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    Hope
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    Peace. Why shouldn't a female get married before 18? Do you say that because it's the law? If there was a law that said reading the Quran was illegal, would you agree with that law just because it's the law? In my opinion, males and females should be allowed to marry once they reach puberty. I don't recommend marrying so early, but it should be allowed. Puberty is the dividing point between childhood and the next level. However, forced marriage should never be allowed and that is what is wrong and disgusting.

    yeahThat is my opinon too, so far the marraige is with the own free will.

    Not necessary a female get married in the start of puberty, but she can if she wants.

    peace

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      SwedenMajidah
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      Peace. Why shouldn't a female get married before 18? Do you say that because it's the law? If there was a law that said reading the Quran was illegal, would you agree with that law just because it's the law? In my opinion, males and females should be allowed to marry once they reach puberty. I don't recommend marrying so early, but it should be allowed. Puberty is the dividing point between childhood and the next level. However, forced marriage should never be allowed and that is what is wrong and disgusting.

      Peace,

      No, it's not because any laws but it would be better if both genders wait and not get married too early.
      Of course if someone really wanted earlier they could but I think there had to be some checks up if the marriage really is manageable.

      Maria

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        afridi220
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        http//search.live.com/video/results.aspx?q=islamic+sex+girls&docid=289393410256&FORM=VIVR#docid=289393410256&first=21

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          FAR
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          Salam,

          A female should not get married before the age of 18 because it's her right to finish school and become full grown in her body.

          Maria

          I have two sisters..22 and 24
          both not married yet,,despite the pressure by parents..lol
          But Alhamdulilah we live happily together..
          Money used to be an issue at my place once..but 4now we can say we are much better..
          Allah always tests us..and we shud give the best out of uu

          Nice sun

          The rise of lesbianism same sexism with todays women is somewhat evident even here.

          I know that a post andropause male marrying a female in menarche, is the best arrangement for the female.

          "Her father and her 40-year old husband had disagreed on the dowry to be paid for her marriage and this caused him to tell her daughter to go to court. "

          How interesting... who get's the money? The wife or the father?

          "Our next step now is to do all that we can to make the minimum marriage age in Yemen 18 years," Shatha told Gulf News.

          This is what I call... "war on humanity". What's next, banning births?

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            salaam4usa
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            This happens all the time among the hindus in India.

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              Bosnian_Thinker
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              Peace,

              No, it's not because any laws but it would be better if both genders wait and not get married too early.
              Of course if someone really wanted earlier they could but I think there had to be some checks up if the marriage really is manageable.

              Maria

              That's true. People who get married later and have kids later usually end up having happier marriages.

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                FAR
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                That's true. People who get married later and have kids later usually end up having happier marriages.

                As many who try later... can't have kids later.

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                  SwedenMajidah
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                  As many who try later... can't have kids later.

                  Peace,

                  Not all people wants kids.

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                    afridi220
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                    Peace,

                    Not all people wants kids.

                    Re you sure confused

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                      FAR
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                      Peace,

                      Not all people wants kids.

                      Mostly those who love to fornicate.

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                        SwedenMajidah
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                        Mostly those who love to fornicate.

                        Well that was not good to draw so drastical conclusions of whom wants kids or not.

                        But I have heard of people who are very independant and likes to travel alot and they want to be free always, they don't want kids.

                        Maria

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                          srotu
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                          Mostly those who love to fornicate.

                          No. I don't want children and I don't have any interest in fornication. I might consider adoption but I'm more partial to opening an orphanage. My only concern in this issue is for the children without families to be raised well.

                          I agree too in an age limit around 18 or so. My reasoning is based upon the capacity of the girl to birth a child. Infant mortality rates are highest among young mothers. On top of that, marrying girls off upon reaching puberty seems to be treating them like cows or something. I had my first period at 7 and was fully developed by the age of 12, no way would I ever consider myself to be ready for marriage then, much less raising a family. I don't agree with men below the age of 18 getting married either because they moreso have to be financially stable. Therefore, the only eligible person to marry a 12 year old would be someone in his twenties. That makes the situation even more pathetic because he would have to interact with, essentially, a child. It's not paedophilia but I have a hard time taking any man who is attracted to someone so much younger than him seriously. It's different from a 25 year old woman with a 40 year old man, she at least is far more knowledgable than a 12 year old.

                          Aside from that, I believe in the right of girls to have education and choices. An educated mother will raise educated children. That's what we need more of. I don't want the future to be full of poorly-educated people because these people will also impact MY future.

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                            Bosnian_Thinker
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                            I agree too in an age limit around 18 or so.

                            Why? Nothing magical happens at age 18. My cousin got married at 14 by her will and she handled it great. Those who can't handle being married at that age shouldn't marry, but those who can should be allowed to. Peace.

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                              srotu
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                              The problem is deciding between who are truly ready and who are being pressured to do so. 18 is round about the time a person finishes formal education, barring university and as I've said earlier, an educated mother raises educated children. Age limits are set to protect children/young people from being taken advantage of. It is true that people mature differently and exceptions can be made. However, and please don't take this the wrong way, if the law states that only a person above the age of 18 can marry, and a person protests based upon grounds of early maturity, I have to question why they can't be mature enough to wait just a little bit longer. That time can also be used to build up greater resources to better serve the family they will be raising together.

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                                Bosnian_Thinker
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                                The problem is deciding between who are truly ready and who are being pressured to do so. 18 is round about the time a person finishes formal education, barring university and as I've said earlier, an educated mother raises educated children. Age limits are set to protect children/young people from being taken advantage of. It is true that people mature differently and exceptions can be made. However, and please don't take this the wrong way, if the law states that only a person above the age of 18 can marry, and a person protests based upon grounds of early maturity, I have to question why they can't be mature enough to wait just a little bit longer. That time can also be used to build up greater resources to better serve the family they will be raising together.

                                You're not offending me or anything like that. You do make a good point.

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                                  No. I don't want children and I don't have any interest in fornication. I might consider adoption but I'm more partial to opening an orphanage. My only concern in this issue is for the children without families to be raised well.

                                  I agree too in an age limit around 18 or so. My reasoning is based upon the capacity of the girl to birth a child. Infant mortality rates are highest among young mothers. On top of that, marrying girls off upon reaching puberty seems to be treating them like cows or something. I had my first period at 7 and was fully developed by the age of 12, no way would I ever consider myself to be ready for marriage then, much less raising a family. I don't agree with men below the age of 18 getting married either because they moreso have to be financially stable. Therefore, the only eligible person to marry a 12 year old would be someone in his twenties. That makes the situation even more pathetic because he would have to interact with, essentially, a child. It's not paedophilia but I have a hard time taking any man who is attracted to someone so much younger than him seriously. It's different from a 25 year old woman with a 40 year old man, she at least is far more knowledgable than a 12 year old.

                                  Aside from that, I believe in the right of girls to have education and choices. An educated mother will raise educated children. That's what we need more of. I don't want the future to be full of poorly-educated people because these people will also impact MY future.

                                  You want to keep an orphanage? I thought marriage was created for those who worried about orphans.

                                  As for this age limit, where did it come from? I'm sure it didn't come from any research you did.

                                  Here's what my research gives. Menarchical female with post andropausal male. If the female has developed into the adolescent age, then with other adolescents.

                                  No man needs to be attracted to such a young female, the females of the parents push the relationship through (if the female has no complaints about it, and the male does not have any complaints). Normally parents would seek out a male that has wealth and good experience with his other wives.

                                  Education comes from teaching. I've learnt more from lecturing other people than from sitting in a school being told to conform to society's desires. And a woman's sustinance for learning is the responsibility of firstly her husban(who would technically be the closest male to her).

                                  As for women being too young, the sign is sexual desire...

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                                    srotu
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                                    I empathise with orphans, so I want to do the right thing simply because it is the right thing to do.

                                    Like I said, the age of 18 is normally when a person finishes formal education before being sent off to the university. This applies to most developed countries, you only need to read up on education systems for that. Also, I said around 18, I didn't say exactly 18.

                                    There is no sanctioned research on the 'eligibility of marriage' which is why I say that there obviously can be exceptions. However if the law itself, which was created to protect young women, states that one can only marry at a certain age, it should be obeyed failing which one just shows the lack of maturity regarding the matter. The age of marriage for Muslims here is 16, do I want to contest that? No. If they are younger and if the families are agreeable it is also allowed though it is not encouraged. This is because, as shown by research done in my country, underaged brides are more likely to divorce and raise latchkey kids than those who were more mature when they got married. 'Desire' is no barometer for readiness.

                                    And a woman's sustinance for learning is the responsibility of firstly her husban Where do you get that? It's highly unlikely that I will get married and I am responsible for my own learning. What, women are too dumb to think for themselves?

                                    In some other thread, you brought up Andrea Dworkin, I'm suprised that you read Dworkin, agree with her, but still subscribe to a partriarchal model.

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                                      TheNabi
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                                      Peace

                                      I do not want kids, nor do I want to fornicate, and I'm sort of anti-social. The criteria does not fit all of course, but we like to generalize cause it's easier to stuff ideas and concepts into one box, index, folder, or what have you.

                                      Joe

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                                        TheNabi
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                                        Peace

                                        It's different from a 25 year old woman with a 40 year old man, she at least is far more knowledgable than a 12 year old.

                                        Which 12 year old? Sometimes we accumulate junks and have 40 year old idiots.

                                        Joe

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                                          Real_Truth
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                                          Salam,

                                          A female should not get married before the age of 18 because it's her right to finish school and become full grown in her body.

                                          Maria

                                          Agreed unless she wants too.

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