misleading to other humans
Is it you who create it, or are We the Creators?
Aantum takhluqoonahu am nahnu alkhaliqoona
Allah is also addressing those humans who attempt to redefine the environment.....
See you the seed that you sow in the ground?
Is it you that cause it to grow, or are We the Cause?See you the water which you drink?
Do you bring it down (in rain) from the cloud or do We?See you the Fire which you kindle?
Is it you who grow the tree which feeds the fire, or do We grow it? -
Peace be upon you all,
"insaan" and "jinn" are opposite polarities of the same thing. "al insaan" refers to the matter part of being, "al jinn" refers to the energy part of being. Energy and matter are opposite polarities of the same thing. One part is visible, the other is hidden(smokeless fire=energy).
428 God wants to make easy for you; and mankind was created weak.
954 We have created mankind in the best form.
(954)
LiteralWe had (E) created the human/mankind in best chronometry/cartography (methods of calculating maps and charts)/straightness (formation).
Free_MindsWe have created mankind in the best form.
KhalifaWe created man in the best design.
Yusuf_AliWe have indeed created man in the best of moulds,
ShakirCertainly We created man in the best make.
PickthalSurely We created man of the best stature
ArberryWe indeed created Man in the fairest stature
George_SaleVerily We created man of a most excellent fabric;
Hilali_KhanVerily, We created man of the best stature (mould),
MalikWe have indeed created man in the best stature;
Maulana_AliCertainly We created man in the best make.
QXPWe have created the human being in the best design. (With the potential to grow his 'Self'.
SarwarWe have created the human being in the best form
Le_CoranNous avons certes cr?? l'homme dans la forme la plus parfaite.This teaching is explaining to us that the human vessel was created with the best design, but initialy weak. Our superior design allows for us to climb to our superior potential, our divinity, but most of us want to remain only human. Just like a small child has the potential to be nobel prize winner for physics, you cant give a child physics problems to solve, you must grow the child...the child must mature/ripen. So must the human grow into her divine nature. The vessel is designed for its potential just like the childs brain is capable of being a math wizard, but initially it is "weak".
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The entity doing the 'creating' in Sura Nisa 428 is majhool...unknown its NOT Allah,swt
Khuliqa al insanu....Insanu is the 'doer' of the verb khuliqa NOT Allah its in the Genitive Insan OWNS the Verb..and is applying the use of the verb
khalaqa/khuliqa means to take something from a pattern....Allah is not only Al Khaliq / The Creator but Al Bari / The Originator
No where in the Quran does Allah state 'I am the Best of Originators'....because there are none....
He Who created the seven heavens one above another. No want of proportion wilt you see in the Creation of (Allah) Most Gracious. So turn thy vision again. DO YOU SEE ANY FLAW?
Allathee khalaqa sabAAa samawatin tibaqan ma tara fee khalqi alrrahmani min tafawutin fairjiAAi albasara hal tara min futoorin
? (Allah) Most Gracious!
? It is He who has taught AL-QURAN.
? He has created man.
? He taught him the intelligent and distinct speech.? AAallamahu albayana
albayana to explain, expound, elucidate, examine, critically scrutinize, intelligible
Hans Wehr Arabic English Dictionary 4th Ed. Page 105-106 (bana) -
The entity doing the 'creating' in Sura Nisa 428 is majhool...unknown its NOT Allah,swt
Khuliqa al insanu....Insanu is the 'doer' of the verb khuliqa NOT Allah its in the Genitive Insan OWNS the Verb..and is applying the use of the verb
What is in the Genetive?
Insan is not the "doer". ( ) is not the doer, but the substitute of the doer. The doer is ( )
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What is in the Genetive?
Insan is not the "doer". ( ) is not the doer, but the substitute of the doer. The doer is ( )
You are quite possibly correct...it may NOT be in the Genitive form.
The 'doer' is majhool....unknown....
Yet the Definite Noun 'Al Insanu' owns the verb and is 'applying' the verb Khuliqa to the subject/object of the ayah (Al Insan)
If you wish to refer to 'Al Insanu" as the 'substitute doer', so be it.
The point and focus of this ayah is that humans develop negative perceptions and lack emotional intelligence through their own efforts and influences.
Allah,swt is NOT creating humans 'weak' other humans are.
Whatever good, (O man!) happens to you, is from Allah; BUT WHATEVER EVIL HAPPENS TO YOU, IS FROM THY (OWN) SOUL. and We have sent you as an Messenger to (instruct) mankind. And enough is Allah for a witness.
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Why is "weak" taken as defective? Aren't we weak in front of the tiny bacteria and virus? Aren't we weak in front of natural phenomenons? Most importantly, aren't we weak towards our own desires and egos? These desires and egos are not always bad. They are essential for our survival, but they have to be controlled in order not to interfer with the well survival of other humans and oue environment. And this is where god is helping us to be more effective, less destructive.
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Assalaam Alaikum
Allah,swt did NOT create humans weak again in any sense of the word in Sura Nisa 428. If we consider the previous ayahs, Allah is referring to our psychological 'predisposition' to respond to our 'desires' and the influences of others. (instead of Allah)
Allah wishes to make clear to you and to SHOW YOU THE SUNNA OF THOSE BEFORE YOU; and (He wishes to) turn to you (In Mercy). And Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.
Yureedu Allahu liyubayyina lakum wayahdiyakum SUNANA allatheena min qablikum wayatooba AAalaykum waAllahu AAaleemun hakeemun
Allah will is to Turn to you, but the WISH OF THOSE WHO FOLLOW THEIR LUSTS IS THAT YOU SHOULD TURN AWAY (from Him),- far, far away.
WaAllahu yureedu an yatooba AAalaykum wayureedu allatheena yattabiAAoona alshshahawati an tameeloo maylan AAatheeman
Khuliqa is also a passive perfect verb which denotes internal (psychological & spiritual) reference. Thus the following meanings would be appropriate and in context with Sura Nisa 428
innate character, inborn disposition, psychological & spiritual pattern
Allah,swt gives the Believer a clear understanding of the relevance of the word 'daaeefa' in the 'hadith' of Shu'aib,as.
? They said ?O? Shoaib!? ?Does your salah/Prayer orders you that we give up what our ancestors served or what we do with our wealth as we will. Surely you are tolerant, right-minded person?.
Shu'aib's people accepted his advice and warnings and even suggested he was 'tolerant and right-minded man'.
In the ayahs to following 11.87, Shu'aib conveys to his people his conviction, compassion and his faith in Allah's guidance.
Then.... now they dont understand Shu'aib,as and he is now considered 'weak minded, senseless and ignorant'
They said. "O Shu'aib! much of what you say we do not understand! In fact among us we see that you are weak minded / senseless / wainna lanaraka feena daAAeefan! Were it not for thy family, we should certainly have stoned you! for you have among us no great position!"
Qaloo ya shuAAaybu ma nafqahu katheeran mimma taqoolu wainna lanaraka feena daAAeefan walawla rahtuka larajamnaka wama anta AAalayna biAAazeezin
"And O my people! Do whatever you can. I will do (my part). Soon will you know who it is on whom descends the penalty of ignominy; and who is a liar! and watch you! for I too am watching with you!"
Note
daAAeefan (feminine, indefinite, tanwin-fatah) means weak, feeble, weak minded, dim-witted, deficient, weak-spirited Hans Wehr Arabic English Dictionary 4th Ed. Page 633 (da?ufa) (See Sura's Nisa 428 & Hud 11.91)
