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Poll for brothers only

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Questions/Comments on the Quran
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    Al_Araf
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    salam belalh.

    Fathers can have a true love to their children that is equal or even more than mother love to them. Moreover, Mother's Love for her Kids is Different than her love to her husband.

    why do you say to me, this is my opinion not supported by the quran, then turn around and state your opinion, not supported by the quran?

    read my reply to jasmin above. i was not talking about love. you cannot come up with your own opinions out of thin air, then claim i am the one who has that opinion, then criticise the very opinion
    you created.

    did i say to jasmin this is from the quran, no, why do you accuse me of claiming it is from the quran?
    should i turn around and accuse you the same way, saying your love discussion is not supported by the quran?

    allah is the truth

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      belH
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      salam belalh.
      why do you say to me, this is my opinion not supported by the quran, then turn around and state your opinion, not supported by the quran?

      read my reply to jasmin above. i was not talking about love. you cannot come up with your own opinions out of thin air, then claim i am the one who has that opinion, then criticise the very opinion
      you created.

      did i say to jasmin this is from the quran, no, why do you accuse me of claiming it is from the quran?
      should i turn around and accuse you the same way, saying your love discussion is not supported by the quran?

      allah is the truth

      Peace Arif
      You stated the following

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      allah has a justice in the system he created. a wife, first has an intimate relationship with her husband. then the wife
      has an even more intimate relationship with her children. as a result, a wife has an intimate relationship with more than
      one person, the husband and the children. the husband has an intimate relationship with the wife, and not an intimate
      realtionship with the children. justice and fairness dictate, that if a wife can have more than one intimate relationship
      then a husband must also have the same, more than one intimate relationship. anything else would be unjust.
      End Quote
      And that is why I said what I said to you.
      on the other hand, I believe man can Love more than one because God has gave him the permission to have relationship with more than one female. Now do you see that my opinion is not supported by Quran?

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        unknownuser
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        allah has a justice in the system he created. a wife, first has an intimate relationship with her husband. then the wife
        has an even more intimate relationship with her children. as a result, a wife has an intimate relationship with more than
        one person, the husband and the children. the husband has an intimate relationship with the wife, and not an intimate
        realtionship with the children. justice and fairness dictate, that if a wife can have more than one intimate relationship
        then a husband must also have the same, more than one intimate relationship. anything else would be unjust.

        i use the term intimate, to describe the fact that a child grows inside a wife's body, and a child does not grow inside
        a husbands body.

        allah is justice.

        Salam,

        First of all let me state clearly and plainly There is a HUGE difference between the relationship a parent has with his/her children and the relationship one has with a spouse. To make the comparison, to me, is as different as night and day and completely illogical.

        By Al Araf's absurd argument, one could say that as soon as the children are independent and no longer reliant on a woman's body for nurishment or growth (in other words not breast feeding), then a woman no longer has an intimate relationship with the children. Does this mean that she can then go and find another spouse to have the same number of so called intimate relationships as her husband?

        Such illogical thinking leads to many transgressions.

        Since Al Araf brought up the subject of equity, show me where it says that if one spouse has something the other automatically gets the same.
        There is no rule saying that if one spouse has X, Y, and Z that the other spouse should also have X, Y, and Z.

        So to use the argument of the wife has X amount of so called intimate relationships as argument for a husband to have X amount of so called intimate relationships is ridiculous.

        yes, i am not implying, i am saying that for a woman to attempt to impose an unsupported rule, based on unreliable emotion, and emotion is a bad adviser, she should examine why she does
        not insist that allah be her lord exclusively, to the exclusion of all others. when a woman finds her emotional state is comfortable with allahs sharing his love with others, which is a good thing
        why does she find herself switching around and calling the sharing of love a bad thing?

        Do you realize that for a man to take another wife it is based on a man's emotion? I would say emotions such as jealousy (for the wife nourishing her child), feelings of neglect (for the attention that the wife has to give to the child), and feelings of lust and love (for another woman),
        and revenge (revenge in the sense that the husband is lashing out at the woman for baring his child and then caring for said child since he feels neglected and jealous).

        Sounds like the man is more emotional than the woman who is fulfilling her natural duty.

        Salam,
        Arnab

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          Jasmin
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          Al Araf,

          None of your justifications make any sense to me, probably because none of them are in conjunction with the teachings of the Quran. I understand that you have given your own personal opinion, but there is a clear difference between giving your opinion based upon Quranic teachings and coming up with ideas from thin air. The Quran is logical, if you had based your opinion on it then what you would have said would have made more sense.
          peace

          p.s.Read Arnab's post carefully, maybe this will make things clearer, Or even better, Read the Quran.

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            mmkhan
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            Salaamun all,

            i thought it would be interesting to see how many guys had the courage to voice their opinion. Glad to know that atleast one is man enough to do so.

            Hmmmm hmm I can understand where you are coming from >D

            I did not vote, as I don't have any wife ( yet. And I do not have experience of keeping more than one at a time sun

            Khan

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              the_seeker
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              Peace all
              I would like to clarify why I'm arguing about this issue (Pylogamy).
              I know from Quran that God have clarified that Man is allowed to Marry four women (taking into consideration all the conditions).
              But Sadly, many Quran Aloners are arguing against it, and trying to ignore the Facts that Most of Prophets had done it.
              Thus, I'm trying to show that Psychologically Man is capable of marring four women; nevertheless, I'm not promoting nor encouraging Polygamy to Men or Myself, after all, Polygamy is not ordered upon Men to do (obligatory), but a choice if they can fulfill its conditions.

              I voted yes, taking into consideration my understanding of Man Love to Woman

              Male is to care for the Female (fulfill her psychological and bodily needs) and provide protection to here and her kids (prevent the psychological and bodily harms).

              Please be aware that many Males will be Chickened out from replying in writing &.

              "Their wives will slice them if they found out about their Inner Opinion rotfl
              Peace

              peace all

              i quite agree with the statement in pink... &

              ramon

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                Jasmin
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                Salaamun all,

                Hmmmm hmm I can understand where you are coming from >D

                I did not vote, as I don't have any wife ( yet. And I do not have experience of keeping more than one at a time sun

                Khan

                Hey! aren't you getting married soon? then you'll be able to vote ;D sun

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                  mmkhan
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                  Salaaman Jasmin,

                  Hey! aren't you getting married soon? then you'll be able to vote ;D sun

                  InshaAllah, inshaAllah... after getting married, I will be among voters ;D

                  Khan

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                    Jasmin
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                    Salaaman Jasmin,

                    InshaAllah, inshaAllah... after getting married, I will be among voters ;D

                    Khan

                    If your future wife is a member here then i'm sure she will be keeping a close eye on this thread to see what you have to say later on ;D

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                      unknownuser
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                      Peace all

                      I voted "no". Because i don't think any man can love more than one woman. That would be false love or lust. True love in my opinion can only be for one woman, not two.

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                        SubmitterToGOD
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                        i replied no,

                        i don't think one man can really have romantic love for more than one woman

                        Peace peace

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                          mmkhan
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                          Salaaman Jasmin,

                          If your future wife is a member here then i'm sure she will be keeping a close eye on this thread to see what you have to say later on ;D

                          Oh yeah.. she is a member of this forum... she is a silent killer... Ooops! sorry sorry.. I mean, she is a silent member of this forum not active. What am I saying brickwall

                          Jasmin, are you planning to voodoo me? I hope she will not read this.

                          Khan

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                            Jasmin
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                            Salaaman Jasmin,

                            Oh yeah.. she is a member of this forum... she is a silent killer... Ooops! sorry sorry.. I mean, she is a silent member of this forum not active. What am I saying brickwall

                            Jasmin, are you planning to voodoo me? I hope she will not read this.

                            Khan

                            Omg! ;D you make me laugh!

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                              Jasmin
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                              i replied no,

                              i don't think one man can really have romantic love for more than one woman

                              Peace peace

                              Peace all

                              I voted "no". Because i don't think any man can love more than one woman. That would be false love or lust. True love in my opinion can only be for one woman, not two.

                              Finally! thank you God! hail

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                                the_seeker
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                                Omg! ;D you make me laugh! D

                                peace all

                                you are online sis? what time is there in your part of the world?

                                ramon

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                                  Jasmin
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                                  peace all

                                  you are online sis? what time is there in your part of the world?

                                  ramon

                                  yep it's 730pm )

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                                    the_seeker
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                                    yep it's 730pm

                                    alhamdulillah for the computer & internet...there is really no "bounds" anymore. it's close to fajr here in the philippines.

                                    have a wonderful weekend to all...sorry for off-topic.

                                    ramon

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                                      Al_Araf
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                                      salam. i read the title of the poll.

                                      it says poll for brothers only.

                                      it appears to me that some people i thought were sisters, or had female names, are posting in the thread.

                                      something is wrong here.

                                      allah is the truth.

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                                        unknownuser
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                                        salam. i read the title of the poll.

                                        it says poll for brothers only.

                                        it appears to me that some people i thought were sisters, or had female names, are posting in the thread.

                                        something is wrong here.

                                        allah is the truth.

                                        Salam,

                                        Do you think by stating the above it will allow you to avoid Jasmine and my questions or the fact that we pointed out your fallacy of reasoning.

                                        Besides, even what you said above is lacking intellectual clarity the poll is for brothers. The forum is not !

                                        Salam,
                                        Arnab

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                                          Jasmin
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                                          salam. i read the title of the poll.

                                          it says poll for brothers only.

                                          it appears to me that some people i thought were sisters, or had female names, are posting in the thread.

                                          something is wrong here.

                                          allah is the truth.

                                          Somehow i feel this is directed at me
                                          It's a 'Poll' for brothers only, meaning only brothers can vote. As for the thread,anyone can comment, both male and female. Is that clear enough for you?

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