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    Samia
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    or not all all, you won't die from not being able to swim in the ocean

    Tell this to someone whose boat sank in the middle of water...oops you can't, because he/she is already dead.

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      SubmitterToGOD
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      Salamun alaykum,

      wow you people really twist everything

      Following your saying you should either

      be rich and have your own private pool
      or
      not swim at all

      no, thats not what i said brickwall

      you should probably swim in (decent) clothes,

      or in a private pool

      or not all all, you won't die from not being able to swim in the ocean

      "probably swim in decent clothes"

      learn to read.

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        herbman
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        Salamun alaykum,

        wow you people really twist everything

        no, thats not what i said brickwall

        "probably swim in decent clothes"

        learn to read.

        Peace,

        Sorry brickwall I didn't brickwall saw that brickwall

        No offense
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          almarh0m
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          2430 Tell the acknowledging men to lower their gaze and guard their private parts, for that is purer for them. God is fully aware of what you do.

          2431 Tell the acknowledging women to lower their gaze and guard their private parts, and that they should not show off their attraction except what is apparent, and let them cast their clothes over their cleavage...

          I guess for the beach, a swim suite is OK.
          It is, however a two-way deal. BOTH MEN AND WOMEN should LOWER THEIR GAZE and GUARD THEIR PRIVATE PARTS.

          Peace

          If the beach goers lower their gaze to the ankles , they wouldn't even notice what other people are wearing

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            SwedenMajidah
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            Peace,

            Well, I think it's up to everyone to choose what to wear on the beach.

            If I really want to melt into the crowd of people on the beach I should wear a normal bikini or swimsuit that most women wear. If I wear strange clothes people will notice me more and I get attention that I don't want to get.

            A suggestion is to wear bikini when you lay down to take sunburn and when you take a dip into the ocean but when you will take a longer walk along the beach and perhaps buy an ice-cream then you can put on a beach dress or something.

            Maria

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              Wakas
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              peace Maria, all,

              Well, I think it's up to everyone to choose what to wear on the beach.

              Depends on the aim. If part of the aim is to follow Al Quran then how can it be up to everyone to choose?

              IF part of the aim is not to follow Al Quran, then yes, it is up to everyone to choose.

              All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                SarahY
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                inevitably we all choose what we want. your suggestion of a bikini might work in some areas of the world in which the social construction says bikini is the thing to wear at a beach but not all places are like this. Also as people become aware of other people's beliefs and cultures they recognise the clothing as part of identity and do not look out of place. it's all about perceptions and social constructions..

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                  No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                  If the beach goers lower their gaze to the ankles , they wouldn't even notice what other people are wearing

                  laugh

                  I understand "lower their gaze" as idiomatic. It simply means not to stare at women the whole time and so on. It doesnt mean to physically lower their gaze. Otherwise you'd be walking around with your head facing downwards the whole time!

                  I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                    SarahY
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                    I think the lowering of the gaze can be physically done

                    I'll give you an example imagine you saw a really attractive guy/girl and you like unconsciously starred at them. IF you thought of lowering your gaze maybe instantly you would look down and distract your thoughts.

                    i don't mean you look down all the time but maybe you would lower your gaze initially and then be off to walking normally.

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                      I think , we would draw more un-welcome attention/stare if we were to dress differently from other beach goers , and it all depends on our intention for going to the beach . Personally , I am more comfortable in a speedo at the beach , better for swimming ;D

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                        estaghfirullahi 3atheem..... these women should have separate beaches where men and lesbians shouldn't be allowed to go...

                        Why?
                        Because you can't keep your privates to yourself?
                        C'mon guys, freedom means choice. We should be allowed to wear what we want. I don't want my choice of clothes to be dictated by others.

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                          TheNabi
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                          Peace

                          If the beach goers lower their gaze to the ankles , they wouldn't even notice what other people are wearing

                          I think if God wanted us to walk around with our heads down he would have made us walk around like grazing animals.

                          Joe

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                            SarahY
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                            I wouldn't wear a bikini, it would bear too much skin and doesn't exactly cover the breasts. and because i try follow Quran i'd say it's inappropriate. but you all have the choice to wear what you want. but my understanding of Quran and my acceptance of following it "dictates" what i wear. besides i'd become a stronger swimmer swimming even though it would be easier to swim in a speedo/bikini

                            salam.

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                              huruf
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                              I heard one comebody talk about the propriety of the trikini

                              Goggles, belt and flippers

                              Just joking laugh sun laugh sun > yuck

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                                aynur
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                                I wouldn't wear a bikini, it would bear too much skin and doesn't exactly cover the breasts. and because i try follow Quran i'd say it's inappropriate. but you all have the choice to wear what you want. but my understanding of Quran and my acceptance of following it "dictates" what i wear. besides i'd become a stronger swimmer swimming even though it would be easier to swim in a speedo/bikini

                                salam.

                                Salaam Sarah,
                                Since you swim fully covered, have you checked out those "Islamic" swimsuits? (i.e. Burquini, Ahiida, Splashgear) They would be less heavy than wearing your clothes & scarf in the water, and I believe safer for you.

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                                  SarahY
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                                  Yeh i've seen them they're expensive
                                  i'm a strong swimmer alhamdulillah besides it's not like i'm going 20m deep into the ocean so it's ok
                                  also my bro and sis have a pool, so i don't always have to be fully covered, just in public

                                  Salam

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                                    aynur
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                                    Yeh i've seen them they're expensive
                                    i'm a strong swimmer alhamdulillah besides it's not like i'm going 20m deep into the ocean so it's ok
                                    also my bro and sis have a pool, so i don't always have to be fully covered, just in public

                                    Salam

                                    Salaam,
                                    Lucky you! Wish I had my own pool ... maybe one day. ;D

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                                      YAYA
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                                      WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DRESSING CODE, WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE LIVING EXAMPLE OF THE PROPHET
                                      HE THAUGHT US ALL
                                      INCLUDING HOW WE SHOULD DREE (BOTH MALE AND FEMALE)
                                      IF YOU HAVE TO DRESS, U HAVE TO COVER YOUR BODY
                                      ALLAHU ALAMU

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                                        No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                                        WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DRESSING CODE, WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE LIVING EXAMPLE OF THE PROPHET
                                        HE THAUGHT US ALL
                                        INCLUDING HOW WE SHOULD DREE (BOTH MALE AND FEMALE)
                                        IF YOU HAVE TO DRESS, U HAVE TO COVER YOUR BODY
                                        ALLAHU ALAMU

                                        "...We did not leave ANYTHING out of this book." 638

                                        "The word of your Lord is COMPLETE, in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient." 6115

                                        "Shall I seek other than GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed? Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt." 6114

                                        "Have they not looked at the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all the things God has created? Does it ever occur to them that the end of their life may be near? Which HADITH, besides this (Quran) do they believe in?" 7185

                                        Muhammed cannot prohibit things
                                        "O you prophet, why do you prohibit what GOD has made lawful for you, just to please your wives? GOD is Forgiver, Merciful." 661

                                        "Hijab" or veil can be traced back to early civilizations. It can be found in early and late Roman and Greek art. The evidence can be seen in archeological discoveries whether in pottery fragments, paintings or recorded civil laws. In Greco-Roman culture, both women and men wore head covering in religious contexts. The tradition of wearing the veil (by women) and the headcover (by men) was then adopted by the Jews who wrote it in the Talmud (Talmud equals the Hadiths and Sunna, neither are the words of God) then the Christians adopted the same. A well respected Rabbi once explained to a group of Jewish young women, "We do not find a direct command in the Torah mandating that women cover their heads, but we do know that this has been the continuing custom for thousands of years." After the prophet Muhammad's death , the writers of the hadith books adopted and encouraged the ancient tradition of head covering. Hadith book' writers took after the Jews as they did with many other traditions , and alleged them to the prophet since the Quran did not command it.

                                        Any student of the Jewish traditions or religious books will see that head cover for the Jewish woman (and men) has been encouraged by the Rabbis and religious leaders. Observant Jewish women still cover their heads most of the time and specially in the synagogues, weddings, and religious festivities.

                                        Christian women cover their heads in many religious occasions while the nuns cover their heads all the time.

                                        The Quran doesnt say that women have to cover their hair. Give me one Quranic verse that proves such a thing, if you think you are right.

                                        Peace

                                        I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                                          SarahY
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                                          aynur i wish i had my own pool too!

                                          yaya - so you follow everything 'according to the prophet'?

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