The Shahada
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The correct Shahada (Testimony)
http//www.quran-islam.org/164.html
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Peace Afridi
The following is a wrong analysis in the articleBegin Quote
God's Greatness is far beyond human understanding, so much so that we are not to associate anything or anybody with the name of God."You shall worship God alone, do not associate ANYTHING with Him." 436
"Say (O Muhammad), "I am no more than a human like you, being inspired that your God is One God. Those who hope to meet their Lord shall work righteousness, and never associate ANYBODY with the worship of their Lord." 18110
Note the words
"do not associate ANYTHING"
and in another other verse we read
"do not associate ANYBODY" ........ this is to emphasis that we should not put the name of ANYTHING nor ANYBODY next to the name of God.
End Quote
The article you mentioned is wrong in analyzing the above; the following verses prove them wrong (get your translation rotfl)
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(Chapter 4 verse 136, please note what God says in the Book (his name beside his messenger); moreover note how believer should believe
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chapter 5 verse 55
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chapter 9 verse 59
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God Prohibits any one To worship any Body beside Him, as Prophet Mohamed told us in Quran. Now Worshiping is Far from Testifying that the Prophet Mohamed or Abraham or Jesus are the Slaves (messengers) of God; simply because it is the TRUTH.
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Peace Belalhammad,
Reciting "al-shahaada" is considered an act of worship, and this is an undisputable fact. It must be acknowledged in order to be a true submitter and believer;
Peace
You are commended (2-140, 33-40) to make shahadda to every thing in the book--The Truth; and when you do that, you are worshiping God. One of the Truth is the Unseen (Prophet Mohamed, Jesus, Abraham...etc)We, as muslims, can acknowledge Mohammed's prophethood and messengership
What is the Arabic Word that you use to translate acknowledge?
And you STILL haven't explained why Mohammed's name is not in the shahaada mentioned in the Quran (i.e. 31.
I pointed for you before that in Quran God showed us that it was common during the prophet time, and God called it an Oath.
Peace
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Peace Hope,
I disagree with that slightly. He does want "those with knowledge" to testify that there is no god but God. In my understanding, "those with knowledge" have been mentioned separate from "those who believe" in al-quran, and "those with knowledge" seem to be at a higher level than "those who believe". Those with knowledge, therefore, are also believers, but not all believers are "those with knowledge".
Peace TS11
Testifying there is no God but God has a greater meaning that you and every one should know;
When I say I testify that there is no God can be worshiped Except Allah, I have the following intentionThere is no one can be OBEYED except ALLAH.
God knows that all the people of the Book believe that there is no God but Him; thus He want us to know that No one can be Obeyed (worshiped) except Him; no Bukkary, no Wahabi, no Emam or any other false religious Lords.
And that is the True Meaning and essence of the Shahadda every one is talking about in this thread. -
Peace BelH,
You are commended (2-140, 33-40) to make shahadda to every thing in the book--The Truth; and when you do that, you are worshiping God. One of the Truth is the Unseen (Prophet Mohamed, Jesus, Abraham...etc)
That is not true at all. The shahaada prescribed by God is, "La ilaaha ila Allah" (There is no god except Allah). To further testify, "Muhammad ar-rasuwlu Allah" is in fact TWO SHAHAADAS (shahaadayn), not one. To make shahaada is to utter ONE testimony, not two... And if you notice the verse where Muhammad is being recited in a shahaada in the Quran, it is uttered by the hypocrites, not the believers. Here's the verse
When the Hypocrites come to you they say, "We bear witness that you are indeed the Messenger of Allah." Allah knows you are His Messenger, and Allah bears witness the Hypocrites are indeed liars. (631)
This is the only place this statement is made, and it is declared by the hypocrites. Now, does Allah teach us to include Muhammad in our testimony? NO. In this same verse, after the hypocrites make this statement, it says that Allah KNOWS (not bears witness) that Muhammad is His messenger. Then, it says He bears witness that the hypocrites are liars... So, why doesn't the verse say, 'Allah bears witness that you are His messenger', instead of saying He knows? This is because He knew that some would distort this verse to claim the rights to their shirk shahaada. Never in the Quran does it say that the believers speak this shahaada about Muhammad, bearing witness to his messengership, NEVER. That proves that this is a manmade innovation, and it is not advised by God in the Quran; in fact, it is rejected, and it says that the only ones who make this declaration are the hypocrites.
What is the Arabic Word that you use to translate acknowledge?
I didn't use the word acknowledge from the scriptures. I said we must acknowledge all the messengers and believe in them. It doesn't say anything about testifying to their messengership through "alshahaada", however. The only one who is deserving of our shahaada is GOD ALONE.
I pointed for you before that in Quran God showed us that it was common during the prophet time, and God called it an Oath.
You pointed out that it was common among the hypocrites, not among the believers. A testimony and an oath are two completely different things, and an oath is not called "shahaada" in the scriptures. An oath is called "aymaan", and Allah even councils the muslims on these
Allah does not hold you to account for what is unintentional in "aymaanikum"/your oaths, but He holds you to account for what your hearts have earned. And Allah is Forgiving, Forbearing. (2225)
Where did you see that a "shahaada"/testimony and an "aymaan"/oath are the same?
Peace,
Ahmad
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Testifying there is no God but God has a greater meaning that you and every one should know;
When I say I testify that there is no God can be worshiped Except Allah, I have the following intentionThere is no one can be OBEYED except ALLAH.
God knows that all the people of the Book believe that there is no God but Him; thus He want us to know that No one can be Obeyed (worshiped) except Him; no Bukkary, no Wahabi, no Emam or any other false religious Lords.
And that is the True Meaning and essence of the Shahadda every one is talking about in this thread.Salaam,
Obeying is not the primary issue here, first we need to have solid belief that God is watchful over us and HE is the provider. No one could harm us or benefit us, NO one can bring an end to our life, Nor can any one give us the relief from the suffering Except God, All our affairs are in the complete control God, when one instil this belief without any doubt only then he gets rids of all other gods who induce fear in us to control our lives. It is the fear that stops us from doing our duty towards God so when we are feeling scared we need to remind us the Kalima consciously "there is no other gods but God, all powers lies with GOD" only with this faith, we can get rid of fear of false power, who are nothing but inflated bubbles about to burst.
In todays world JIHAD (striving against wrong) has been made to look like evil word and many do not use this word because of the fear of bubbles around us so if you do really want to give shahada testify it with your deeds showing complete faith in the power of God, otherwise its nothing but empty words.How does one worship God? By standing up against all wrongful practices ie the Jihad imposed on all of us promoting truth and eradicating false hood creating a just and fair society and be mindful of our duty to others by treating others as we would like to be treated.
peace
peace
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Peace BelH,
That is not true at all. The shahaada prescribed by God is, "La ilaaha ila Allah" (There is no god except Allah). To further testify, "Muhammad ar-rasuwlu Allah" is in fact TWO SHAHAADAS (shahaadayn), not one. To make shahaada is to utter ONE testimony, not two... And if you notice the verse where Muhammad is being recited in a shahaada in the Quran, it is uttered by the hypocrites, not the believers. Here's the verse
When the Hypocrites come to you they say, "We bear witness that you are indeed the Messenger of Allah." Allah knows you are His Messenger, and Allah bears witness the Hypocrites are indeed liars. (631)
AL Araf
Do not try to understand 63-1 without reading the proceeding verses.
That is how I understand the versesFree-Minds Translation
In the name of God, the Almighty, the Merciful.
631 When the hypocrites come to you they say ?We bear witness that you are the messenger of God.? And God knows that you are His messenger, and God bears witness that the hypocrites are liars.
632 They have chosen their oath as a deceit, thus they repel from the path of God. Miserable indeed is what they do.
633 That is because they believed, then disbelieved. Hence, their hearts are sealed; they do not understand.
634 And when you see them, you are impressed by their physical stature; and when they speak, you listen to their eloquence. They are like blocks of wood propped-up. They think that every call is intended for them. These are the enemies, so beware of them. May God condemn them; they have deviated.
635 And if they are told ?Come and let the messenger of God ask for your forgiveness,? they turn aside their heads, and you see them walking away in pride.When reading the above, please note in 63-2, the word "Their Oath"; What was the Oath they Took in 63-1?
It is "Nshadoo anak Rasool Allah" we bear witness that you are God Messenger.Moreover, 63-3, please note "They believed...then disbelieved"; What was their first act that implied their Believing? is it the first act of 63-1, the Shahada-Oath?
Now, note if this People, the Hypocrites were in Love with Mohamed (as the Suni of today), why they walked away from him in 63-5. Is it because they do not mean what they said in verse 1?
Thus, my case is proven that Testifying that the prophet is the Messenger of God was Common during the Prophet time, which was confirmed by 3-86. -
AL Araf
Do not try to understand 63-1 without reading the proceeding verses.
That is how I understand the verses632 They have chosen their oath as a deceit, thus they repel from the path of God.
now my question who chose this oath god or the hypocrites ???
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Salaam,
Obeying is not the primary issue herePeace Frida
IT IS the Primary Issue.
Please reread what you posted, which I know it is the Truth, and think for a moment...is what you wrote is what God Showed you in His Book? Thus, you said what you said because you are Obeying and Believing in One Guidance, God's Words. All fall under Obeying and Following His guidance.now my question who chose this oath god or the hypocrites ???
If you were living during Prophet Mohamed, what would you do if you believed He is a Prophet of God? Would you Testify and take the Oath to support Him? What will be the Arabic words that you will say to him? is it
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Peace BelH,
When reading the above, please note in 63-2, the word "Their Oath"; What was the Oath they Took in 63-1?
It is "Nshadoo anak Rasool Allah" we bear witness that you are God Messenger.This is false. The scriptures say that the hypocrites come to Muhammad with that testimony/shahaada, showing that they are ALREADY HYPOCRITES when they state this. The fact that they are said to be "believers, then disbelievers" is a clear sign that they took the same oath/aymaan that all submitters took the vow to worship GOD ALONE. They became disbelievers by taking partners alongside Allah.
Moreover, 63-3, please note "They believed...then disbelieved"; What was their first act that implied their Believing? is it the first act of 63-1, the Shahada-Oath?
Now, note if this People, the Hypocrites were in Love with Mohamed (as the Suni of today), why they walked away from him in 63-5. Is it because they do not mean what they said in verse 1?This is false. The Sunnis attest to this same shahaada, but they reject Muhammad. How so? Because they disregard his teachings. Bearing witness that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah is a manmade innovation, and it is only done by the hypocrites. When they are told of their wrongdoings, they walk away in pride (635) instead of ask for forgiveness and admit their blasphemy. 632 says they have chosen their oath/aymaan as "deceit" because they have deceived themselves into believing they are righteous worshipers of GOD ALONE, even though they are blasphemers who idolize the prophet Muhammad. Yet, they reject Muhammad by not obeying the message he delivered, and when they are informed of them, they become prideful and arrogant instead of repentant. And just like today's sectarians, their hearts become sealed, and "they do not understand" (633).
Peace,
Ahmad
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AL Araf
Do not try to understand 63-1 without reading the proceeding verses.
That is how I understand the versesFree-Minds Translation
In the name of God, the Almighty, the Merciful.
631 When the hypocrites come to you they say ?We bear witness that you are the messenger of God.? And God knows that you are His messenger, and God bears witness that the hypocrites are liars.
632 They have chosen their oath as a deceit, thus they repel from the path of God. Miserable indeed is what they do.
633 That is because they believed, then disbelieved. Hence, their hearts are sealed; they do not understand.
634 And when you see them, you are impressed by their physical stature; and when they speak, you listen to their eloquence. They are like blocks of wood propped-up. They think that every call is intended for them. These are the enemies, so beware of them. May God condemn them; they have deviated.
635 And if they are told ?Come and let the messenger of God ask for your forgiveness,? they turn aside their heads, and you see them walking away in pride.When reading the above, please note in 63-2, the word "Their Oath"; What was the Oath they Took in 63-1?
It is "Nshadoo anak Rasool Allah" we bear witness that you are God Messenger.Moreover, 63-3, please note "They believed...then disbelieved"; What was their first act that implied their Believing? is it the first act of 63-1, the Shahada-Oath?
Now, note if this People, the Hypocrites were in Love with Mohamed (as the Suni of today), why they walked away from him in 63-5. Is it because they do not mean what they said in verse 1?
Thus, my case is proven that Testifying that the prophet is the Messenger of God was Common during the Prophet time, which was confirmed by 3-86.BelH
You haven't proven nothing. You will only be able to prove your shirk shahaada if and only if you can show us one verse that says "I bear witness that there is not god but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah" and we are all still waiting for you to produce just one verse!
Even in the Holy Qur'aan Prophet Muhammad when he was giving the Shahaada, he did not place his name within the same abode as Allah when he was addressing the mushrikiyna in Qur'aan 619
Qur?aan 619
Say, ?What thing is greatest as a testimony?? Say ?Allah is the Witness between me and you that this Qur?aan has been inspired to me so that I may warn you with it and whomever it reaches. Do you really bear witness that there are other gods besides Allah?? Say ?I do not bear witness.? Say ?He is only One Creator, and indeed, I am free of what you associate (with Him).?This is another verse for the Shahaada and you will not find Prophet Muhammad injecting his name in the Shahaada, he bears witness that the Creator is One. Below is the Arabic break down for this verse on the Shahaada
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Again notice that you will not see ?Muhammad an Rasuwl Allah? mentioned in the Shahaada found in Qur?aan 619. Notice in Qur?aan 619 Prophet Muhammad does not bear witness to their Shahaada of the mushrikiyna
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And Prophet Muhammad went on to say
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And notice that when Muhammad said this to the mushrikiyna ?Say He is only One Creator?-HE (MUHAMMAD) DID NOT PUT HIS NAME IN THIS KALIMA OR SHAHAADA. You will never find Muhammad?s name in the Shahaada inside the Holy Qur?aan because that never was the Shahaada. By placing Muhammad?s name or any other Prophet for that matter in the same abode with Allah is binding partners, it is associating partners with Allah. Our Creator is Waahid (One) and Wahdau (Alone), there is only but one True Kalima, Shahaada, First Pillar of Faith, which all the Prophets taught
LA ILAHA ILLA ALLAH
The Muslims representing in this post who uphold Qur'aan alone have proven beyond doubt that the Shahaada bears Allah's name ALONE; We have proven in Qur'aan 318 that this is the Shahaada and we have proven in Qur'aan 619 that the Shahaada bears Allah's name alone and that Prophet Muhammad did NOT place his name in the Shahaada, so why are you going against Allah, The Qur'aan, Prophet Muhammad all because you believe in the Sunni's false, shirk, pagan, idol worshiop Shahaada which has no foundation in Al Qur'aan!
http//kushite.webs.com/shahaada.htm
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And notice that when Muhammad said this to the mushrikiyna ?Say He is only One Creator?-HE (MUHAMMAD) DID NOT PUT HIS NAME IN THIS KALIMA OR SHAHAADA.
The Muslims representing in this post who uphold Qur'aan alone have proven beyond doubt that the Shahaada bears Allah's name ALONE; We have proven in Qur'aan 318 that this is the Shahaada and we have proven in Qur'aan 619 that the Shahaada bears Allah's name alone and that Prophet Muhammad did NOT place his name in the Shahaada, so why are you going against Allah, The Qur'aan, Prophet Muhammad all because you believe in the Sunni's false, shirk, pagan, idol worshiop Shahaada which has no foundation in Al Qur'aan!Did anyone say That Mohamed is a Creator? Or did I say a Slave Creature who was chosen by our Creator to convey the Quran?
I think when Mohamed name is Mentioned, many people have a panic attack rotfl He is a Slave and not God pr
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Peace Frida
IT IS the Primary Issue.
Please reread what you posted, which I know it is the Truth, and think for a moment...is what you wrote is what God Showed you in His Book? Thus, you said what you said because you are Obeying and Believing in One Guidance, God's Words. All fall under Obeying and Following His guidance.If you were living during Prophet Mohamed, what would you do if you believed He is a Prophet of God? Would you Testify and take the Oath to support Him? What will be the Arabic words that you will say to him? is it
Salaam
Primary issue is the faith in God, once you have strong belief it is only after that stage you develop devotion to serve God.
Btw you have ignored other points I raise are you too scared to utter word Jihad. ???I think when Mohamed name is Mentioned, many people have a panic attack
And I think when JIHAD is mentioned many more have panic attack &
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Did anyone say That Mohamed is a Creator? Or did I say a Slave Creature who was chosen by our Creator to convey the Quran?
I think when Mohamed name is Mentioned, many people have a panic attack rotfl He is a Slave and not God pr
There is no panic attack but there is big time shuffling on your behalf. We have demonstrated that Allah did not put Muhammad's name in the Shahaada (31 and we have demonstrated that Muhammad himself did not put his name in the Shahaada (619) so who are you to put his (Muhammad's) name in the Shahaada! We are demanding the facts and you cannot produce just one verse to support your sunni fabricated shahaada which again has no bases in Al Qur'aan.
The only true Shahaada bears Allah's name ALONE is consistent throughout the teachings of Al Qur'aan as seen below
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The Sunni Shahaada that you believe in is only found in satanic innovations called hadiyth which Allah has clearly condemned and this is why you can't find it in the Qur'aan
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There is no panic attack but there is big time shuffling on your behalf. We have demonstrated that Allah did not put Muhammad's name in the Shahaada (31 and we have demonstrated that Muhammad himself did not put his name in the Shahaada (619) so who are you to put his (Muhammad's) name in the Shahaada! We are demanding the facts and you cannot produce just one verse to support your sunni fabricated shahaada which again has no bases in Al Qur'aan.
I Got a Solution for you after taking the following facts into consideration
There is only one God-Allah
I Have to Worship Allah By Following His Guidences .
God Guidence is The Quran
The Quran was revealed and written By His Messenger Mohamed.
Thus, To Worship Allah, I have to Obey the Book that Was Written By Mohamed.Here is the Solution
The New Comer to Islam should say the Following "I Bear Witness that There is no God worth of Worshiping and Obeying except Allah...waits 15 minutes and say the Following "and to worship him, I have to follow the Guidence that was written by his True Messenger Mohamed, the Quidence of Al-Quran.Is that would solve Mohamedphobia Psychological problem?
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Btw you have ignored other points I raise are you too scared to utter word Jihad. ???And I think when JIHAD is mentioned many more have panic attack &
rotfl Woman woman woman, they will always remember every thing; but what can you say, we can not live without them; they are the fruit of life.
Now back to the issue you are trying to corner me for; What do you want me to do in Jehad? Should I go to Afganistan to fight with or against AlQaida?
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rotfl Woman woman woman, they will always remember every thing; but what can you say, we can not live without them; they are the fruit of life.
Goes both ways yes
Now back to the issue you are trying to corner me for; What do you want me to do in Jehad? Should I go to Afganistan to fight with or against AlQaida?
Typical concept of Jihad brickwall
For a start understand true concept of Jihad then you can work out where to apply it, especially since you consider yourself Rijal muscle -
Here is the Solution
The New Comer to Islam should say the Following "I Bear Witness that There is no God worth of Worshiping and Obeying except Allah...waits 15 minutes and say the Following "and to worship him, I have to follow the Guidence that was written by his True Messenger Mohamed, the Quidence of Al-Quran.Should say following to convince who ???
Good night