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    Joe_Betik
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    salaam

    btw, when you meditate, please be mindful of verse 835 - 'Wama kana salatuhum AAinda albayti illa mukaan watasdiyatan fathooqoo alAAathaba bima kuntum takfuroona'.

    the saudi translation reads - Their prayer at the House (of Allah) is nothing but whistling and clapping of hands (Its only answer can be), ?Taste ye the Chastisement because ye blasphemed.?

    please consider this - And their 'salat' (relationship/bonding/communion) by meditation (al-bayt) is nothing but 'humming' while 'clasping the hands', "Therefore you taste the punishment, because you disbelieved."

    peace

    mohammed noh

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      belH
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      peace belalhammad

      "not all of them are the same."

      certainly not all who call themselves christians do not believe in the quran. they may be born to the situation they are in right now, but they do believe in God & all that He has enjoined us to believe which includes the quran.

      Peace
      Wakas is talking and advising a person who read and studied the Quran.
      Salam

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        jankren
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        If you feel better being a Christian then so be it. You can never know until you try. After all Jesus also promoted the worship of the same One True God.

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          AlFajr
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          Peace Confused,
          Why are you torn between Islam and Christianity? For me mainstream Christianity is obvious idol worship. Have you read the Quran?

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            mmkhan
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            Salaamab Confused,

            I don't know if you guys remember me, but I came here a few months ago saying that I was struggling with Islam. Then a few months later, I mentioned that I talked to a Sheikh who helped me and I started praying again. Well the problem is I'm back where I started. I stopped praying again. I find myself once again torn between Christianity or just not believing in a religion at all. I always think of my relatives who died and wonder what happened to them? Sometimes I feel that I want to die just to find out what exactly is the truth? I'm just so bloody curious!

            I don't know what to do

            welcome back to forum. Sorry I don't know you.

            Anyways... Don't worry, simply ask Allah to help you in all the ways, He is surely the Listener and Knower of each and every thing.

            May Allah help you and make things easy for you to decide and guide you and all of us towards the path that He has chosen for us. pr

            Take care...

            Khan

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              Wakas
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              peace belal, all,

              My point was to accept the commonality between the monotheist faiths (i.e. one God) and try to lead a righteous life. This way, there is no need to "choose". Of course, this will only work if this is the aspect one is struggling with, it may not be.

              confused, you, like all of us, are in the position of currently sitting the test, and dont worry, you, like everyone else, will soon find out the answer, this is a certainty. What is not certain, is whether the outcome will be good or bad for us, so what does one do when they are sitting a test unsure of the answer? They do the best they can.

              All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                belH
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                salaam,

                if i may throw in my half cent... please consider without prejudice.

                This not a half Cent...this is one of the best advises I have ever heard.
                May God bless you and increase your wisdom.
                bravo

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                  belH
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                  peace belal, all,

                  My point was to accept the commonality between the monotheist faiths (i.e. one God) and try to lead a righteous life. This way, there is no need to "choose". Of course, this will only work if this is the aspect one is struggling with, it may not be.

                  Peace Wakas
                  Think you for your reply; I still think rejecting the Quran after reading and studying it is a great sin. do you agree?

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                    Confused
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                    Salam jasmine

                    I am from egypt too handshake

                    Can u just calm down, and take this reliogn issue smoothely.

                    It is positive that u use ur mind and think, that what exactely wht God ordered us, and unfortuntely only the minority do

                    i think most of us had passed through a time of confusion concerning some reliogion issues with diffrent degree. i myself was born sunni and did my best to follow the ahadith and sunna, but by time i discovered the lot of contradictions between them and the quraan , the only nonsuspicious book.

                    I think the problem with u is asking the wrong ppl for guidance and advice, u r asking shyouk who abondaned God book and follow the man made books which are full of faked, insane stories about islam., and which god warned us from follwing them.

                    when i started following the quran only, things began to make sense, and i felt my mind become clear and clean. Sure there are issue which is not fully understood, but what is wrong with that, God well guide us eventually.

                    1976 And God increases the guidance of those who are guided. And what remains of good is better with your Lord as a reward and a far better return.

                    Islam is the only religion of god, it is easy and sensible.

                    May God guide us all

                    peace

                    Hi,

                    I'm really glad I found someone from Egypt here. I think since you live there you probably saw what happened to the country when it became "religous." People became mean, rude and intolerant. How can a country that has one of the oldest civilizations, and the most beautiful culture with the third movie production in the world go down like that? How can the country that has for decades been producing some of the best movies, music, literature brand all of these things as "haram." What's going on here? Why is all this happening?

                    I have to say one of the things that are really turning me off Islam is how people are becoming so bloody judgemental. You don't see Christians or Jews or Buddhists or in fact people of any religion behave like that. Last year I was interviewing a convert to Islam (I'm a journalist) and half way through the interview he said, "you know some people like to be middle muslims like you so that they can be accepted by the West." Now why did this guy call me a "Middle Muslim"? Because I'm not veiled. This is by the way a very small example. Muslims are becoming so bloody judgemental, always telling each other that they are not practicing the way they should. Which other religions do that? None.

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                      Alen
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                      I don't know if you guys remember me, but I came here a few months ago saying that I was struggling with Islam. Then a few months later, I mentioned that I talked to a Sheikh who helped me and I started praying again. Well the problem is I'm back where I started. I stopped praying again. I find myself once again torn between Christianity or just not believing in a religion at all. I always think of my relatives who died and wonder what happened to them? Sometimes I feel that I want to die just to find out what exactly is the truth? I'm just so bloody curious!
                      I don't know what to do

                      Peace,
                      Respectfully.

                      My thought on this is this read The Bible, read The Quran, compare, talk to priests as well as imams and then go home and use your own logic.
                      You have to use your own judgment, afterall, you are making your decisions and not Bible, Quran, priests, imams or this forum.

                      What does the oracle tell Neo at the first meeting?

                      Glory be to our God,
                      Glory be to our God.
                      God bless you.
                      Peace.

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                        afridi220
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                        peace belalhammad

                        "not all of them are the same."

                        certainly not all who call themselves christians do not believe in the quran. they may be born to the situation they are in right now, but they do believe in God & all that He has enjoined us to believe which includes the quran. it may take some time but who knows these brothers among the so called christian faith will emerge to make themselves known.

                        Of course God knows best. if i may quote

                        3113 They are not all the same, from the people of the book are an upright nation; they recite God's signs during parts of the night and they prostrate.

                        and from 7431 RT "........None knows your Lord's soldiers except Him. It is but a reminder for people."

                        jedi peace. ramon O0

                        Sorry dear the majority believes in trinity which is equal to Hinduism.
                        voodoo

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                          Wakas
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                          Peace Wakas
                          Think you for your reply; I still think rejecting the Quran after reading and studying it is a great sin. do you agree?

                          peace,

                          Where did 'confused' say he/she had read and studied the Quran then rejected it? Nowhere.

                          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                            Soraya
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                            salam sister
                            Religion concerns only U and ur creator..God created U to adore HIM only..so U dont have to bother about people.As long as u have a true conscious for yourself..
                            You have to keep on researching sister..Dont give up looking for truth..
                            And there is something called patience..
                            U have to keep on looking for perfection in what u think is right..who knows,,maybe 1 day U shall find that Islam is indeed perfect,bearing in mind that Muslims are not,unfortunately
                            All the best sister
                            Fee Amanillah<Be in Allah's Trust>

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                              Hope
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                              Hi,

                              I'm really glad I found someone from Egypt here. I think since you live there you probably saw what happened to the country when it became "religous." People became mean, rude and intolerant. How can a country that has one of the oldest civilizations, and the most beautiful culture with the third movie production in the world go down like that? How can the country that has for decades been producing some of the best movies, music, literature brand all of these things as "haram." What's going on here? Why is all this happening?

                              I have to say one of the things that are really turning me off Islam is how people are becoming so bloody judgemental. You don't see Christians or Jews or Buddhists or in fact people of any religion behave like that. Last year I was interviewing a convert to Islam (I'm a journalist) and half way through the interview he said, "you know some people like to be middle muslims like you so that they can be accepted by the West." Now why did this guy call me a "Middle Muslim"? Because I'm not veiled. This is by the way a very small example. Muslims are becoming so bloody judgemental, always telling each other that they are not practicing the way they should. Which other religions do that? None.

                              Hi
                              i am also glad i found someone from egypt here handshake

                              Yes indeed i am seeing what happen to the country and ppl, and it is devestating and frustrating, but that is not cos of religion, it is mainly cos of the system , ther is nothing called system in this country, every one is acting the way he like, no strict laws to follow so corrupption is every where, and for sure it is partially cos of religion BUT not God Religion, ppl in egypt are sunni , they r following man-made religion > which tell them whatever they do they r going to heaven.

                              yes egypt used to be a nice country, but that was before the militry revolution when the curve started decline.

                              Sill movies, music and song are largely produced in the country, it is not forbidden, and if anyone say it is haram, it is not from the quraan , it is from the traditional man -made books, who cares about these books ignore

                              we dont see christians and jews behave like that????!!! and what about the world war 1 and world war 2 and the holoucost and massacres in bosnia and kosovo, and burying ppl alive and the death and tortures of millions, was it initiated by muslims??? they were christians who did that horrible stuffs.

                              Islam has has nothing to do with all of that , it is a religion of peace and good deeds, if u want to know real islam u will find it in God book al-quraan.
                              Dont care about ppl or how they behave, you have ur own mind, you have ur own deeds.

                              peace

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                                belH
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                                peace,

                                Where did 'confused' say he/she had read and studied the Quran then rejected it? Nowhere.

                                Peace
                                So I take it that you agree that it would be a great Sin to reject the Quran after reading and studying it. Confused is a Moslem who has been praying for a while, as the post shows.
                                Peace

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                                  belH
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                                  Hi
                                  i am also glad i found someone from egypt here handshake

                                  I'm really glad I found someone from Egypt here.

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                                    afridi220
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                                    Where is the party & the drummers yay

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                                      Hope
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                                      welcome

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                                        Hope
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                                        Where is the party & the drummers yay

                                        laugh

                                        P.S. Do u know arabic?

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                                          afridi220
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                                          laugh

                                          P.S. Do u know arabic?

                                          Yes i know Arabs laugh

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