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Prohibited Things in Heaven?

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    Meteora
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    I notice a connection regarding many hadith. The things that are prohibited in them, but not in the Quran, such as silk, and music, are supposedly stated by the prophet to be haram, yet he promised these things to his people in paradise...anyone sense something fishy here? If they are "evil", then what place do they have in heaven? Anyone else think that God wants us to abstain from something simply because we find it pleasing? Or because that thing which we like is actually harmful to us physically and/or spiritually?

    It's a given that there is no evil in heaven, and if silk and music are evil (which they are not, according to Quran and even common sense...) they cannot be in heaven either.

    Hadithist "BUT THEI WILL NOT BEE HARAM THEY WILL BE PURE!!"

    hypno

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      MUNZIR_ALI
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      maybe they are not evil things in heaven

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        nsws1988
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        I notice a connection regarding many hadith. The things that are prohibited in them, but not in the Quran, such as silk, and music, are supposedly stated by the prophet to be haram, yet he promised these things to his people in paradise...anyone sense something fishy here? If they are "evil", then what place do they have in heaven? Anyone else think that God wants us to abstain from something simply because we find it pleasing? Or because that thing which we like is actually harmful to us physically and/or spiritually?

        It's a given that there is no evil in heaven, and if silk and music are evil (which they are not, according to Quran and even common sense...) they cannot be in heaven either.

        Hadithist "BUT THEI WILL NOT BEE HARAM THEY WILL BE PURE!!"

        hypno

        Peace

        We won't have the devil nagging us in heaven so we won't sin. If wearing silk etc is sinful then that would be a contradiction.
        According to my mother, men shouldn't dress like women (cross dress), which is silk/ gold are 'sinful'. I don't see silk and gold as cross-dressing, do you?

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          MUNZIR_ALI
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          We won't have the devil nagging us in heaven so we won't sin. If wearing silk etc is sinful then that would be a contradiction.
          According to my mother, men shouldn't dress like women (cross dress), which is silk/ gold are 'sinful'. I don't see silk and gold as cross-dressing, do you?

          no,

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            Meteora
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            The definition of "cross-dressing" is also debatable.

            Look if you don't have the intention of doing it then what's the point. Hardly anyone is actually going to put on make-up, where skirts and bras and say they aren't trying to cross-dress, but just because you want to look like a goth or emo with emo hair doesn't make you a devil or a cross-dresser, no matter how much a sunni tries to argue it is.

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              I don't think prohibited things are allowed in paradise. The Quran refers to the cup of happiness or whatever, but the hadith embellish this and says it's an intoxicant, and there will be rivers of wine, etc. The Quran says their will be servants, but the hadith says beautiful boys. The Quran says there will be Houra which could refer to the fruit of illumination, or more traditionally maidens of light. The hadith says translucent giant amazon albino nymphomaniacs with enormous cow-eyes/bosoms.

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                MUNZIR_ALI
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                7834 And a full cup (of wine).

                How do we know that it is wine?

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                  IT IS GOOD TO THINK WIDE
                  BUT NOT IN THE CASE OF THIS
                  PROHIBITED THINGS IN HEAVEN YOU MEAN?
                  ALLAH KNOWS BEST, BUT ACCORDING TO THE QURAN AND HADITH, THE DISCRIPTION OF HEAVEN IS HOLY AND PURE
                  THUS, THERE CAN BE NO PROHIBITD THINGS IN HEAVEN
                  ALLAHU ALAMU

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                    MUNZIR_ALI
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                    IT IS GOOD TO THINK WIDE
                    BUT NOT IN THE CASE OF THIS
                    PROHIBITED THINGS IN HEAVEN YOU MEAN?
                    ALLAH KNOWS BEST, BUT ACCORDING TO THE QURAN AND HADITH, THE DISCRIPTION OF HEAVEN IS HOLY AND PURE
                    THUS, THERE CAN BE NO PROHIBITD THINGS IN HEAVEN
                    ALLAHU ALAMU

                    Do you believe in hadith?

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                      IT IS GOOD TO THINK WIDE
                      BUT NOT IN THE CASE OF THIS
                      PROHIBITED THINGS IN HEAVEN YOU MEAN?
                      ALLAH KNOWS BEST, BUT ACCORDING TO THE QURAN AND HADITH, THE DISCRIPTION OF HEAVEN IS HOLY AND PURE
                      THUS, THERE CAN BE NO PROHIBITD THINGS IN HEAVEN
                      ALLAHU ALAMU

                      I don't think prohibited things are allowed in paradise. The Quran refers to the cup of happiness or whatever, but the hadith embellish this and says it's an intoxicant, and there will be rivers of wine, etc. The Quran says their will be servants, but the hadith says beautiful boys. The Quran says there will be Houra which could refer to the fruit of illumination, or more traditionally maidens of light. The hadith says translucent giant amazon albino nymphomaniacs with enormous cow-eyes/bosoms.

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                        No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                        Do you believe in hadith?

                        Of course he doesnt..thats why he said in the Quran and HADITH...
                        laugh

                        I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                          Meteora
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                          IT IS GOOD TO THINK WIDE
                          BUT NOT IN THE CASE OF THIS
                          PROHIBITED THINGS IN HEAVEN YOU MEAN?
                          ALLAH KNOWS BEST, BUT ACCORDING TO THE QURAN AND HADITH, THE DISCRIPTION OF HEAVEN IS HOLY AND PURE
                          THUS, THERE CAN BE NO PROHIBITD THINGS IN HEAVEN
                          ALLAHU ALAMU

                          According to hadith, heaven is nothing but an X-rated sex haven for men. Are we going to believe that too?

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                            nsws1988
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                            According to hadith, heaven is nothing but an X-rated sex haven for men. Are we going to believe that too?

                            rotfl

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