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Do you believe hijab is mandatory?

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    Q_student
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    #75

    Where's the word /alnaseef in this quote? Do you understand now why i "intentionally" left this Misbaah Muneer? Because it's just saying "alkhimar is a cloth with which a woman covers her head...".
    I know what naseef is, do you? So far you did not bring any meaning for al naseef.

    Dear Sister
    YOU accepted the reason for avoiding this dictionary ,Thanks.
    yay yay rotfl

    Regards

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      savage_carrot
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      Q_student, it's amazing how intentionally (or otherwise) dense you are playing this.

      You probably do not know what "Naseef " is

      Where's the word /alnaseef in this quote? So far you did not bring any meaning for al naseef.

      YOU accepted the reason for avoiding this dictionary ,Thanks.

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        Q_student
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        Q_student, it's amazing how intentionally (or otherwise) dense you are playing this.

        )

        Peace
        Read the whole thread and see the "Amount of Evidenc" I have produced from Arabic and Arabic English dictionary.

        Regards

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          Wakas
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          peace,

          Qstudent, you may have some use.

          Would you be so kind as to clarify the following from Classical Arabic dictionaries

          1. Do any say that the plural "khumur" can mean anything other than "headcovers (plural)".

          2. What meanings do they give for "khimirr" (which, as far as I'm aware "khumur" can be a plural for).

          3. Do any of them make reference to the traditional ahadith mentioned by Ibn Kathir? e.g. www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=24&tid=35857

          I have even numbered the questions to make it easy for you. Thanks.

          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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            Q_student
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            peace,

            Qstudent, you may have some use.

            Would you be so kind as to clarify the following from Classical Arabic dictionaries

            1. Do any say that the plural "khumur" can mean anything other than "headcovers (plural)".

            2. What meanings do they give for "khimirr" (which, as far as I'm aware "khumur" can be a plural for).

            3. Do any of them make reference to the traditional ahadith mentioned by Ibn Kathir? e.g. www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=24&tid=35857

            I have even numbered the questions to make it easy for you. Thanks.

            Peace Brother
            Please Consult Lane's lexicon under Khimaar, you will get answer of all of your questions.
            Regards

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              Wakas
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              peace Qstudent,

              That's not what I asked, so that doesn't help.

              All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                MUNZIR_ALI
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                #81

                check this site

                http//www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=210776

                the complete opposite of freeminds! laugh

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                  Q_student
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                  peace Qstudent,

                  That's not what I asked, so that doesn't help.

                  Peace
                  If such a clear statement does not help you ,then how can I help you.

                  Regards

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                    No longer a Sunna-rejecter
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #83

                    peace Qstudent,

                    That's not what I asked, so that doesn't help.

                    Peace,

                    effort in = benefit out rotfl ;D

                    As for my personal opinion about "hijab", is that it is not mandatory.
                    Remember "...The best garment of righteousnes is the best..." (726)

                    I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                      TheNabi
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                      Peace Q_student,

                      Please Consult Lane's lexicon under Khimaar, you will get answer of all of your questions

                      I asked you in the circumcision thread to look at other opinions and you demanded that I look to and bring references. Now when you're asked the very same thing you ask me, that is to bring evidence from references you scoff at the idea that someone should ask you that? Isn't that hypocrisy? You were asked to bring certain evidence from lexicons and then you throw it back in the face of Wakas and say, "no you go look". Sounds to me you have a problem with other people's evidence and think yours alone is the truth.

                      Joe

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                        TheNabi
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                        Peace

                        then how can I help you

                        Do what he asked of you like I did what you asked of me in the circumcision thread. Although it bore no fruit since you rejected the opposing evidence to your ideas of the truth. Even still I cited and posted references.

                        Joe

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                          YAYA
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                          #86

                          IF YOU DONT PUT ON THE HIJAB, YOU DONT HAVE TO BE KILLED, YOU HAVE KILLED YOURSELF
                          ALLAHU ALAMU

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                            MUNZIR_ALI
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                            #87

                            IF YOU DONT PUT ON THE HIJAB, YOU DONT HAVE TO BE KILLED, YOU HAVE KILLED YOURSELF
                            ALLAHU ALAMU

                            I didn't get what you said

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                              yeshuahamashiach
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                              weird ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

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                                nsws1988
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                                IF YOU DONT PUT ON THE HIJAB, YOU DONT HAVE TO BE KILLED, YOU HAVE KILLED YOURSELF
                                ALLAHU ALAMU

                                Suicide? ???

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                                  YAYA
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                                  Suicide? ???

                                  ALL WHAT WE ARE DOING IS FOR A AIM, WHAT IS THE AIM?
                                  WE ARE ALL SEEKING PARADISE
                                  AND THE QURAN YOU SAID IS SUFFICIENT HAVE AUTHORISED THE WOMEN TO ALWAYS PUT ON THEIR HIJAB
                                  THUS, IF THEY DONT THEY WOUNT GET KILLED FOR THEIR ACTION, BUT THEY HAVE KILLED THEMSELVE (THEY HAVE GONE CONTRARY TO THE WILL OF GOD, AND THAT BRINGS PUNISHMENT UPON THEM)
                                  ALLAHU ALAMU pr

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                                    No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                                    ALL WHAT WE ARE DOING IS FOR A AIM, WHAT IS THE AIM?
                                    WE ARE ALL SEEKING PARADISE
                                    AND THE QURAN YOU SAID IS SUFFICIENT HAVE AUTHORISED THE WOMEN TO ALWAYS PUT ON THEIR HIJAB
                                    THUS, IF THEY DONT THEY WOUNT GET KILLED FOR THEIR ACTION, BUT THEY HAVE KILLED THEMSELVE (THEY HAVE GONE CONTRARY TO THE WILL OF GOD, AND THAT BRINGS PUNISHMENT UPON THEM)
                                    ALLAHU ALAMU pr

                                    Bring your evidence from the Quran

                                    I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                                      MUNZIR_ALI
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                                      ALL WHAT WE ARE DOING IS FOR A AIM, WHAT IS THE AIM?
                                      WE ARE ALL SEEKING PARADISE
                                      AND THE QURAN YOU SAID IS SUFFICIENT HAVE AUTHORISED THE WOMEN TO ALWAYS PUT ON THEIR HIJAB
                                      THUS, IF THEY DONT THEY WOUNT GET KILLED FOR THEIR ACTION, BUT THEY HAVE KILLED THEMSELVE (THEY HAVE GONE CONTRARY TO THE WILL OF GOD, AND THAT BRINGS PUNISHMENT UPON THEM)
                                      ALLAHU ALAMU pr

                                      The will of god is the quran right? I don't see any verse saying that the hijab is required for women!

                                      peace

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                                        nsws1988
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                                        #93

                                        ALL WHAT WE ARE DOING IS FOR A AIM, WHAT IS THE AIM?
                                        WE ARE ALL SEEKING PARADISE
                                        AND THE QURAN YOU SAID IS SUFFICIENT HAVE AUTHORISED THE WOMEN TO ALWAYS PUT ON THEIR HIJAB
                                        THUS, IF THEY DONT THEY WOUNT GET KILLED FOR THEIR ACTION, BUT THEY HAVE KILLED THEMSELVE (THEY HAVE GONE CONTRARY TO THE WILL OF GOD, AND THAT BRINGS PUNISHMENT UPON THEM)
                                        ALLAHU ALAMU pr

                                        Quranic proof please?

                                        What would be the reason of a headcover anyway? There are reasons for all of God's rules.

                                        Peace

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                                          YAYA
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                                          Quranic proof please?

                                          What would be the reason of a headcover anyway? There are reasons for all of God's rules.

                                          Peace

                                          The Qur'an lays down the principle of the law of modesty. In Surah 24 An-Nur 30 and 31, modesty is enjoined both upon Muslim men and Muslim women 4

                                          Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty that will make for Greater purity for them And God is Well-acquainted with all that they do. And say to the believing women That they should lower their gaze And guard their modesty and they should not display beauty and ornaments expect what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that They must draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husband's sons, or their women, or their slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their ornaments.

                                          The Qur'an advises the wives of the Prophet (SAS) to go veiled (33 59).

                                          In Surah 24 31(Ayah), the Qur'an advises women to cover their "adornments" from strangers outside the family. In the traditional and modern Arab societies women at home dress quite differently compared to what they wear in the streets. In this verse of the Qur'an, it refers to the institution of a new public modesty rather than veiling the face.

                                          One of the verses in the Qur'an protects a woman's fundamental rights. Aya 59 from Sura al-Ahzab reads

                                          O Prophet! Tell Thy wives And daughters, and the Believing women, that They should cast their Outer garments over Their Persons (when outside) That they should be known (As such) and not Molested.

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