Number of wives?
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No one is forcing those women to get married. If they do not think it is worth it, they wouldn't have gotten married in the first place. Plus, the big number of women left unmarried in a monogamous world, will be more frustrated because they will have no sexual satisfaction at all, except through unlawful means.
Yeah, greedy men taking care of multiple women, providing them with family and children! Those women would have been better off prostituting themselves, right? Isn't that what you want?
Nop you are absolutely on a wrong side they are not marrying them out of mercy are to help them and you know that very well and still trying to cover their wrongs.
a few months back a 90 years old Saudi millioner paid a poor Egyptian family to marry their 16 years young daughter but the court took action against him and stopped that marriage.
Why he never tried to find a widow are divorce women why he need a virgin?
Fahad tell me will you marry a 90 years old women. hmm
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Nop you are absolutely on a wrong side they are not marrying them out of mercy are to help them and you know that very well and still trying to cover their wrongs.
a few months back a 90 years old Saudi millioner paid a poor Egyptian family to marry their 16 years young daughter but the court took action against him and stopped that marriage.
Why he never tried to find a widow are divorce women why he need a virgin?
Fahad tell me will you marry a 90 years old women. hmm
peacePeace,
But this is also a special case of the rich people, they always think they can get what they want because they have money )
Maria
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No one is forcing those women to get married. If they do not think it is worth it, they wouldn't have gotten married in the first place. Plus, the big number of women left unmarried in a monogamous world, will be more frustrated because they will have no sexual satisfaction at all, except through unlawful means.
Yeah, greedy men taking care of multiple women, providing them with family and children! Those women would have been better off prostituting themselves, right? Isn't that what you want?
Nop you are absolutely on a wrong side
Am I wrong that the big number of women left unmarried in a monogamous world will be more frustrated because they will have no sexual satisfaction at all, except through unlawful means?
Am I wrong that every women has a right to have a husband and children?
Tell me.
they are not marrying them out of mercy are to help them
Isn't it merciless to leave women unmarried? Doesn't it help a woman to be married instead of staying unmarried and unfulfilled?
and you know that very well and still trying to cover their wrongs.
WHAT EXACTLY do you think is wrong in polygyny? How many women will be left unmarried in a monogamous society? Wouldn't THAT be wrong?
a few months back a 90 years old Saudi millioner paid a poor Egyptian family to marry their 16 years young daughter but the court took action against him and stopped that marriage.
I was talking about marriage, not about rape.
Why he never tried to find a widow are divorce women why he need a virgin?
Whats wrong with a virgin?
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Nop you are absolutely on a wrong side
Am I wrong that the big number of women left unmarried in a monogamous world will be more frustrated because they will have no sexual satisfaction at all, except through unlawful means?
Am I wrong that every women has a right to have a husband and children?
Tell me.
Isn't it merciless to leave women unmarried? Doesn't it help a woman to be married instead of staying unmarried and unfulfilled?
WHAT EXACTLY do you think is wrong in polygyny? How many women will be left unmarried in a monogamous society? Wouldn't THAT be wrong?
I was talking about marriage, not about rape.
Whats wrong with a virgin?
Yes - you're wrong, because the number of men and women in the world between the ages of 15-50 are roughly even. The excess of women is only above the age of 70 (above the male life expectancy.
So this idea of an excess of women who need polygamy to find a husband is complete fantasy. In fact, in many countries like China and Saudi Arabia, there is a big excess of men. So your arguement needs to be reversed.
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Peace,
But this is also a special case of the rich people, they always think they can get what they want because they have money )
Maria
Peace Maria & Fahad
NO this is not a special case almost all those men who have a few dirham?s are rupees will try to find a teenage and buy her, they are not marrying them to help them. Why don?t they go for those widows who needs help, the truth is that they are doing it to satisfy their lust and to abuse God hukm.
) I remembered in India there is tribe i forget the name, they have a tradition the women are the head of family and bread winner they marry 4 men and the men stay at home and do the cooking cleaning etc.
So is that from God are that is their culture. hmm
peace
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Shortage of men is not a natural occurence. When it happens is due to wars fought on the battleground or when they emigrate and leave women behind, which is a localised phenomenon and is accompanied by excess men in the place where they go. Wars today kill at least as many civilians as they do military, so really the number should even out with a slight excess of males in the earlier years and an excess of women in old age.
As it happens and Liq... points our in fact with selective abortions and male preference the fact is that a big problem is cooking of excess men who will not be able to find a wife because there will not be enough women around. The best possibility of poligamy for them is to make sure they do reach a very old age and keep waiting for other males to die and marry their old widows.
Salaam
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Are you sugesting poligamy for women hmm
;DNo. I am not suggesting anything at all and I do not think any woman deserves being punished with extra husbands. In most cases one is punishment enough. And if in fact she has got that most precious and rare wonder of a good husband, most definitely she won't want to dilute it adding anything less than that, nor deprive other women of the same possibility if she happened to come across more than one of that rare species.
No, I am not a cruel person nor a women hater, therefore I would never advocate more than one husband.
That notwithstanding I am really worried about what those extra men may come up with deprived of the hope of having a woman. May be the popularity of homosexuality has been a providential tendency that might soothen the excess men problem.
And, brother Afridi, I appreciate your posts, but please do not look so wary of me or my thoughts. I am a very sweet person and rather cautious, and also straightforward, if I want to suggest something I go and suggest it straight out not leave it hanging, except for irony, but that can be readily appreciated, I hope.
Salaam
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No. I am not suggesting anything at all and I do not think any woman deserves being punished with extra husbands. In most cases one is punishment enough. And if in fact she has got that most precious and rare wonder of a good husband, most definitely she won't want to dilute it adding anything less than that, nor deprive other women of the same possibility if she happened to come across more than one of that rare species.
No, I am not a cruel person nor a women hater, therefore I would never advocate more than one husband.
That notwithstanding I am really worried about what those extra men may come up with deprived of the hope of having a woman. May be the popularity of homosexuality has been a providential tendency that might soothen the excess men problem.
And, brother Afridi, I appreciate your posts, but please do not look so wary of me or my thoughts. I am a very sweet person and rather cautious, and also straightforward, if I want to suggest something I go and suggest it straight out not leave it hanging, except for irony, but that can be readily appreciated, I hope.
Salaam
;D please don?t take it that way it?s my habit joking with everyone it was only a joke I don?t like polygamy at all if the purpose is helping someone then ok otherwise no.
Any way in case of women shortage we can send those exes men to the above said Indian tribe.
I hope you will agree with me on this !peace
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;D please don?t take it that way it?s my habit joking with everyone it was only a joke I don?t like polygamy at all if the purpose is helping someone then ok otherwise no.
Any way in case of women shortage we can send those exes men to the above said Indian tribe.
I hope you will agree with me on this !peace
http//www.maharashtra.gov.in/pdf/gazeetter_reprint/Poona-I/appendix_c.html#.
http//books.google.com.pk/books?id=ix4T-qyrhWAC&pg=PA63&lpg=PA63&dq=polyandry+in+indian+tribe&source=bl&ots=TfIX1OWJt-&sig=W7PD6-P5wLUCCbY0OZm9SR4rFkU&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPA64,M1 -
Shortage of men is not a natural occurence. When it happens is due to wars fought on the battleground or when they emigrate and leave women behind, which is a localised phenomenon and is accompanied by excess men in the place where they go. Wars today kill at least as many civilians as they do military, so really the number should even out with a slight excess of males in the earlier years and an excess of women in old age.
As it happens and Liq... points our in fact with selective abortions and male preference the fact is that a big problem is cooking of excess men who will not be able to find a wife because there will not be enough women around. The best possibility of poligamy for them is to make sure they do reach a very old age and keep waiting for other males to die and marry their old widows.
Salaam
Why can't women do the same. Do you think it is more harmful for a woman to wait for a man to be available than for a man to wait for a woman?
Anyway, there is a much simpler solution to the war-sex imbalance. Let women be soldiers as well, so men and women die in equal numbers.
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Why can't women do the same. Do you think it is more harmful for a woman to wait for a man to be available than for a man to wait for a woman?
Anyway, there is a much simpler solution to the war-sex imbalance. Let women be soldiers as well, so men and women die in equal numbers.
Either you didn't get what I meant or I am not getting what you mean.
I was meaning that till the later on in life there is not a woman for every man so if a man wants to have more than one wife he will have to wait till some men die later on in life and leave widows free to marry.
And the soldier prt precisely what I was saying is that today's wars kill as many women as men because they mainly kill civilians. So no statistical correction from wars.
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http//www.maharashtra.gov.in/pdf/gazeetter_reprint/Poona-I/appendix_c.html#.
http//books.google.com.pk/books?id=ix4T-qyrhWAC&pg=PA63&lpg=PA63&dq=polyandry+in+indian+tribe&source=bl&ots=TfIX1OWJt-&sig=W7PD6-P5wLUCCbY0OZm9SR4rFkU&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPA64,M1Well, I would have to check those excesses first to see how good looking they are, because, who knows, we might have some use for them in a tribe closer to home.
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You people are unable to defend any thing you say against polygyny. You avoid answering simple questions. If you can't defend the comments you make, then you can't be honest in insisting on your stance. From now on, I am going to press you for answers.
But this is also a special case of the rich people, they always think they can get what they want because they have money )
NO this is not a special case almost all those men who have a few dirham?s are rupees will try to find a teenage and buy her,
When a man enters into nikah with a woman, he has to pay her ajr/wage. What is wrong with that?! In case you missed it, women are sought with one's MAAL/money/wealth(4/24).
they are not marrying them to help them. Why don?t they go for those widows who needs help,
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Is that all a man marries a woman for? To "help" her?
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Is it forbidden for a man to marry a woman for reasons other than "helping" her?
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Will leaving her unmarried help her?
the truth is that they are doing it to satisfy their lust and to abuse God hukm.
How is satisfying one's lust an abuse of God's hukm?
And I think you avoided answering these questions. So I am re-posting them for you to answer.
No one is forcing those women to get married. If they do not think it is worth it, they wouldn't have gotten married in the first place. Plus, the big number of women left unmarried in a monogamous world, will be more frustrated because they will have no sexual satisfaction at all, except through unlawful means.
Yeah, greedy men taking care of multiple women, providing them with family and children! Those women would have been better off prostituting themselves, right? Isn't that what you want?
Nop you are absolutely on a wrong side
Am I wrong that the big number of women left unmarried in a monogamous world will be more frustrated because they will have no sexual satisfaction at all, except through unlawful means?
Am I wrong that every women has a right to have a husband and children?
Tell me.
they are not marrying them out of mercy are to help them
Isn't it merciless to leave women unmarried? Doesn't it help a woman to be married instead of staying unmarried and unfulfilled?
and you know that very well and still trying to cover their wrongs.
WHAT EXACTLY do you think is wrong in polygyny? How many women will be left unmarried in a monogamous society? Wouldn't THAT be wrong?
a few months back a 90 years old Saudi millioner paid a poor Egyptian family to marry their 16 years young daughter but the court took action against him and stopped that marriage.
I was talking about marriage, not about rape.
Why he never tried to find a widow are divorce women why he need a virgin?
Whats wrong with a virgin?
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You people are unable to defend any thing you say against polygyny. You avoid answering simple questions. If you can't defend the comments you make, then you can't be honest in insisting on your stance. From now on, I am going to press you for answers.
NO this is not a special case almost all those men who have a few dirham?s are rupees will try to find a teenage and buy her,
When a man enters into nikah with a woman, he has to pay her ajr/wage. What is wrong with that?! In case you missed it, women are sought with one's MAAL/money/wealth(4/24).
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Is that all a man marries a woman for? To "help" her?
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Is it forbidden for a man to marry a woman for reasons other than "helping" her?
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Will leaving her unmarried help her?
How is satisfying one's lust an abuse of God's hukm?
And I think you avoided answering these questions. So I am re-posting them for you to answer.
Nop you are absolutely on a wrong side
Am I wrong that the big number of women left unmarried in a monogamous world will be more frustrated because they will have no sexual satisfaction at all, except through unlawful means?
Am I wrong that every women has a right to have a husband and children?
Tell me.
Isn't it merciless to leave women unmarried? Doesn't it help a woman to be married instead of staying unmarried and unfulfilled?
WHAT EXACTLY do you think is wrong in polygyny? How many women will be left unmarried in a monogamous society? Wouldn't THAT be wrong?
I was talking about marriage, not about rape.
Whats wrong with a virgin?
??? I believe you are living on mars or some other planet, so you don?t know these girls are not married forcefully or against their well hypno i don?t have much time to discuss this matter in detail but i will give you a small advice please do some research go and ask those girls are women '(
Sorry for your ignorance elektro
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Peace,
If all women really were free to choose which husband she wanted to get married to this wouldn't been an issue for argues.
I mean which sweet 16 girl would ever marry an 70 year old Hugh Hefner look alike, who only would think of sex?
The answer is NO.
Therefore i don't believe in marriage without love connected to it, so called arranged marriage is doomed to fail after a time.
Maria
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Yes - you're wrong, because the number of men and women in the world between the ages of 15-50 are roughly even. The excess of women is only above the age of 70 (above the male life expectancy.
I am not sure I understand why you think I am wrong. I asked
Am I wrong that the big number of women left unmarried in a monogamous world will be more frustrated because they will have no sexual satisfaction at all, except through unlawful means?
You say yes I am wrong that the women left unmarried will be more frustrated because they will have no sexual satisfaction at all, except through unlawful means.
I asked
Am I wrong that every women has a right to have a husband and children?
You say yes I am wrong that every women has a right to have a husband and children.
Does your answer make any sense to yourself? Did you read my questions before answering? If not, have you read them now? If so, could you please answer them again? Thanks.
The number of men and women in the world has nothing to do with my questions nor with the issue of polygyny.
So this idea of an excess of women who need polygamy to find a husband is complete fantasy. In fact, in many countries like China and Saudi Arabia, there is a big excess of men. So your arguement needs to be reversed.
Can you please point out where I used the argument of the excess of women. Thanks.
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Afridi, again, you are avoiding my questions.
??? I believe you are living on mars or some other planet, so you don?t know these girls are not married forcefully or against their well hypno
I already told you that I am not talking about the girls/women who are forced. I am talking about those who give their consent. I quote
a few months back a 90 years old Saudi millioner paid a poor Egyptian family to marry their 16 years young daughter but the court took action against him and stopped that marriage.
I was talking about marriage, not about rape.
What now?
i don?t have much time to discuss this matter in detail but i will give you a small advice please do some research go and ask those girls are women '(
You don't have time? Does it means you won't be replying in this thread anymore?
Or will you reply to others in the thread but not answer my questions?
You do not need to discuss in great detail as my questions are simple and straightforward.
Sorry for your ignorance elektro
Be sorry for being dishonest to yourself. If you could think up of any answers, you wouldn't be having a time problem. You only had to type your thoughts/answers. You have time to discuss, you just don't have the answers.