Defenition of marriage suggests sex before marriage permitted?!
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Can this also be valid
MMA are slave boys. He is not a slave per se but he is something like "adopted", the burden is actuALLY ON YOU! If you accept a gift from them and got their families permission, they are still called MMA. Actually this also solves a lot of the problems of problems an societies!Yeah but dont take a gift from more than one man at a time.
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How many girls are you going to give gifts to? Wil these girls be in addition to a wife? Then I am afraid, same here ;D
Just tell me where to find these "boys" and "girls" eatI can have multiple wives, you can have one husband. If you had more than one husband, to whom ur children will belong??
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I can have multiple wives, you can have one husband. If you had more than one husband, to whom ur children will belong??
What if I am sterile? Too old to have more children, but young enough to have many husbands? Can have children and will choose my husbands from different races? Know the father of my child by intuition? Distribute them as I like and the husbands wont know? Arrange it in any other way...?
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What if I am sterile? Too old to have more children, but young enough to have many husbands? Can have children and will choose my husbands from different races? Know the father of my child by intuition? Distribute them as I like and the husbands wont know? Arrange it in any other way...?
Thats whoredom. Sorry. Forbidden.
Thus saith the Lord! angel
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Ohh come on Samia, you are under-estimating my Arabic.
fe3l = tahsseen
fa3el = mohassen - male
maf3ool behe = mohassana - femalehmm
First tahseen is not the pattern of fe3l. fe3l hesn; hasuna fa3ula.
Why is the feminine "maf3uul behi/ agent" and the male is "fa3el/ actor"? What's your proof? You understand it in a way, then write whatever diacritical signs to support your understanding. The qur'aan was not revealed with these diacritical signs; so unless you have a logical reason, you cannot use them as evidence.
And I can tell you that yours are wrong diacritical signs, and God knew some will manipulate them, this is why he put the second part , or are you going to say they are different too, and that one is "maf3uul behi" and the other is "fa3el"?!Secondly, why can't a male be "muhsan"?
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First tahseen is not the pattern of fe3l. fe3l hesn; hasuna fa3ula.
Why is the feminine "maf3uul behi/ agent" and the male is "fa3el/ actor"? What's your proof? You understand it in a way, then write whatever diacritical signs to support your understanding. The qur'aan was not revealed with these diacritical signs; so unless you have a logical reason, you cannot use them as evidence.
And I can tell you that yours are wrong diacritical signs, and God knew some will manipulate them, this is why he put the second part , or are you going to say they are different too, and that one is "maf3uul behi" and the other is "fa3el"?!Secondly, why can't a male be "muhsan"?
How did you reason that they played with the diactricial markings when a 'muhasan' male is actually a sunni idea!!! I guess it didn't go as planned. Ofcourse they said this to force a Torah law into the religion which is another story.
The word 'sefa7' is different I agree.
An angel just told me where in the Quran can you find a group of men called 'Mohasaneen'. peace
Peace,
Rami
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Thats whoredom. Sorry. Forbidden.
No, sorry, that's getting the English language completely mixed up.
In English, whoredom is when you have sex in return for money.
Having multiple, simultainious husbands is polyandry.
There's no english word to specifically describe women (as opposed to men) having multiple sex partners to whom they are not married.
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First tahseen is not the pattern of fe3l. fe3l hesn; hasuna fa3ula.
Why is the feminine "maf3uul behi/ agent" and the male is "fa3el/ actor"? What's your proof? You understand it in a way, then write whatever diacritical signs to support your understanding. The qur'aan was not revealed with these diacritical signs; so unless you have a logical reason, you cannot use them as evidence.
And I can tell you that yours are wrong diacritical signs, and God knew some will manipulate them, this is why he put the second part , or are you going to say they are different too, and that one is "maf3uul behi" and the other is "fa3el"?!Secondly, why can't a male be "muhsan"?
Peace ;
Neither "tahseen" nor "hesna" are "Fe3l". Both of them are nouns i.e ismul masdar.
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How did you reason that they played with the diactricial markings when a 'muhasan' male is actually a sunni idea!!!
Did I even mention "sunnis"? I am talking about YOU. I do not look at diacritical signs when I read the qur'aan, but you do and lay heavy weight on them.
Muhsan is a word, not an idea, and it's in the qur'aan. I do not know if sunnis even acknowledge the word "muhsan" or not, but you are "legalising" the "idea" they have, by taking their dicritical signs as truth. -
Peace sister
You saidWhat do you mean by first pair ?
RegardsI mean that the word "hesn" has the pattern of the word "fe3l". This is the Arabic equivalent to CVCC where V is the short vowel "e". In Arabic we use the letters Faa 3ain Laam for consonants of a root, then the different patterns of this root will have to respect the sequence of these letters, this is why "C" for consonnat is unapplicable in Arabic. The word "fe3l" is a noun from the root Faa 3ain Laam, and "hesn" is a noun too of the root Haa Saad Nuun, having the same pattern.
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Peace all,
Am I the only one to have noticed the paradoxical nature of the title of this thread?
Whatever "marriage" is, however it is defined, then whatever the requirements for "marriage" are must have occurred for "marriage" to have taken place.
As such, "sex before marriage" is theoretically impossible.