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    Q_student
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    Salamun alaykum

    If you are all confused about 'how to perform your ritual prayers' or what is commonly called "salat" then why not learn about it first from the Qur'an ?

    Dear Brother
    Are you sure people are confused about salaat ?
    Regards

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      nsws1988
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      Dear Brother
      Are you sure people are confused about salaat ?
      Regards

      Yep. Read my first post. Im confused

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        Peace Q_s

        "Dear Brother
        Are you sure people are confused about salaat ?"

        "If you are all confused about 'how to perform your ritual prayers' or what is commonly called "salat" then why not learn about it first from the Qur'an ?" .

        Please note the "If" at the beginning of the sentence and read other posters comments before you plunge in with your question Brother regarding the topic of the thread . If you have something enlightening to contribute please do so . Thank you .

        Peace

        almarh0m

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          drfazl
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          do i have to pray 5 thmes or 3 times? confused

          Brother,

          Contact prayer means having to maintain contact with Allah all the time through His Remembrance for His Bounties, for His Forgiveness, for His Wisdom, for His Provision, for His Peace, for His ... endless Mercy

          You do not make a mockery of salat by following the people; what the people follow is a physical one as if they physically have contact with Allah whenever they stand for prayer. Never follow the people of yesterday, today or tomorrow. Never follow the majority; even 2 is majority. So each of you stand all alone with Allah without committing shirk following the damned imams; follow only Allah; this is getting in connection with Allah for all our needs; and we are in need all the time! This is contact prayer.

          Peace.

          .

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            Q_student
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            Peace Q_s

            "Dear Brother
            Are you sure people are confused about salaat ?"

            "If you are all confused about 'how to perform your ritual prayers' or what is commonly called "salat" then why not learn about it first from the Qur'an ?" .

            Please note the "If" at the beginning of the sentence and read other posters comments before you plunge in with your question Brother regarding the topic of the thread . If you have something enlightening to contribute please do so . Thank you .

            Peace

            almarh0m

            Peace
            IF there is confusion then why it is so ??

            Regards

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              nsws1988
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              Peace
              IF there is confusion then why it is so ??

              Regards

              Salam

              Because we are trying to breakaway from traditionalism and follow the Quran alone but everyone here has their own understanding of what salat is. Some of us, including myself, are newbies so we haven't studied the Quran and don't know where to start and would appreciate some help.
              At the mo, I am still praying traditionally except I don't use the prophet Mohammed's name, I say the God-alone shahada instead of the tashahud and I only read al-fatiha as I do not know any other surahs that can be read to God (I mean reading "Lo! We have given thee Abundance" to God seems strange)

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                Q_student
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                Salam

                Because we are trying to breakaway from traditionalism and follow the Quran alone but everyone here has their own understanding of what salat is. Some of us, including myself, are newbies so we haven't studied the Quran and don't know where to start and would appreciate some help.
                At the mo, I am still praying traditionally except I don't use the prophet Mohammed's name, I say the God-alone shahada instead of the tashahud and I only read al-fatiha as I do not know any other surahs that can be read to God (I mean reading "Lo! We have given thee Abundance" to God seems strange)

                DEar Brother
                If in the presence of Quran which is
                -easy
                -detailed
                -True
                ,you cannot get the actual Salaat way ,consult some expert. Eat two -three almonds daily. Massage of almond oil on the head will also help.
                Regards

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                  nsws1988
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                  Eat two -three almonds daily. Massage of almond oil on the head will also help.

                  Huh?!

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                    MUNZIR_ALI
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                    ??? i am still confused!!

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                      Q_student
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                      ??? i am still confused!!

                      Dear Brother
                      Use the same recipe which I told nsws.Inshallah it will help.
                      Regards

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                        nsws1988
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                        Dear Brother
                        Use the same recipe which I told nsws.Inshallah it will help.
                        Regards

                        Peace

                        How are almonds going to help?

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                          Q_student
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                          Peace

                          How are almonds going to help?

                          Dear Brother
                          I think they affect the brain. It is my personal experience. Someone told me and I used them.
                          Regards

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                            nsws1988
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                            Dear Brother
                            I think they affect the brain. It is my personal experience. Someone told me and I used them.
                            Regards

                            Salam Q student

                            I'm a sister

                            I would consult an expert if I knew one. A scholar would tell me to pray traditionally and add Prophet Mohammed's name to my salat. And possibly tell me off for asking a stupid question and that I should eat 3 dates so that God will forgive me laugh

                            The reason why I am confused is because some people here believe that prayer is traditional but without Prophet Mohammed's name (which is how I am doing it now after years of saying the Prophet's name in the tashahud), some say it doesn't involve bowing/prostrating physically, some say you should bow and prostrate physically but anytime during the salat. The third makes more sense to me as I find it hard seeing salat as a ritual that everyone does the same. It should be personal. But at the same time how can we do congregational salat if everyone is doing it their own way?

                            By the way, my brain is fine thank you very much

                            God bless

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                              Salam Q student

                              I'm a sister

                              I would consult an expert if I knew one. A scholar would tell me to pray traditionally and add Prophet Mohammed's name to my salat. And possibly tell me off for asking a stupid question and that I should eat 3 dates so that God will forgive me laugh

                              The reason why I am confused is because some people here believe that prayer is traditional but without Prophet Mohammed's name (which is how I am doing it now after years of saying the Prophet's name in the tashahud), some say it doesn't involve bowing/prostrating physically, some say you should bow and prostrate physically but anytime during the salat. The third makes more sense to me as I find it hard seeing salat as a ritual that everyone does the same. It should be personal. But at the same time how can we do congregational salat if everyone is doing it their own way?

                              By the way, my brain is fine thank you very much

                              God bless

                              Salaam sister
                              I am sorry I did not know that you are a sister. Secondly your questions are a bit natural. I myself in that learning category. So both of us ,brother and sister are in the same boat. May Allah help both of us to understand the Quran.
                              Once more I am sorry
                              Regards

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                                nsws1988
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                                Salaam sister
                                I am sorry I did not know that you are a sister. Secondly your questions are a bit natural. I myself in that learning category. So both of us ,brother and sister are in the same boat. May Allah help both of us to understand the Quran.
                                Once more I am sorry
                                Regards

                                Peace,

                                Don't worry about it

                                God bless

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                                  Wakas
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                                  peace nsws,

                                  Any update on this?

                                  All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                    nsws1988
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                                    peace nsws,

                                    Any update on this?

                                    Peace Wakas,

                                    Probably more confused than before. But God willing, I'll get there. I'm leaning more and more away from the traditional concept that's for sure.

                                    Thanks for asking.

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                                      herbman
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                                      Peace Wakas,

                                      Probably more confused than before. But God willing, I'll get there. I'm leaning more and more away from the traditional concept that's for sure.

                                      Thanks for asking.

                                      Peace,

                                      have you read this, http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602248.0, it might help you!

                                      salam

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                                        Rana
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                                        I thought it was 5 but now i think it is 3 so im just confused about the timings now! also where the qiblah is
                                        ???

                                        Yeah me too, I eventually came to three. I thank God too because when I believed it was 5 I spent a lot of time feeling bad that I wasn't doing five. Not that I always do the three either tempt But it's more doable for me and it seems to be backed by Quran.

                                        I have felt that confusion re Salat too because there are so many interpretations. I have scoured the forum and read many articles. In the end I did just try and turn to Al Quran and make my own decision.

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                                          nsws1988
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                                          Peace,

                                          have you read this, http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602248.0, it might help you!

                                          salam

                                          Thanks!

                                          This thread makes me feel old (

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