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According to the present understanding of the quran which religion is better?

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    salgan
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    Peace Simple

    Thats been the trouble with religion majority of people stick to dictionary definition and IGNORE what they observe what religion truly is CONTROL by the Few over the many by fear .

    You do not need Religion to Believe or to be Responsible for your actions .

    Peace Salim

    Live long and prosper

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      unknownuser
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      Peace Simple,
      That is strange! Your understanding does not come from the dictionary you want others to stick to! As you preached Salgan (Salim) !!!

      And here is the quote from the dictionary that you have brought in an earlier post!!!
      Many different meanings for the word "religion".
      And your personal understanding is not one of them!

      I think my belief in the God is there in the dictionary, check it!

      Your statement is contradictory.
      If what you say is true, why then all religions don't become one? At least for the great and noble purpose they all call for!!?? Isn't this noble cause worthy enough for them to unite under one name!? Isn't the God enough for His believers?

      Of course he is enough and the differances don't remove the importance of the value given to life.

      Please don't throw all the blame on the sheep majority. They only follow what they are told by the "religion's authorities" whether clearly or implied.

      The majority may be the sheep but they aren't the Fasidoon/trouble makers- who don't value life.

      Hitler is but one of many. He only got his vast reputation for obvious reasons. Have you been living in a cave!?

      Yes he was of the minority, and not the majority.

      peace

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        unknownuser
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        Peace Simple

        Thats been the trouble with religion majority of people stick to dictionary definition and IGNORE what they observe

        Do they really ignore what they observe-No we can't and don't ignore what we observe.

        Proof is all around us.

        so far its been improving over the decades- check history of what people used to do until religions came about, people where basically animal like.

        what religion truly is CONTROL by the Few over the many by fear .

        Of course all religions are controlled by a few but you can have a religion of your own- un-doubtedly you have one.

        You do not need Religion to Believe or to be Responsible for your actions.

        Please check the definition of religion above- its not what we think it is.

        example;

        2 INFORMAL If you do something religiously, you do it regularly
        He visits his mother religiously every week.

        Live long and prosper

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          Meteora
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          Traditional Islam

          ...

          http//i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg179/Final_Fantasy_Ultimania/haermm.gif

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            MUNZIR_ALI
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            Traditional Islam

            ...

            http//i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg179/Final_Fantasy_Ultimania/haermm.gif

            Are you kidding?

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              Meteora
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              I added that smiley later. You probably didn't see it before you clicked quote. ;D

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                MUNZIR_ALI
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                I added that smiley later. You probably didn't see it before you clicked quote. ;D

                Hey, how did you get that smiley? is it on free minds?

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                  Meteora
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                  nah. personal photobucket account, but you can keep it for future use sun

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                    TAJ
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                    Peace Simple,

                    I think my belief in the God is there in the dictionary, check it!

                    And does, or actually, should your belief belong to a certain religion?

                    peace

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                      unknownuser
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                      Peace Simple,

                      And does, or actually, should your belief belong to a certain religion?

                      peace

                      Yes, God Alone.

                      peace

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                        Rev_John
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                        Yes, God Alone.

                        peace

                        Exactly bravo

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                          TAJ
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                          Peace Simple,

                          And does, or actually, should your belief belong to a certain religion?

                          Yes, God Alone.

                          And of course, you do realize that this is your personal understanding that is based on the English definition of the word "religion" that you have provided earlier, which by the way I would really like if you would highlight the exact part you chose of the many definitions listed in your quote just so to spare others (me included) from any possible misunderstanding,, bearing in mind that that definition may have nothing to do with the meaning of the Arabic word "deen" according or as it appeared in the Quran, and also may have nothing to do with the commonly understood meaning of the word "deen" among Arabic speaking people. Conclusion A fresh research of the Quranic definition of "deen" is required. May Allah enlighten us.

                          All the best,
                          Taj

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                            MUNZIR_ALI
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                            I voted "Other" simply because I do not see and difference between the basic beliefs of any of those religions mentioned. I am a Christian (not traditional) and I believe almost exactly the same as most "God-alone", "Quran-alone" Muslims. So what is the difference between us?

                            I think I have found out the difference between God alone muslims and God alone christians..God alone muslims do not eat the flesh of the swine. however god alone christians do?

                            peace

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                              unknownuser
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                              Peace Simple,

                              Yes, God Alone.

                              And of course, you do realize that this is your personal understanding that is based on the English definition of the word "religion" that you have provided earlier, which by the way I would really like if you would highlight the exact part you chose of the many definitions listed in your quote just so to spare others (me included) from any possible misunderstanding,, bearing in mind that that definition may have nothing to do with the meaning of the Arabic word "deen" according or as it appeared in the Quran, and also may have nothing to do with the commonly understood meaning of the word "deen" among Arabic speaking people. Conclusion A fresh research of the Quranic definition of "deen" is required. May Allah enlighten us.

                              All the best,
                              Taj

                              My religion- now

                              having a strong belief in a god/ Life Force.

                              So as to do things religiously,regularly- with Justice.

                              Deen- according to the quran and dictionary - is i believe Justice/ all fareness , which becomes a religion every step of the way, and the belief/faith in the God is the rose bud that gives us the fragerance of justice.

                              peace

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                                unknownuser
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                                I think I have found out the difference between God alone muslims and God alone christians..God alone muslims do not eat the flesh of the swine. however god alone christians do?

                                peace

                                Does eating the flash of swine or of a cow matter to someone who has never seen the quran? but doing good and avoiding evil does-irrespective of whether you have or have not recieved the quran, whether you are living in the jungles of Africa the Amazon. I don't believe pigs are even mentioned in the great reading.

                                But saying that not even i eat it - as was brought up that way, its the programing.

                                hypno

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                                  Rev_John
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                                  I think I have found out the difference between God alone muslims and God alone christians..God alone muslims do not eat the flesh of the swine. however god alone christians do?

                                  peace

                                  I think that is the only difference between Christians and almost all others. eat

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                                    No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                                    I think that is the only difference between Christians and almost all others. eat

                                    "And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be cloven footed, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you".
                                    "Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcass shall ye not touch, they are unclean to you."

                                    "And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you. Ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcass."

                                    I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                                      MUNZIR_ALI
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                                      "And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be cloven footed, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you".
                                      "Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcass shall ye not touch, they are unclean to you."

                                      "And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you. Ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcass."

                                      hey! so thats the verse prohibiting the flesh of the swine in the bible...And all this time I thought the bible permits humans to eat the flesh of the swine! wow

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                                        Ibrahim-Khalil
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                                        Munzir, u didnt know that? Now christians will tell u that "Moses' law" dont work no mo'

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                                          MUNZIR_ALI
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                                          Munzir, u didnt know that? Now christians will tell u that "Moses' law" dont work no mo' )

                                          Yeah I didn't know...I don't have a bible at my side because it is illegal in my country (maldives), I read the bible occasionally via internet

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