Hot/"ramadan" Answer
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No matter what you think, do you admit that there is an Alif in Thamudaa in the passages that I quoted? YES or NO.
Speak the truth and don't be a coward and a liar.
Peace,
Ayman
Dear Brother
This is what I am telling you .Alif has nothing to do with being diptote or triptote. If you thing that it is sign regarding this two terms.Bring up Evidence from any Grammar book.Ohther your persistance avoidence of definition of DIPTOTE or TRIPTOTE with evidence indicates that you do not know about them.It is exactly as you could not pull out the roots of the verb "tashakkat".
Secondly, what this have to do with "Ramadhan" which is diptote.It is a Proper Noun
For reference see Lane's Lexicon.I am still waiting for evidence.
Regards
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Peace Q_student,
This is what I am telling you .Alif has nothing to do with being diptote or triptote. If you thing that it is sign regarding this two terms.Bring up Evidence from any Grammar book.Ohther your persistance avoidence of definition of DIPTOTE or TRIPTOTE with evidence indicates that you do not know about them.It is exactly as you could not pull out the roots of the verb "tashakkat".
Secondly, what this have to do with "Ramadhan" which is diptote.It is a Proper Noun
For reference see Lane's Lexicon.Listen, just like the 19ers who change letters in the great reading you lied and and copied and pasted those passages with deleted Alifs. This is why you don't want to answer the simple YES or NO question that I asked you about if there is an Alif or not. If it is so simple and you are such a knowledgeable person then why are you afraid to answer a simple question? It is because you know that there is an Alif and you wish there wasn't.
Peace,
Ayman
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Peace Q_student,
Listen, just like the 19ers who change letters in the great reading you lied and and copied and pasted those passages with deleted Alifs. This is why you don't want to answer the simple YES or NO question that I asked you about if there is an Alif or not. If it is so simple and you are such a knowledgeable person then why are you afraid to answer a simple question? It is because you know that there is an Alif and you wish there wasn't.
Peace,
Ayman
Dear
Why are you trying to detrack the thread. You derailed it from "Ramadhan " to " Thamud".I am asking you what alif has to do with diptote and triptote recognition.Give me evidence.
Secondly ,what it has to with Ramadhan word which is a name of the month and Proper noun as we use January ,February etc.Do we translate them.
Please provide the evidence for
1Alif as a sign of Diptote or Triptote.
2ifine Diptote or Triptote so that I should know that you understand the meanings of this term.
If you go on avoiding which you usually do,then what impression the readers will take.
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Peace Q_student,
Why are you trying to detrack the thread. You derailed it from "Ramadhan " to " Thamud".I am asking you what alif has to do with diptote and triptote recognition.Give me evidence.
Secondly ,what it has to with Ramadhan word which is a name of the month and Proper noun as we use January ,February etc.Do we translate them.
Please provide the evidence for
1Alif as a sign of Diptote or Triptote.
2Difine Diptote or Triptote so that I should know that you understand the meanings of this term.
If you go on avoiding which you usually do,then what impression the readers will take.The Alif is very much the subject of this thread because it exposes your lies. It exposes that the Diptote and Triptote dichatomy and therefore the vocalization marks are false to begin with. So you can't make a circular argument based on false vocalization marks to say that any word such as "ramadhan", Thamud, etc. is a proper name or not. This is why you are afraid to answer the simple question about the Alif. Here is how you lied and wrote, for example, 2538 and deleted the final Alif of Thamudaa (copied and pasted from your post)
Everyone can open their copy of the great reading at home and verify that it is in reality spelled as follows with a final Alif
If the Alif is so inconsequential then why did you lie about it and then refused to answer the simple question? I gave you the opportunity to answer the simple question about the Alif and humbly correct your mistake but you refused. So unfortunately the only impression the intelligent reader will take is that you are a stubborn liar, not only to them but also to the god since you deliberately distorted his signs.
Peace,
Ayman
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Peace Q_student,
The Alif is very much the subject of this thread because it exposes your lies. It exposes that the Diptote and Triptote dichatomy and therefore the vocalization marks are false to begin with. So you can't make a circular argument based on false vocalization marks to say that any word such as "ramadhan", Thamud, etc. is a proper name or not. This is why you are afraid to answer the simple question about the Alif. Here is how you lied and wrote, for example, 2538 and deleted the final Alif of Thamudaa (copied and pasted from your post)
Everyone can open their copy of the great reading at home and verify that it is in reality spelled as follows with a final Alif
If the Alif is so inconsequential then why did you lie about it and then refused to answer the simple question? I gave you the opportunity to answer the simple question about the Alif and humbly correct your mistake but you refused. So unfortunately the only impression the intelligent reader will take is that you are a stubborn liar, not only to them but also to the god since you deliberately distorted his signs.
Peace,
Ayman
Dear Brother
It is really sad that you do not know the definition and signs of Diptote.No wander that that you do not know the meanings of "Shahr" either.
Anyway ,I do not want you to be more in agony by asking you these definition.But my humble opinion ,please do learn a little bit arabic before commenting on the Quran.
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At least have some shame QS. You aren't fooling anyone you know.
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You know what the deal is sadly, and yet still persist in your diptotty bag of tricks because you can't resolve the issue that has been raised. It is a breach of debating etiquette and you've already lost credibility. Go on if you like.
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Dear Brother
These are your quoted verses(67)
These examples of yours show that you do not know even what diptote and triptote is .
In all of these verses it is used as "Diptote"
May ask you what are diptote and triptotes ?
I was not expecting such type of ignorance from a person who belongs to an Arabi speaking country (If I am not wrong).Is Arabic not taught over there ?
RegardsDear brother
those are not his quoted verses, I hate to say that but you have proved yourself a liar and above all you have no courage to accept your fault. this is not the behaviour of a student of quran. nope
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Dear brother
those are not his quoted verses, I hate to say that but you have proved yourself a liar and above all you have no courage to accept your fault. this is not the behaviour of a student of quran. nope
Peace ;
No problem you put down his quoted verses it these are those.Do not give numbers but copy paste actual.
If you want to help him ,define Diptotes and how to identify them with evidence .
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define Diptotes and how to identify them with evidence .
RegardsSalaam q_student
You brought up the issue of diptotes and triptotes. Please define them if you believe that others do not understand what they are. This is a learnig forum, and not a wrestling ring. I am waiting to see if you know your diptotes from your triptotes, and that you do not ask anymore anyone else about them before explaining them.
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Salaam q_student
You brought up the issue of diptotes and triptotes. Please define them if you believe that others do not understand what they are. This is a learnig forum, and not a wrestling ring. I am waiting to see if you know your diptotes from your triptotes, and that you do not ask anymore anyone else about them before explaining them.
Peace sister
Please consult W.Wright or some other standard book about the definition and bring it up for the readers.I will appreciate.
Regards -
Peace sister
Please consult W.Wright or some other standard book about the definition and bring it up for the readers.I will appreciate.
RegardsSalaam q_student
I am the one asking you to show to the others that you do not know diptotes nor triptotes. I am not a part of your silly game, and don't make me one. Why don't you do it yourself? I will appreciate, too.
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Salaam q_student
I am the one asking you to show to the others that you do not know diptotes nor triptotes. I am not a part of your silly game, and don't make me one. Why don't you do it yourself? I will appreciate, too.
Peace Samia
Let the actual debater Ayman accept that he does not know ,then I will put.
Why don't you ask him to put it or accept it.
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Peace Ayman, nwryn, everyone,
The word "ramadhan" has two connotations, hot and red. Only the full-moon after the solstice fits those two connotations since it occurs during the hottest time of the year and is also red.
I think nwryn raises a very good point. I have been thinking about this for a while. Logically, the full-moon closest to the summer solstice will be hotter and redder, and should be considered as shahr ramadhaan. I think we need to undertake a scientific study to resolve this issue and see which one is hotter and redder, the one closest to the summer solstice or the one after the summer solstice.
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Peace Ayman, nwryn, everyone,
I think nwryn raises a very good point. I have been thinking about this for a while. Logically, the full-moon closest to the summer solstice will be hotter and redder, and should be considered as shahr ramadhaan. I think we need to undertake a scientific study to resolve this issue and see which one is hotter and redder, the one closest to the summer solstice or the one after the summer solstice.
Peace
The word "Ramadhan " is a proper noun it cannot be translated as you cannot translate January ,February etc .It cannot be translated.Secondly,the word "Ramadha' does not have meaning of "Redness" in it. Third "Shahr" never means full moon.
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Peace Truthseeker,
I think nwryn raises a very good point. I have been thinking about this for a while. Logically, the full-moon closest to the summer solstice will be hotter and redder, and should be considered as shahr ramadhaan. I think we need to undertake a scientific study to resolve this issue and see which one is hotter and redder, the one closest to the summer solstice or the one after the summer solstice.
I would be glad to consider other alternatives. However, in this case I think this is pretty well scientifically and logically established. Unless you live on the equator where it is always hot, the hottest time of the year will start after the summer solstice and not before.
Peace,
Ayman
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Peace Ayman,
My research so far indicates that you are right. Following are the average temperatures for NYC before and after summer solstice
http//www.accuweather.com/us/ny/new-york/10001/forecast-normals.asp?partner=netweather&traveler=1&zipchg=1&metric=0&month=6
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Peace Samia
Let the actual debater Ayman accept that he does not know ,then I will put.
Why don't you ask him to put it or accept it.
RegardsThis is not about Ayman nor Rassulhamsa. It's about your unacceptable way of discussing. From your response I understand that you are unable to answer the very question you think you are challenging others with, so please do not participate with the intention of challenging others and intimidating them, thus derailing serious discussions. . End of this discussion.
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Peace everyone,
The night of the scorching full-moon for 2009 is coming on July 6 for the Northern Hemisphere. Therefore, the fast starts on July 7 for 10 days and so the last day of fasting is July 16th. Here is the data for the Washington DC Area
WASHINGTON, DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
W 77 02, N38 53
Altitude and Azimuth of the Moon
Jul 6, 2009
Eastern Standard Time
Time Altitude Azimuth Fraction Illuminated
1930 0.6 123.5 1.00
1940 2.0 125.1 1.00
1950 3.5 126.6 1.00
2000 4.9 128.2 1.00
2010 6.4 129.9 1.00
2020 7.8 131.6 1.00
2030 9.2 133.3 1.00
2040 10.5 135.0 1.00
2050 11.9 136.8 1.00
2100 13.1 138.7 1.00
2110 14.4 140.5 1.00
2120 15.6 142.5 1.00
2130 16.7 144.4 1.00
2140 17.8 146.5 1.00
2150 18.8 148.5 1.00
2200 19.8 150.6 1.00
2210 20.7 152.8 1.00
2220 21.5 155.0 1.00
2230 22.3 157.2 1.00
2240 23.0 159.5 1.00
2250 23.7 161.8 1.00
2300 24.2 164.1 1.00
2310 24.7 166.5 1.00
2320 25.1 168.9 1.00
2330 25.5 171.3 1.00
2340 25.7 173.8 1.00
2350 25.9 176.2 1.000000 26.0 178.7 1.00
0010 26.0 181.1 1.00
0020 26.0 183.6 1.00
0030 25.8 186.1 1.00
0040 25.6 188.5 1.00
0050 25.3 191.0 1.00
0100 24.9 193.4 1.00
0110 24.5 195.8 1.00
0120 23.9 198.1 1.00
0130 23.3 200.5 1.00
0140 22.6 202.7 1.00
0150 21.9 205.0 1.00
0200 21.1 207.2 1.00
0210 20.2 209.4 1.00
0220 19.2 211.5 1.00
0230 18.2 213.6 1.00
0240 17.2 215.7 1.00
0250 16.1 217.7 1.00
0300 14.9 219.6 1.00
0310 13.7 221.5 1.00
0320 12.4 223.4 1.00
0330 11.1 225.2 1.00
0340 9.8 227.0 1.00
0350 8.4 228.8 1.00
0400 7.0 230.5 1.00
0410 5.6 232.2 1.00
0420 4.1 233.8 1.00
0430 2.7 235.4 1.00
0440 1.3 237.0 1.00From
http//aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/AltAz.phpPeace,
Ayman