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    No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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    AHA just what I was looking for ;D
    Thanks for that
    I'm still curious as to why some perform salat 3 times instead of 5 times. I think I'll have a read through the forums.
    Thank you

    No problem,
    I was also at the stage of confusion as to whether it is 3 or 5 times. Not anymore though, because now I know/think that it is 5.

    Peace

    I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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      nsws1988
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      No problem,
      I was also at the stage of confusion as to whether it is 3 or 5 times. Not anymore though, because now I know/think that it is 5.

      Peace

      I thought it was 5 but now i think it is 3 so im just confused about the timings now! also where the qiblah is
      ???

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        Cushan
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        Don't let someone else tell you what sala is, how to pray to God. Whatever doesn't contradict the Quran is right. Pray one hundred times a day if you want to.

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          herbman
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          Salam,

          I think we were all confused in the begining, but Hamdoulah/Praise to God, with the help of all the brothers here, even if some interpretations are totally opposite, one can make his/her own idea.
          Yes sunni way to pray is valid, I still do it same way without the "Amine" at the end of el fatiha, and without the "salat ala nabi (tahiya)".
          I am convinced Coran mention 3 salats, but still can pray 5 when I can (e.g. week-ends).

          Hope it helps

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            almarh0m
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            Salamun alaykum

            If you are all confused about 'how to perform your ritual prayers' or what is commonly called "salat" then why not learn about it first from the Qur'an ? I am sure that you have all read or know about 1736 .......So before we do anything that we think of as good deeds and a command from god , shouldn't we first learn all about it ? Let's see what the verse says .

            " And follow not that of which you have not the knowledge; surely the hearing and the sight and the heart, all of these, shall be questioned about that " (1736 ) .

            As to the the reason why we perform 'Salat' is ....this verse

            " Surely I am Allah, there is no god but I, therefore serve Me and keep up prayer for My remembrance " ( 2014 ) .

            The verse is clear enough to understand that 'Salat' is for rememberance of god , however it does not tell us how to perform this supposedly "ritual prayers" , so for me , the best course to take is study about 'what salat is all about first' from the Qur'an , before I would do it . To continue doing salat as per "Pre-Qur'anic" knowledge " of it is not consistent with the purpose of learning The Qur'an , obeying god and following what the messenger himself followed , e.g. the qur'an .

            My own experience when I switched from being a " Muhammadan" to god only according to Qur'an was , I suspended performing the ritual prayers until I could be certain that everything I read during ritual salat was 100% Qur'an and consistent with this verse

            " Recite that which has been revealed to you of the Book and keep up prayer; surely prayer keeps (one) away from indecency and evil, and certainly the remembrance of Allah is the greatest, and Allah knows what you do " ( 2945 ) .

            I think that the best thing to do while you are 'confused' is to discard all the previous knowledge acquired through brain washing and start fresh with your newly self-acquired knowledge from The Qur'an and your understanding of it , after all you are the one who will be responsible to god for your own actions / deeds .

            Peace

            almarh0m

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              MUNZIR_ALI
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              do i have to pray 5 thmes or 3 times? confused

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                Q_student
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                Salamun alaykum

                If you are all confused about 'how to perform your ritual prayers' or what is commonly called "salat" then why not learn about it first from the Qur'an ?

                Dear Brother
                Are you sure people are confused about salaat ?
                Regards

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                  nsws1988
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                  Dear Brother
                  Are you sure people are confused about salaat ?
                  Regards

                  Yep. Read my first post. Im confused

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                    almarh0m
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                    Peace Q_s

                    "Dear Brother
                    Are you sure people are confused about salaat ?"

                    "If you are all confused about 'how to perform your ritual prayers' or what is commonly called "salat" then why not learn about it first from the Qur'an ?" .

                    Please note the "If" at the beginning of the sentence and read other posters comments before you plunge in with your question Brother regarding the topic of the thread . If you have something enlightening to contribute please do so . Thank you .

                    Peace

                    almarh0m

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                      drfazl
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                      do i have to pray 5 thmes or 3 times? confused

                      Brother,

                      Contact prayer means having to maintain contact with Allah all the time through His Remembrance for His Bounties, for His Forgiveness, for His Wisdom, for His Provision, for His Peace, for His ... endless Mercy

                      You do not make a mockery of salat by following the people; what the people follow is a physical one as if they physically have contact with Allah whenever they stand for prayer. Never follow the people of yesterday, today or tomorrow. Never follow the majority; even 2 is majority. So each of you stand all alone with Allah without committing shirk following the damned imams; follow only Allah; this is getting in connection with Allah for all our needs; and we are in need all the time! This is contact prayer.

                      Peace.

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                        Q_student
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                        Peace Q_s

                        "Dear Brother
                        Are you sure people are confused about salaat ?"

                        "If you are all confused about 'how to perform your ritual prayers' or what is commonly called "salat" then why not learn about it first from the Qur'an ?" .

                        Please note the "If" at the beginning of the sentence and read other posters comments before you plunge in with your question Brother regarding the topic of the thread . If you have something enlightening to contribute please do so . Thank you .

                        Peace

                        almarh0m

                        Peace
                        IF there is confusion then why it is so ??

                        Regards

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                          nsws1988
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                          Peace
                          IF there is confusion then why it is so ??

                          Regards

                          Salam

                          Because we are trying to breakaway from traditionalism and follow the Quran alone but everyone here has their own understanding of what salat is. Some of us, including myself, are newbies so we haven't studied the Quran and don't know where to start and would appreciate some help.
                          At the mo, I am still praying traditionally except I don't use the prophet Mohammed's name, I say the God-alone shahada instead of the tashahud and I only read al-fatiha as I do not know any other surahs that can be read to God (I mean reading "Lo! We have given thee Abundance" to God seems strange)

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                            Salam

                            Because we are trying to breakaway from traditionalism and follow the Quran alone but everyone here has their own understanding of what salat is. Some of us, including myself, are newbies so we haven't studied the Quran and don't know where to start and would appreciate some help.
                            At the mo, I am still praying traditionally except I don't use the prophet Mohammed's name, I say the God-alone shahada instead of the tashahud and I only read al-fatiha as I do not know any other surahs that can be read to God (I mean reading "Lo! We have given thee Abundance" to God seems strange)

                            DEar Brother
                            If in the presence of Quran which is
                            -easy
                            -detailed
                            -True
                            ,you cannot get the actual Salaat way ,consult some expert. Eat two -three almonds daily. Massage of almond oil on the head will also help.
                            Regards

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                              nsws1988
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                              Eat two -three almonds daily. Massage of almond oil on the head will also help.

                              Huh?!

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                                MUNZIR_ALI
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                                ??? i am still confused!!

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                                  Q_student
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                                  ??? i am still confused!!

                                  Dear Brother
                                  Use the same recipe which I told nsws.Inshallah it will help.
                                  Regards

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                                    nsws1988
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                                    Dear Brother
                                    Use the same recipe which I told nsws.Inshallah it will help.
                                    Regards

                                    Peace

                                    How are almonds going to help?

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                                      Q_student
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                                      Peace

                                      How are almonds going to help?

                                      Dear Brother
                                      I think they affect the brain. It is my personal experience. Someone told me and I used them.
                                      Regards

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                                        nsws1988
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                                        Dear Brother
                                        I think they affect the brain. It is my personal experience. Someone told me and I used them.
                                        Regards

                                        Salam Q student

                                        I'm a sister

                                        I would consult an expert if I knew one. A scholar would tell me to pray traditionally and add Prophet Mohammed's name to my salat. And possibly tell me off for asking a stupid question and that I should eat 3 dates so that God will forgive me laugh

                                        The reason why I am confused is because some people here believe that prayer is traditional but without Prophet Mohammed's name (which is how I am doing it now after years of saying the Prophet's name in the tashahud), some say it doesn't involve bowing/prostrating physically, some say you should bow and prostrate physically but anytime during the salat. The third makes more sense to me as I find it hard seeing salat as a ritual that everyone does the same. It should be personal. But at the same time how can we do congregational salat if everyone is doing it their own way?

                                        By the way, my brain is fine thank you very much

                                        God bless

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                                          Q_student
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                                          Salam Q student

                                          I'm a sister

                                          I would consult an expert if I knew one. A scholar would tell me to pray traditionally and add Prophet Mohammed's name to my salat. And possibly tell me off for asking a stupid question and that I should eat 3 dates so that God will forgive me laugh

                                          The reason why I am confused is because some people here believe that prayer is traditional but without Prophet Mohammed's name (which is how I am doing it now after years of saying the Prophet's name in the tashahud), some say it doesn't involve bowing/prostrating physically, some say you should bow and prostrate physically but anytime during the salat. The third makes more sense to me as I find it hard seeing salat as a ritual that everyone does the same. It should be personal. But at the same time how can we do congregational salat if everyone is doing it their own way?

                                          By the way, my brain is fine thank you very much

                                          God bless

                                          Salaam sister
                                          I am sorry I did not know that you are a sister. Secondly your questions are a bit natural. I myself in that learning category. So both of us ,brother and sister are in the same boat. May Allah help both of us to understand the Quran.
                                          Once more I am sorry
                                          Regards

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