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Lying haraam?

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    MUNZIR_ALI
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    and what are your arguments for that?

    I am only saying what I think, i don't know

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      herbman
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      so how I know you are not lying?

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        MUNZIR_ALI
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        i don't lie brother

        peace

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          nsws1988
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          i don't lie brother

          peace

          Peace

          Maybe that was a lie too?

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            MUNZIR_ALI
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            It was not a lie! angel

            peace

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              nerspi
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              peace

              depends on the intention.

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                Samia
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                Do you mean if we are commanded to tell the truth, this does not mean tellying a lie is not haraam, because "the qur'aan did not say so"? Or if the qur'aan condemns the liars, it is not exactly saying "lying is haraam"?

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                  nerspi
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                  ok i should mention also depends on situation.
                  i was put a few times in a position where telling the truth would cause someone pain(emotional)... so i lied, yes, but the intention was good, so i don't see how it could be haram.
                  there's a grey area.

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                    Samia
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                    ok i should mention also depends on situation.
                    i was put a few times in a position where telling the truth would cause someone pain(emotional)... so i lied, yes, but the intention was good, so i don't see how it could be haram.
                    there's a grey area.

                    Not telling the truth is not the equivalent of telling a lie.

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                      nerspi
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                      well sure, one can just say nothing.
                      but lets say they would have to say something... what then?

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                        Scheherezade
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                        Guy meets girl, tells girl how beautiful she is; tells her he loves her. Girl falls for guy. Guy is not serious about girl. Girl eventually realizes this. Girl is heartbroken and spends the rest of her life alone, never able to trust a man again.

                        Woman at work asks guy what he thinks of her new haircut. Guy thinks she looks worse but sees how much she seems to like it and says, ?You look mahvelous, dahling, simply mahvelous!? Woman walks away with a smile on her face.

                        It depends on intention.

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                          Alen
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                          Peace,
                          Respectfully.

                          Prophet Ibraheem lied but i guess you can lie if you're gonna make a point.
                          God knows best.

                          Peace.

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                            TheNabi
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                            Peace

                            This is just my personal opinion on the subject of lying to make other people feel good.

                            I always feel it is an invitation to help people live lies, to live "deaf, dumb, and blind". Besides, I may feel your style is horrible and someone else may feel your style is great and you may think your style is okay.

                            Now if you guys want to argue whether lying is haraam or not please do not add to or delete from what God says. Bring the proof and argue your points.

                            Joe

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                              Samia
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                              Peace,
                              Respectfully.

                              Prophet Ibraheem lied but i guess you can lie if you're gonna make a point.
                              God knows best.

                              Peace.

                              He did not lie. He was being sarcastic. They knew he did it, and he knew they knew he did it.

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                                Shumali
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                                Here is the ayah
                                2230

                                so lying is no,no

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                                  Q_student
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                                  Here is the ayah
                                  2230

                                  so lying is no,no

                                  Peace Brother
                                  Do you think ,then that lying is "Haraam"?
                                  Regards

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                                    Shumali
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                                    To mark things Haram and Halal is a dangerous business, as per 16116 we cannot assign things Haram and Halal. So in my opinion if Quran states about something "do not do it" "abstain from it" "refrain from it" "donot go near It" they all stand in the category of "non doer". So one should not lie per Quran, and the ayah 2230 is clear enough.

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                                      nsws1988
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                                      I think it is the intention which could be halal or haram.

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                                        YAYA
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                                        I think it is the intention which could be halal or haram.

                                        YES IT IS THE INTENTION, BUT MOST IMPOTANTLY THE ACTION police

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                                          Shumali
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                                          Here is another Ayah
                                          242

                                          It clearly says not to lie intentionaly

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