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    Q_student
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    Peace Q_student,

    This was already discussed and the fact that the usage and examples given in the dictionary in relation to the rubbing of the thigh and the redness of the eyes confirm that the connotation of red color is present and as you admitted, the first thing that happens is that the eyes become red.

    Proper names are not "diptote" and the vocalization marks are manmade lies that are not part of the original text of the great reading. For example, Thamud is not diptote. It is diptote one time and "triptote" another. The inconsistencies occur in the accusative because the vocalizers couldn't delete the Alif but could insert their false vocalization marks.

    Peace,

    Ayman

    Peace
    Would you please copy paste the verse in which it is (thamud) used as "triptote" ?
    Regards

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      Peace Q_student,

      Would you please copy paste the verse in which it is (thamud) used as "triptote" ?

      Better yet, here are scanned images directly from the Quran

      1168
      http//www.salamiran.org/Religion/Quran/PAGE229.GIF

      2538
      http//www.salamiran.org/Religion/Quran/PAGE363.GIF

      2938
      http//www.salamiran.org/Religion/Quran/PAGE399.GIF

      5351
      http//www.salamiran.org/Religion/Quran/PAGE527.GIF

      Please note that Thamud has a final Alif as "Thamudaa" in all those passages. In fact, in 1168 it is spelled both with a final Alif and without in the same verse. Notice that all those inconsistencies appear in the accusative because vocalizers couldn't delete the final Alif from the text but could freely adjust their invented vocalization marks. Unfortunately, just like 19ers, some so-called Islamic web sites have taken it upon themselves to delete the Alif and correct the god's words

      http//www.al-islam.org/quran/process.asp?tArabic=on&Sura=11&SavedSura=1&fAya=68&tAya=68&searchText=&arabicdisplay=windows

      So it is better if you look at an actual scanned copy.

      Peace,

      Ayman

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        Peace Q_student,

        Better yet, here are scanned images directly from the Quran

        1168
        http//www.salamiran.org/Religion/Quran/PAGE229.GIF

        2538
        http//www.salamiran.org/Religion/Quran/PAGE363.GIF

        2938
        http//www.salamiran.org/Religion/Quran/PAGE399.GIF

        5351
        http//www.salamiran.org/Religion/Quran/PAGE527.GIF

        Please note that Thamud has a final Alif as "Thamudaa" in all those passages. In fact, in 1168 it is spelled both with a final Alif and without in the same verse. Notice that all those inconsistencies appear in the accusative because vocalizers couldn't delete the final Alif from the text but could freely adjust their invented vocalization marks. Unfortunately, just like 19ers, some so-called Islamic web sites have taken it upon themselves to delete the Alif and correct the god's words

        http//www.al-islam.org/quran/process.asp?tArabic=on&Sura=11&SavedSura=1&fAya=68&tAya=68&searchText=&arabicdisplay=windows

        So it is better if you look at an actual scanned copy.

        Peace,

        Ayman

        Dear Brother
        These are your quoted verses

        (67)

        These examples of yours show that you do not know even what diptote and triptote is .
        In all of these verses it is used as "Diptote"
        May ask you what are diptote and triptotes ?
        I was not expecting such type of ignorance from a person who belongs to an Arabi speaking country (If I am not wrong).Is Arabic not taught over there ?
        Regards

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          ayman
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          Peace Q_student,

          These are your quoted verses
          (67)

          These examples of yours show that you do not know even what diptote and triptote is .
          In all of these verses it is used as "Diptote"
          May ask you what are diptote and triptotes ?
          I was not expecting such type of ignorance from a person who belongs to an Arabi speaking country (If I am not wrong).Is Arabic not taught over there ?

          Can't you read? If you can then why are you playing stupid? You and whoever you copied from is a liar who deleted the Alif from . See the scanned pages that I provided and tell me, do you see an Alif? YES or NO. There is no third choice so don't keep lying.

          Peace,

          Ayman

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            Peace Q_student,

            Can't you read? If you can then why are you playing stupid? You and whoever you copied from is a liar who deleted the Alif from . See the scanned pages that I provided and tell me, do you see an Alif? YES or NO. There is no third choice so don't keep lying.

            Peace,

            Ayman

            Dear Brother
            I have asked you what are diptotes and triptotes. Give me their definitions and their signs to recognize them with EVIDENCE. Do not talk like illiterate persons.I am 100% sure that you do not know about diptotes and triptotes.Define them with evidence.Presence or absence of alif is never a Sign of Diptote.It shows your ignorance.
            Regards

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              ayman
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              Peace Q_student,

              I have asked you what are diptotes and triptotes. Give me their definitions and their signs to recognize them with EVIDENCE. Do not talk like illiterate persons.I am 100% sure that you do not know about diptotes and triptotes.Define them with evidence.Presence or absence of alif is never a Sign of Diptote.It shows your ignorance.

              I asked you a simple YES or NO question. Just answer instead of spewing out your usual crap.

              Peace,

              Ayman

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                Peace Q_student,

                I asked you a simple YES or NO question. Just answer instead of spewing out your usual crap.

                Peace,

                Ayman

                Dear Brother
                These are not signs of diptote or triptote. Please give me the definition of Diptotes and Triptote and what are signs used to recognize "DIPTOTE", then you will see what blunders you are comitting. Please also provide Evidence for the signs of DIPTOTES.
                Regards

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                  ayman
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                  These are not signs of diptote or triptote. Please give me the definition of Diptotes and Triptote and what are signs used to recognize "DIPTOTE", then you will see what blunders you are comitting. Please also provide Evidence for the signs of DIPTOTES.

                  No matter what you think, do you admit that there is an Alif in Thamudaa in the passages that I quoted? YES or NO.

                  Speak the truth and don't be a coward and a liar.

                  Peace,

                  Ayman

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                    No matter what you think, do you admit that there is an Alif in Thamudaa in the passages that I quoted? YES or NO.

                    Speak the truth and don't be a coward and a liar.

                    Peace,

                    Ayman

                    Dear Brother
                    This is what I am telling you .Alif has nothing to do with being diptote or triptote. If you thing that it is sign regarding this two terms.Bring up Evidence from any Grammar book.Ohther your persistance avoidence of definition of DIPTOTE or TRIPTOTE with evidence indicates that you do not know about them.It is exactly as you could not pull out the roots of the verb "tashakkat".
                    Secondly, what this have to do with "Ramadhan" which is diptote.It is a Proper Noun
                    For reference see Lane's Lexicon.

                    I am still waiting for evidence.
                    Regards
                    Regards

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                      ayman
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                      Peace Q_student,

                      This is what I am telling you .Alif has nothing to do with being diptote or triptote. If you thing that it is sign regarding this two terms.Bring up Evidence from any Grammar book.Ohther your persistance avoidence of definition of DIPTOTE or TRIPTOTE with evidence indicates that you do not know about them.It is exactly as you could not pull out the roots of the verb "tashakkat".
                      Secondly, what this have to do with "Ramadhan" which is diptote.It is a Proper Noun
                      For reference see Lane's Lexicon.

                      Listen, just like the 19ers who change letters in the great reading you lied and and copied and pasted those passages with deleted Alifs. This is why you don't want to answer the simple YES or NO question that I asked you about if there is an Alif or not. If it is so simple and you are such a knowledgeable person then why are you afraid to answer a simple question? It is because you know that there is an Alif and you wish there wasn't.

                      Peace,

                      Ayman

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                        Peace Q_student,

                        Listen, just like the 19ers who change letters in the great reading you lied and and copied and pasted those passages with deleted Alifs. This is why you don't want to answer the simple YES or NO question that I asked you about if there is an Alif or not. If it is so simple and you are such a knowledgeable person then why are you afraid to answer a simple question? It is because you know that there is an Alif and you wish there wasn't.

                        Peace,

                        Ayman

                        Dear
                        Why are you trying to detrack the thread. You derailed it from "Ramadhan " to " Thamud".I am asking you what alif has to do with diptote and triptote recognition.Give me evidence.
                        Secondly ,what it has to with Ramadhan word which is a name of the month and Proper noun as we use January ,February etc.Do we translate them.
                        Please provide the evidence for
                        1Alif as a sign of Diptote or Triptote.
                        2ifine Diptote or Triptote so that I should know that you understand the meanings of this term.
                        If you go on avoiding which you usually do,then what impression the readers will take.
                        Regards

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                          Peace Q_student,

                          Why are you trying to detrack the thread. You derailed it from "Ramadhan " to " Thamud".I am asking you what alif has to do with diptote and triptote recognition.Give me evidence.
                          Secondly ,what it has to with Ramadhan word which is a name of the month and Proper noun as we use January ,February etc.Do we translate them.
                          Please provide the evidence for
                          1Alif as a sign of Diptote or Triptote.
                          2Difine Diptote or Triptote so that I should know that you understand the meanings of this term.
                          If you go on avoiding which you usually do,then what impression the readers will take.

                          The Alif is very much the subject of this thread because it exposes your lies. It exposes that the Diptote and Triptote dichatomy and therefore the vocalization marks are false to begin with. So you can't make a circular argument based on false vocalization marks to say that any word such as "ramadhan", Thamud, etc. is a proper name or not. This is why you are afraid to answer the simple question about the Alif. Here is how you lied and wrote, for example, 2538 and deleted the final Alif of Thamudaa (copied and pasted from your post)

                          Everyone can open their copy of the great reading at home and verify that it is in reality spelled as follows with a final Alif

                          If the Alif is so inconsequential then why did you lie about it and then refused to answer the simple question? I gave you the opportunity to answer the simple question about the Alif and humbly correct your mistake but you refused. So unfortunately the only impression the intelligent reader will take is that you are a stubborn liar, not only to them but also to the god since you deliberately distorted his signs.

                          Peace,

                          Ayman

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                            Peace Q_student,

                            The Alif is very much the subject of this thread because it exposes your lies. It exposes that the Diptote and Triptote dichatomy and therefore the vocalization marks are false to begin with. So you can't make a circular argument based on false vocalization marks to say that any word such as "ramadhan", Thamud, etc. is a proper name or not. This is why you are afraid to answer the simple question about the Alif. Here is how you lied and wrote, for example, 2538 and deleted the final Alif of Thamudaa (copied and pasted from your post)

                            Everyone can open their copy of the great reading at home and verify that it is in reality spelled as follows with a final Alif

                            If the Alif is so inconsequential then why did you lie about it and then refused to answer the simple question? I gave you the opportunity to answer the simple question about the Alif and humbly correct your mistake but you refused. So unfortunately the only impression the intelligent reader will take is that you are a stubborn liar, not only to them but also to the god since you deliberately distorted his signs.

                            Peace,

                            Ayman

                            Dear Brother
                            It is really sad that you do not know the definition and signs of Diptote.No wander that that you do not know the meanings of "Shahr" either.
                            Anyway ,I do not want you to be more in agony by asking you these definition.But my humble opinion ,please do learn a little bit arabic before commenting on the Quran.
                            Regards

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                              savage_carrot
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                              At least have some shame QS. You aren't fooling anyone you know.

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                                At least have some shame QS. You aren't fooling anyone you know.

                                Peace
                                Unless you do not define what the diptote is and how to identify it ,how can you know whether some word is being used as Diptote or not.
                                You can help him if you like.
                                Regards

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                                  savage_carrot
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                                  You know what the deal is sadly, and yet still persist in your diptotty bag of tricks because you can't resolve the issue that has been raised. It is a breach of debating etiquette and you've already lost credibility. Go on if you like.

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                                    Dear Brother
                                    These are your quoted verses

                                    (67)

                                    These examples of yours show that you do not know even what diptote and triptote is .
                                    In all of these verses it is used as "Diptote"
                                    May ask you what are diptote and triptotes ?
                                    I was not expecting such type of ignorance from a person who belongs to an Arabi speaking country (If I am not wrong).Is Arabic not taught over there ?
                                    Regards

                                    Dear brother

                                    those are not his quoted verses, I hate to say that but you have proved yourself a liar and above all you have no courage to accept your fault. this is not the behaviour of a student of quran. nope

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                                      Dear brother

                                      those are not his quoted verses, I hate to say that but you have proved yourself a liar and above all you have no courage to accept your fault. this is not the behaviour of a student of quran. nope

                                      Peace ;
                                      No problem you put down his quoted verses it these are those.Do not give numbers but copy paste actual.
                                      If you want to help him ,define Diptotes and how to identify them with evidence .
                                      Regards

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                                        Samia
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                                        define Diptotes and how to identify them with evidence .
                                        Regards

                                        Salaam q_student

                                        You brought up the issue of diptotes and triptotes. Please define them if you believe that others do not understand what they are. This is a learnig forum, and not a wrestling ring. I am waiting to see if you know your diptotes from your triptotes, and that you do not ask anymore anyone else about them before explaining them.

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                                          Q_student
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                                          Salaam q_student

                                          You brought up the issue of diptotes and triptotes. Please define them if you believe that others do not understand what they are. This is a learnig forum, and not a wrestling ring. I am waiting to see if you know your diptotes from your triptotes, and that you do not ask anymore anyone else about them before explaining them.

                                          Peace sister
                                          Please consult W.Wright or some other standard book about the definition and bring it up for the readers.I will appreciate.
                                          Regards

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