Great Isaiah Scroll
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Peace BelH,
Very good site. I agree that the Scrolls should be examined by people with Qur'aanic knowledge, and from what I briefly read of it so far, many of the books presented on the website seem to be very consistent with the knowledge in the scriptures... What's your take on the Dead Sea Scrolls? Do you have an opinion regarding the Scrolls of Abraham (mentioned in the Qur'aan)? Do they still exist, and could parts of them be contained within the Dead Sea Scrolls?
Peace,
Ahmad
Peace
So far, I believe these are the Books that God mentioned in Quran; moreover, I believe that God wants us to study these books in order to know the wisdom of these magnificent prophets in confronting the Lies of the Religious Lords. And when you analyze what we are going through today, when confronting the Lies of the religious Lords and their students (slaves), you will note that you are doing the same duties as these great People.
When I read through the Posts (in Free Minds) of those who confronted their people, and the suffering they are experiencing due to their courage, I feel that God will have to give victory to them...932 They want to extinguish God?s light with their mouths, but God refuses such and lets His light continue, even if the rejecters hate it.
Here another verse from Quran that talks about those who reject the Torah and Injeel
2113 And the Jews said ?The Nazarenes have no basis,? and the Nazarenes said ?The Jews have no basis,? while they are both reciting the Scripture! Similarly, those who do not know have said the same thing. God will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection in what they disputed.
May God Increase the Wisdom and Knowledge of Those who are seeking it.
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Peace BelH,
What's your take on the Dead Sea Scrolls? Do you have an opinion regarding the Scrolls of Abraham (mentioned in the Qur'aan)? Do they still exist, and could parts of them be contained within the Dead Sea Scrolls?
Peace Ahamed
When I was reading through one of Najhammadi Scroll (http//www.v-a.com/bible/mark_1-4.html#MARK1) I noted thisBegin Quote
- The beginning of the Revelation* of Jesus Christ
- As it was written by Isaiah the Prophet, that,
End Quote
Is this mean that Isaiah is a Prophet who Wrote Jesus Bible...Is Isaiah "Yahiah" ?
Is the Scroll of Isiah = the Bible of Jesus?what do you think?
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Peace BelH,
When I was reading through one of Najhammadi Scroll (http//www.v-a.com/bible/mark_1-4.html#MARK1) I noted this
Begin Quote
- The beginning of the Revelation* of Jesus Christ
- As it was written by Isaiah the Prophet, that,
End Quote
Is this mean that Isaiah is a Prophet who Wrote Jesus Bible...Is Isaiah "Yahiah" ?
Is the Scroll of Isiah = the Bible of Jesus?what do you think?
I never noticed this before...
Based on this writing, I think this is very possible, and the Injeel may possibly be the scrolls of Isaiyah; but this depends on certain conditions. As already mentioned, the names "Isaiyah" and "Yahoshua" have nearly identical Hebrew meanings (i.e. G-d's salvation; G-d's aid)... This is interesting too, considering the fact that the Biblical "new testament" often speaks of Jesus quoting from the writings of Isaiyah throughout his ministry. In fact, other than the Torah, this is the ONLY book he is recorded as quoting from. So, maybe this is the reference in the Qur'aan where he is mentioned as being taught the Torah and the Injeel...
Now, the question arises Was Jesus sent the scrolls of Isaiyah, or was this a characteristic of something else? Or even more questionable Is the Qur'aanic person "Esa" the same person as the Biblical person "Jesus"?
Peace,
Ahmad
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Peace BelH,
I never noticed this before...
Based on this writing, I think this is very possible, and the Injeel may possibly be the scrolls of Isaiyah; but this depends on certain conditions. As already mentioned, the names "Isaiyah" and "Yahoshua" have nearly identical Hebrew meanings (i.e. G-d's salvation; G-d's aid)... This is interesting too, considering the fact that the Biblical "new testament" often speaks of Jesus quoting from the writings of Isaiyah throughout his ministry. In fact, other than the Torah, this is the ONLY book he is recorded as quoting from. So, maybe this is the reference in the Qur'aan where he is mentioned as being taught the Torah and the Injeel...
Now, the question arises Was Jesus sent the scrolls of Isaiyah, or was this a characteristic of something else? Or even more questionable Is the Qur'aanic person "Esa" the same person as the Biblical person "Jesus"?
Peace,
Ahmad
Peace Ahamed
Acording to Quran, Yahia the Son of Zakaria was a prophet during the Christ time...moreover, he received Revelation from God. Here is a question, why God would send two different revealtion in one time period to the same people? The logic answer would be is that Yahia and Jesus were teaching from the same source and from the same revelation--THE INJEEL AND TORAH.For the next question, yes, Isa, the son of Mariam is Jesus Christ, according to Quran.
Peace
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Hi,
but in arabic Isae is much closer to Issa
and Yeshua will be closer to Yahya.Don't you think?
Will it be possible that we just thought it the other way around, in any case both Issa and Yahya were messengers and prophetes.
God bless
Peace
I agree about the names issue, but I disagree about that both were Messengers and Prophets.
According to Quran, Isa was a Messenger and Yahya was a Prophet.
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Peace BelH,
Acording to Quran, Yahia the Son of Zakaria was a prophet during the Christ time...moreover, he received Revelation from God. Here is a question, why God would send two different revealtion in one time period to the same people? The logic answer would be is that Yahia and Jesus were teaching from the same source and from the same revelation--THE INJEEL AND TORAH.
For the next question, yes, Isa, the son of Mariam is Jesus Christ, according to Quran.
Well, that's something I never really considered. Is "Esa" (Jesus) called a "prophet" in the Qur'aan, or is he just called a messenger? Since the prophets received scriptures, or wrote their own revelations with divine inspiration, then Jesus would have to be a prophet if he received the Injeel. However, if he only received the Injeel through another prophet, then this would only make him a messenger, one who simply confirms the scripture and doesn't receive one of his own... I believe the scriptures call Jesus as prophet, meaning he actually received the Injeel himself...
Peace,
Ahmad
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Peace BelH,
Well, that's something I never really considered. Is "Esa" (Jesus) called a "prophet" in the Qur'aan, or is he just called a messenger? Since the prophets received scriptures, or wrote their own revelations with divine inspiration, then Jesus would have to be a prophet if he received the Injeel. However, if he only received the Injeel through another prophet, then this would only make him a messenger, one who simply confirms the scripture and doesn't receive one of his own... I believe the scriptures call Jesus as prophet, meaning he actually received the Injeel himself...
Peace,
Ahmad
Peace
According to my reading in Quran, Jesus was never called a prophet but Messenger.
Moreover, Jesus was GIVEN the Injeel, as was Mosses GIVEN the Torah, and not SENT DOWN into him according to Quran.
For further backup information, please review thishttp//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598139.0
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According to my reading in Quran, Jesus was never called a prophet but Messenger.
I was listening while reading; scroll to minute 657...
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5aIi3OqOJU
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He said "That I am God's worshipper, He gave me The Book and He made me a prophet."
A very familiar verse.
Peace
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I was listening while reading; scroll to minute 657...
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5aIi3OqOJU
1930
He said "That I am God's worshipper, He gave me The Book and He made me a prophet."
A very familiar verse.
Peace
Peace
Thank you for pointing this verse; thus, according to Quran, Jesus was a Prophet and a Messenger.
Thank you again.
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Peace all,
What is most puzzling that God taught Jesus the Book, the Wisdom, the Torah and the Injeel but taught Mohammed the Book and the Wisdom only. The Book that was taught to Mohammed is a confirmation of what was brought by Moses and taught to Jesus. The Wisdom could be the criterion or what the Jews call the Mitzva or the Negative commandments that can be carried out on a personal level. Then it gets more problematic when you put the Quran in, what is the relation of the Book to the Quran? Who includes who? What are the seven pairs? What is the Torah and what is the Injeel and why were they not taught to the people around the ancient house?
Peace,
Rami