philosophy...
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peace LP.
I understand why you said the above but this was not what I was after. I dont think this is like for like.
To me, thirst is a tangible/physical desire/feeling, that is natural, in-built, hard-wired... whilst the example you suggested just doesn't fall into the same category for me. What do you think?
I guess I wasn't in-depth enough, I guess you could say that the desire for the telegraph is like the natural desire of knowledge, to hear about more of the world in a shorter amount of time.
Telegraph in Arabic is "lightening"
Thats cool.
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peace all,
Q "If one thirsts*, does this imply the existence of water**?"
- a need/desire to drink
** or a fluid which quenches/resolves one's thirst
Discuss.
Thirst wouldnt exist if there is nothing to quenche.
A quenching fluid (commonly water) could(possiblity) exist regardless the desire to drink.
The desire's dependency to exist relies directly on the existance of a quenching fluid(water). A quenching fluid( water) is independent.
- a need/desire to drink
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Wakas-
in the case of spiritual seeking and striving, i feel the answer is certainly "yes". it seems like every few months an american magazine will have a front-page article on how God (or worship) is ingrained into our DNA. i would retreat back to more classical language and say it is woven into the fabric of our hearts, and that this itself is a clear sign to consider.
the "thirsty" analogy also brings to mind those Sufi poets who insisted that we thirst while unknowingly in front of a fresh-water ocean.
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Yes if one thirsts it implies the existence of something which can quench it. Common sense.
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Does God drink wine?
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Very interesting topic.
However, I don't fully understand it yet. Please explain it more.
No offence, I just want to learn. I wonder
-If one (many) longs for coming of the "mehdi", does he or his coming exist?
-Children long for santa-clause coming at night, does he exist? (Or their parents came instead?)
-Many people who believe in shamans or those type of doctors long for the help of one or more "sacred spirits", do they exit?
-Many long for the "king of kings, ...lion of judah" as in Rastafari, the long for God's coming as a living man, so does God's incarnate really exist or existed?
Please help clarify.
May God Guide.
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Very intereting topic.
However, I don't fully understand it yet. Please explain it more.
No offence, I just want to learn. I wonder
-If one (many) longs for coming of the "mehdi", does he or his coming exist?
-Children long for santa-clause coming at night, does he exist? (Or their parents came instead?)
-Many people who believe in shamans or those type of doctors long for the help of one or more "sacred spirits", do they exit?
-Many long for the "king of kings, ...lion of judah" as in Rastafari, the long for God's coming as a living man, so does God's incarnate really exist or existed?
Please help clarify.
May God Guide.
Those are all psychological/conceptual.
Thirst is tangible.
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Yes, actually, it does.
For one to thirst, one actually needs to need water, and be based on water, and well, all life is based on water.
Rephrased, yes, if a living being thirsts, then that implies the existance of water - not so much the thirst, but the living.
Let
Thirst = desires for water
(for clarity sake)Then
If a living being posses a desire for water, then that implies the existence of water within the living being's mindset.
Transposed to another context gives us
If a living being posses a desire for 'meeting with an alien / being from outer space'.
then that implies the existence of an alien/being from outer space within the living being's mindset.
It doesn't necessary imply that this alien/being from outer space does in reality exist.Salam / Peace