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    Ahmad_Bilal
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    Peace WayFinder,

    I would like you to ask yourself this question... DO YOU THINK THERE ARE COINCIDENCE IN THE QURAN? For example, regarding the use of words, the placement of these words as well as the number these words has been used all over the Quran...

    The word WAHDAHOO has been used 6 times exactly all over the Quran in the following verses... 770/1746/3945/4012/4084/604

    I agree with you on one issue - I don't believe there are any coincidences in GOD's message. In the passages you posted, it is plainly clear of the position of the word "wahdahu" throughout the text, and it is always attached to GOD Himself, never to anything else. The EXCEPTION is 1746. In this verse, there is a clear distinguishment of the words, and if GOD wanted to use another reference to "GOD ALONE", it would've been written just like the other instances. But instead, it says "alqurani wahdahu", when it could say "rabbaka wahdahu" or "allahu wahdahu". The question is DO YOU THINK THIS IS A COINCIDENCE?

    Peace,

    Ahmad

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      Muslimtruthrevealed
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      rotfl

      Peace;
      I posted the verse that supports my opinion; it is a very well-established verse.
      Moreover, I do not see any story about a Female Messanger or Prophet in Quran; the Frequancy of Male Prophet (or Messanger) Vs Female is 100% to 0%. Moreover, due to the hardship (physically and psychologically) that Messangers face, and due to God Mercy, Females were not choosen to perform such duties. If you think otherwise, please provide well-established verses that are stronger in meaning than 6-9.

      Salam

      Maryam,as was inspired by Jibriil,as revealing the Kalam of Allah

      Saba / Sheba was given the Kitab from Sulaiman,as and was blessed by Allah,swt with TWO Gardens

      Anyone who conveys the ayahs of Allah is a Messenger....

      These are the Signs of Allah. we rehearse them to you in truth. verily YOU ARE ONE OF THE MESSENGERS.

      By the Qur'an, full of Wisdom,-
      You are indeed one of the Messengers, / Innaka lamina almursaleena

      Innaka (2nd person, singular pronoun &#1574 means YOU

      Read Your Quran

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        SwedenMajidah
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        Maryam,as was inspired by Jibriil,as revealing the Kalam of Allah

        Saba / Sheba was given the Kitab from Sulaiman,as and was blessed by Allah,swt with TWO Gardens

        Anyone who conveys the ayahs of Allah is a Messenger....

        These are the Signs of Allah. we rehearse them to you in truth. verily YOU ARE ONE OF THE MESSENGERS.

        By the Qur'an, full of Wisdom,-
        You are indeed one of the Messengers, / Innaka lamina almursaleena

        Innaka (2nd person, singular pronoun &#1574 means YOU

        Read Your Quran

        Peace,

        I agree with you and why would God only prefer male messengers?
        If He says that both male and females are equals then it would be equal in who can be a messenger also.

        And Maryam and Queen of Sheba was indeed women )

        Maria

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          Bahman
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          First and foremost, I would like you to ask yourself this question... DO YOU THINK THERE ARE COINCIDENCE IN THE QURAN? For example, regarding the use of words, the placement of these words as well as the number these words has been used all over the Quran...
          My personal answer to this question... I firmly believe that there is NO SUCH COINCIDENCE in the Quran and everything presented in it, in whichever way, has a purpose... and meaningS....

          I agree with you and nothing is coincidence , even presence of all members and those read these posts . Each of us come from different back ground and environment and destined to be here and even writing these letters pro or against creation is not coincidence.
          I am in middle of creating a youtube clip for following
          Now we have a book that do not need to know Arabic or even read the context to accept the truth.
          The proof of book before even reading it just by using number of chapters, verses and other numerical properties. There IS NO EXCUSE FOR THOSE THAT SAY IT IS MATHEMATIC AND THEY CAN NOT UNDERSTAND IT. Simple as much that a prime school student can understand it. But no human can author such book.
          Now we go inside book we witness all those numbers designated by special design and is not coincidence.
          Look at your list of verses.
          Only 5 of them are same even for none Arabic can see it
          5 times
          And 6th time is
          We do not see same word for but

          Now code 19 is declaring that the 5 times has same meaning when we add
          7+70+39+45+40+12+40+84+60+4=361=19 x19
          adding single digits(casting out) of these numbers come to= 68 ( chapter 68 133 NUN ) and 6+8=7 pairs 14 initials in 14 sets a
          remember that those verses are located in different places but merge into other verses as complete message. Imagine we have a jig saw puzzle with 6346 pieces locked into each other presenting a very nice image. No piece can be relocated ,add or deduct. Now imagine that each of these pieces have a number in back (chapter and verse number) and no we have only 5 pieces among 6346 which their total is 19 x19 = 361=3+6+1= 1+0=1

          Do you not realize that GOD knows everything in the heavens and everything on earth? No three people can conspire secretly without Him being their fourth, nor five without Him being the sixth, nor less than that, nor more, without Him being there with them wherever they may be. Then, on the Day of Resurrection, He will inform them of everything they had done. GOD is fully aware of all things. 587

          Six is authored in GR ?Quran? only 7 times specifically only for creation of six days (stages)of creation of 7 Universes

          http//www.submission.org/quran/webqt.php?&indata=six+days

          8010604005110140

          16 digits
          is multiple of 19

          19 x6=114 chapters

          754,103,117,2559,324, 5038, 574
          7+54+10+3+11+7+25+59+32+4+50+38+57+4
          Total 19 x19 =361 =1
          Same total for God Alone.
          Casting out those numbers =19
          Ot is amazing that same number is sealing 2 ends of these numbers 4-5-7 which casting out of them is 7
          7 x19 =133 NUN
          and more GW soon will be published.
          Do you think ALL THOSE ARE COINCIDENCE and THIS ONE is Designed ?
          Peace.

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            Muslimtruthrevealed
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            Peace,

            I agree with you and why would God only prefer male messengers?
            If He says that both male and females are equals then it would be equal in who can be a messenger also.

            And Maryam and Queen of Sheba was indeed women

            Maria

            I dont notice in the Quran that Allah prefers males. Is actually the other way around, Allah regards Females as special creation. Sura Nisa makes that clear in the first ayah!

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              Maryam,as was inspired by Jibriil,as revealing the Kalam of Allah

              Saba / Sheba was given the Kitab from Sulaiman,as and was blessed by Allah,swt with TWO Gardens

              Anyone who conveys the ayahs of Allah is a Messenger....

              These are the Signs of Allah. we rehearse them to you in truth. verily YOU ARE ONE OF THE MESSENGERS.

              By the Qur'an, full of Wisdom,-
              You are indeed one of the Messengers, / Innaka lamina almursaleena

              Innaka (2nd person, singular pronoun ) means YOU

              Read Your Quran

              Peace
              Non of the females you mentioned above were given Messages from God (Book) to deliver to here people.

              Any body who convay God's Messages (existed ones) to the People are considered "Shohadaa" .

              Please note the different ranks of the Choosen People (4-69)

              (&#65279

              Females, according to God, were never given a Book, as Moses, Abraham, Jesus, and Mohamed. And the reason is, as I stated before, due to the difficulties of such a mission.
              If a Female choose to confront and deliver God's Words (exited books), then She will be rewarded by God; can you call her a Messanger of God because she is delivering God's Message? I do not know;
              but as I said before, in a different thread, We can not disobey God's Messangers, and therefore, People will follow Messangers of God without questioning. And for this reason, I will not call them the messangers of God.

              Peace

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                farida
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                If a Female choose to confront and deliver God's Words (exited books), then She will be rewarded by God; can you call her a Messanger of God because she is delivering God's Message? I do not know;
                but as I said before, in a different thread, We can not disobey God's Messangers, and therefore, People will follow Messangers of God without questioning. And for this reason, I will not call them the messangers of God.

                Peace

                Salaam Belalhammad,

                My personal view is that if it's the men as "alinsanu" were given the job of confronting and delivering God's word which means that its just men who would be questioned why they failded to do the duty entrusted to them, so men should not boast about it but think carefully what they have agreed
                3372 We did indeed offer the Trust to the Heavens and the Earth and the MOUNTAINs; but they refused to undertake it, being afraid thereof but man undertook it;- He was indeed unjust and foolish;-

                peace

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                  Salaam Belalhammad,

                  My personal view is that its men as "alinsanu" were given the job of confronting and delivering God's word which means that its just men who would be questioned why they failded to do the duty entrusted to them, so men should not boast about it but think carefully what they have agreed
                  3372 We did indeed offer the Trust to the Heavens and the Earth and the MOUNTAINs; but they refused to undertake it, being afraid thereof but man undertook it;- He was indeed unjust and foolish;-
                  peace

                  Salam Farida

                  Fear in Men is commont; even prophets were affraied

                  (&#65279 (&#65279
                  They (Moses and Aaron) said "Our Lord! we fear lest He hasten with insolence against us, or lest he transgress all bounds." (45) He said "Fear not for I am with you I hear and see (everything). (20-46)

                  Fear is what God test us with
                  (&#65279
                  Be sure We shall test you with something of fear and hunger, some loss in goods, lives and the fruits (of your toil), but give glad tidings to those who patiently persevere. (2-155)

                  God Knows that believers can experiance Fear

                  (&#65279
                  Allah has promised, to those among you who believe and work righteous deeds, that He will of a surety, grant them in the land, inheritance (of power), as He granted it to those before them; that He will establish in authority their religion the one which He has chosen for them; and that He will change (their state), after the fear in which they (lived), to one of security and peace `They will worship Me (alone) and not associate aught with Me.' If any do reject faith after this, they are rebellious and wicked. (24-55)

                  I agree with you that Male believers should confront the wrong teachings of religions, but in the same time, they can experiace fear when doing so.
                  Peace

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                    farida
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                    Salam Farida

                    I agree with you that Male believers should confront the wrong teachings of religions, but in the same time, they can experiace fear when doing so.
                    Peace

                    Salaam Belalhammad
                    The messenger delivered their message fearlessly, honestly and sincerely but the modern Muslim men have no idea what is that trust. I often I say to many men who boast about the authority given to them that it is not the authority but huge responsibility they have. hmm

                    peace

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                      belH
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                      Salaam Belalhammad
                      The messenger delivered their message fearlessly, honestly and sincerely but the modern Muslim men have no idea what is that trust. I often I say to many men who boast about the authority given to them that it is not the authority but huge responsibility they have. hmm

                      peace

                      First, prophets delievered the Message while, some of them, experiancing Fear. I agree with you that Men should know that they have a huge responsibility (more than Women, children) in front of God.

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                        farida
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                        First, prophets delievered the Message while, some of them, experiancing Fear. I agree with you that Men should know that they have a huge responsibility (more than Women, children) in front of God.

                        Salaam Belalhammad,
                        Which Muslim men are you talking about? Do you really see many who are men enough or Muslim enough to fall in this category?
                        Just five persons contributed to the thread about the plight of a Muslim woman unjustly held in US prison,
                        It does not matter if the woman is a sunni or not; she is a Muslim and it is the duty of Rajal/foot of authority (men) to do something for her but never mind about doing something, even on the thread below not much interest was generated by the ones who consider themselves "qawm" of women.
                        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9596881.45
                        Whereas last week Edip was arrested and many swiftly reacted to that news even though he is just a political prisoner and has in no way suffered like Dr Aafia Siddiqui. This shows the sad state of the s.c. "qawwamoon". '(
                        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9597353.0
                        peace

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                          Muslimtruthrevealed
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                          Peace
                          Non of the females you mentioned above were given Messages from God (Book) to deliver to here people.

                          Any body who convay God's Messages (existed ones) to the People are considered "Shohadaa" .

                          Please note the different ranks of the Choosen People (4-69)

                          (&#65279

                          Females, according to God, were never given a Book, as Moses, Abraham, Jesus, and Mohamed. And the reason is, as I stated before, due to the difficulties of such a mission.
                          If a Female choose to confront and deliver God's Words (exited books), then She will be rewarded by God; can you call her a Messanger of God because she is delivering God's Message? I do not know;
                          but as I said before, in a different thread, We can not disobey God's Messangers, and therefore, People will follow Messangers of God without questioning. And for this reason, I will not call them the messangers of God.

                          Peace

                          Assalaam Alaikum

                          The Quran is NOT a 'history' or philosophy book....

                          Its admonition and guidance for all humanity.....

                          Your patriarchal interpretation of the Quran is irrelevant.

                          Maryam, as was given the kalam of Allah and Allah states her 'model' is an 'example' for all humanity.

                          Secondly, Saba / Sheba was given the kitab from Sulaiman,as and conveyed that guidance to her people, and as such Allah blessed them.

                          Allah chooses messengers from angels and from human beings / an-nasi for Allah is He Who hears and sees (all things).

                          Read Your Quran!!!

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                            belH
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                            Assalaam Alaikum

                            The Quran is NOT a 'history' or philosophy book....

                            Its admonition and guidance for all humanity.....

                            Your patriarchal interpretation of the Quran is irrelevant.

                            Maryam, as was given the kalam of Allah and Allah states her 'model' is an 'example' for all humanity.

                            Mariam were given The word of Allah--Jesus--and not the Bible

                            Secondly, Saba / Sheba was given the kitab from Sulaiman,as and conveyed that guidance to her people, and as such Allah blessed them.

                            Sheba was a powerful Queen and were given the Torah of Moses to spread between Here People. Two things to pay attention to a)she was the QUEEN, b) she did not recieve a book from God.

                            Allah chooses messengers from angels and from human beings / an-nasi for Allah is He Who hears and sees (all things).

                            True

                            Read Your Quran!!!

                            I will.

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                              Salaam Belalhammad,
                              Which Muslim men are you talking about? Do you really see many who are men enough or Muslim enough to fall in this category?
                              Just five persons contributed to the thread about the plight of a Muslim woman unjustly held in US prison,
                              It does not matter if the woman is a sunni or not; she is a Muslim and it is the duty of Rajal/foot of authority (men) to do something for her but never mind about doing something, even on the thread below not much interest was generated by the ones who consider themselves "qawm" of women. (
                              http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9596881.45
                              Whereas last week Edip was arrested and many swiftly reacted to that news even though he is just a political prisoner and has in no way suffered like Dr Aafia Siddiqui. This shows the sad state of the s.c. "qawwamoon". '(
                              http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9597353.0
                              peace

                              Salam Farida
                              I do not kow the story of the Suni Woman; but, I know that in the USA, people recieve Justice more than any place in the World (including Islamic contries).
                              Now; you cann't generalize a statment about all Man, otherwise, I will consider it Discrimination D
                              May Good Bless you.
                              Peace

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                                farida
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                                Salam Farida
                                I do not kow the story of the Suni Woman; but, I know that in the USA, people will recieve Justice more than any place in the World (including Islamic contries).
                                Now; you cann't generalize a statment about all Man, otherwise, I will consider it Discrimination D
                                May Good Bless you.
                                Peace

                                Salaam Belalhammad

                                I hope Dr Aafia Siddiqui who is currently held in the USA prison would recieve Justice more than any place in the World I am waiting to see it happen.

                                I hope you will take time to read about her plight, you can read all about her in the link I have given, then share with us what you think is the duty of Rijal/men in such situation since they are the one who are Qwan over women which should include all women. &

                                peace

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                                  Salaam Belalhammad

                                  I hope Dr Aafia Siddiqui who is currently held in the USA prison would recieve Justice more than any place in the World I am waiting to see it happen.

                                  I hope you will take time to read about her plight, you can read all about her in the link I have given, then share with us what you think is the duty of Rijal/men in such situation since they are the one who are Qwan over women which should include all women. &

                                  peace

                                  http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=pizA6bhybrc&feature=related

                                  http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeDZcNBAA_s&feature=related

                                  http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq4PFnl1S6Q&feature=related

                                  I still see that the Women is more safe in the US than any other Moslem Country (she is a very well educated American who know the Aemrican system very well); the only thing we can do for her is to ask God to set her free if she is not Guilty.

                                  Frida, are you sure that this woman did not committ the crimes that she is being charged with? After I read the thread, I could not find any thing to prove her innocence.

                                  Peace

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                                    Salam
                                    Well I briefly read the replies out here..
                                    Hmm can a woman be really a messenger?? If ya..we have Mary(Maryam) certainly..
                                    But why we never had a woman Prophet though??I know that Allah knows best..But its a question that I really wish to have an answer to..
                                    anyway..I know that my topic is quite irrelevant here..but I cudnt help asking this Question..
                                    Fee Amanillah

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                                      Muslimtruthrevealed
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                                      Mariam were given The word of Allah--Jesus--and not the Bible

                                      Sheba was a powerful Queen and were given the Torah of Moses to spread between Here People. Two things to pay attention to a)she was the QUEEN, b) she did not recieve a book from God.

                                      True

                                      I will.

                                      Who mentioned 'Bible'?

                                      Saba / Sheba was NOT given any Torah, what are you talking about?

                                      "Go you, with this letter of mine, and deliver it to them. then draw back from them, and (wait to) see what answer they return"...

                                      Ithhab bikitabee hatha faalqih ilayhim thumma tawalla AAanhum faonthur matha yarjiAAoona

                                      (The queen) said. "You chiefs! here is delivered to me - a letter worthy of respect.

                                      Qalat ya ayyuha almalao innee olqiya ilayya kitabun kareemun

                                      "It is from Solomon, and is (as follows). 'In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

                                      Read Your Quran!

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                                        Salam
                                        Well usually when I take examples of Queen Sheba..as being a woman who achieved..the traditionalists that I talk to says that she gave up Reigning when she took the Shahadah..I really wanted to confirm that..
                                        Did she really quit reigning and made Solomon carry on the governing?/
                                        Please help me find an answer to refute..
                                        I cant find the answer to this -X

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                                          Salam
                                          Well usually when I take examples of Queen Sheba..as being a woman who achieved..the traditionalists that I talk to says that she gave up Reigning when she took the Shahadah..I really wanted to confirm that..
                                          Did she really quit reigning and made Solomon carry on the governing?/
                                          Please help me find an answer to refute..
                                          I cant find the answer to this -X

                                          Assalaam Aalaikum

                                          Saba / Sheba was alraedy blessed and worshiped Allah BEFORE meeting Sulaiman / Solomon

                                          "I found (there) a WOMAN RULING OVER THEM and provided with every requisite; and she has a magnificent throne.

                                          And so, as soon as she arrived, she was asked ?Is thy throne like this?? She answered ?It is as though it were the same!? And Solomon said to his nobles ?She has arrived at the truth without any help from us, although it is we who have been given knowledge before her, and have surrendered ourselves unto Allah!

                                          There was, for Saba, aforetime, a Sign in their home-land - two Gardens to the right and to the left. "Eat of the Sustenance (provided) by your Lord, and be grateful to Him. a territory fair and happy, and a Lord Oft-Forgiving!

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