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Do Animals Believe in/Acknowledge God?

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    Meteora
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    Sorry if this might sound dumb. They probably just do and worship him 24/7 but I was wondering if there's any quranic reference about this.

    I think everything in the universe worships God in some way shape or form, and that it's just people who can decide not to.

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      aynur
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      Sorry if this might sound dumb. They probably just do and worship him 24/7 but I was wondering if there's any quranic reference about this.

      I think everything in the universe worships God in some way shape or form, and that it's just people who can decide not to.

      Do you not realize that everyone in the heavens and the earth glorifies GOD, even the birds as they fly in a column? Each knows its prayer and its glorification. GOD is fully aware of everything they do.

      That's the only one I can come up with now. HTH. )

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        I don't think 2441 says they consciously glorify the god because that would be ridiculous. I think animals glorify the god the same way that "Everything in the heavens and the earth" (including rocks and trees) the god, that is, by being wondrous creations that exhibit the brilliance of their creator.

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          I don't think 2441 says they consciously glorify the god because that would be ridiculous. I think animals glorify the god the same way that "Everything in the heavens and the earth" (including rocks and trees) the god, that is, by being wondrous creations that exhibit the brilliance of their creator.

          Mainly by efficiently playing the role they were assigned and created for, for the welfare of the whole universe.

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            I think they do their roles perfectly. The sun can't choose not to shine or decide "Hmmm, don't think I'll burn as brightly as I'm supposed to" P Nothing in the universe deviates from the laws of nature, which are the god's commandments to all of creation.

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              Prince
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              Mainly by efficiently playing the role they were assigned and created for, for the welfare of the whole universe.

              ^^Best explanation of animals roles in our universe imo. Humans are at the top of the chain so to speak but could also drop to the same level as animals (do not have quranic ref to hand).

              PEACE

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                No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                "From among His signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the creatures He spreads in them. He is able to gather them, if He wills." (4229)

                I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                  nsws1988
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                  Mainly by efficiently playing the role they were assigned and created for, for the welfare of the whole universe.

                  Peace

                  Hmmm I never thought of it that way

                  God bless

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                    Do you not realize that everyone in the heavens and the earth glorifies GOD, even the birds as they fly in a column? Each knows its prayer and its glorification. GOD is fully aware of everything they do.

                    That's the only one I can come up with now. HTH.

                    Thanks Bro Aynur.. a truly wonderful quote..
                    There are BILLIONS way of 'shalat' and means of Glorifying God.
                    Time for 'sectarian' folks to redefine their understanding of 'shalat' as merely a uniform and sequential rites of bowing standing up and prostration..

                    Peace

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                      aynur
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                      Thanks Bro Aynur.. a truly wonderful quote..
                      There are BILLIONS way of 'shalat' and means of Glorifying God.
                      Time for 'sectarian' folks to redefine their understanding of 'shalat' as merely a uniform and sequential rites of bowing standing up and prostration..

                      Peace

                      Peace Jafar,
                      I'm actual a 'sis'.

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                        I think they do their roles perfectly. The sun can't choose not to shine or decide "Hmmm, don't think I'll burn as brightly as I'm supposed to" Nothing in the universe deviates from the laws of nature, which are the god's commandments to all of creation.

                        Ofcourse the Sun can't choose to do ANYTHING, it is not a living entity capable of making decisions or acting upon them.
                        So this does not make sense. The Quran says God made "things" and they glorify him by fulfilling their roles. They are not "actively" fullfilling their roles because that would mean that they have a choice in the matter. Can they ever NOT fullfil their roles?

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                          Meteora
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                          Very good you all!

                          But, how a Bear is killing a human being, I don't see falls in the category of "fulfilling his role" but since animals will not be judged, I guess it...is?

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                            Everything in creation manifests the names of God. When they are manifested without deliberation, they are pure and untainted in such manifestation. That is what so wonderful about animals and so awesome in things. That in deliberation and decision also the names of God can be reflected would be the "specialty" of human beings. We all praise the names of god, lahulhamd.

                            Salaam

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                              http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=7365.30

                              All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                Meteora
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                                What does a French translation of Quran have to do with this?

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                                  No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                                  What does a French translation of Quran have to do with this?

                                  Peace,

                                  read carefully, Wakas wrote the following in that thread

                                  After a brief analysis

                                  some notes
                                  SBH is only given to God.
                                  people should SBH God.

                                  3215 if one gives SBH they are not arrogant
                                  571, 1744 all things inanimate and animate SBH God
                                  1744 people do not comprehend such SBH
                                  230 SBH can be communicated

                                  It is interesting that people do not comprehend SBH of other things. I would assume this is because it is not obvious (i.e. a tree doesn't say "Glory be to God&quot so a tree is in the act of SBH yet we dont sense it.
                                  I think this is where the underlying meaning of SBH comes in... it could be related to the following to swim, coursing along (as used in 2133, 3640) and it seems to be with the flow or on a set course. Lane even states some animals have roots associated with SBH, possibly because they follow a set course or go with the flow or go where their master takes them. This ties in with your observations

                                  For humans, SBH can be communicated, as we have a voice, but it could also be deeper, i.e. we follow our set course.

                                  I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                                    Meteora
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                                    Would've been better for him to just post the quote.

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