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The quraan & the amazing bukhari

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    Meteora
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    ^Heard that actually a few days ago.

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      No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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      Peace,
      Respectfully.

      I even heard that this Bukhary fella was a Jew because none of hadith talk about Christians ....

      Strange ....

      Peace.

      I am pretty sure that he was Zoraoastrian - remember, he was a Parsi.

      I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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        Meteora
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        Who thought "kouthar" was a river in Heaven. laugh

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          MUNZIR_ALI
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          Who thought "kouthar" was a river in Heaven. laugh

          I thought that, I mean the my islam teachers at school dictated that kouthar was a river in heaven in which God will give it to the prophet!

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            I am pretty sure that he was Zoraoastrian - remember, he was a Parsi.

            For some reason I thought he was Muslim?

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              Jafar
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              Peace,
              Respectfully.

              I even heard that this Bukhary fella was a Jew because none of hadith talk about Christians ....

              Strange ....

              Peace.

              FactBukhara wrotes a book called 'hadith'.
              FactThe book called 'hadith' talks a lot about the jews and doesn't talk about xtians.
              ConclusionBukhara must be a jew.

              Following the thought process as described above...

              FactMuhammad wrotes a book called "Quran" (regardless of where does Muhammad got his insipiration/source from)
              FactThe book called Quran talks a lot about the jews, infact nearly 60% of the content talks about the jews (Moshe, Iashua, Solomon, David etc..)
              Conclusion Muhammad must be a jew.
              Conclusion Muhammad's 'source'; the one that gives the inspiration to him on the Quran's content, must also be a Jew.

              Salam / Peace

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                FactBukhara wrotes a book called 'hadith'.
                FactThe book called 'hadith' talks a lot about the jews and doesn't talk about xtians.
                ConclusionBukhara must be a jew.

                Following the thought process as described above...

                FactMuhammad wrotes a book called "Quran" (regardless of where does Muhammad got his insipiration/source from)
                FactThe book called Quran talks a lot about the jews, infact nearly 60% of the content talks about the jews (Moshe, Iashua, Solomon, David etc..)
                Conclusion Muhammad must be a jew.
                Conclusion Muhammad's 'source'; the one that gives the inspiration to him on the Quran's content, must also be a Jew.

                Salam / Peace

                Peace,
                Respectfully.

                But prophet Muhammad never said he is the author of The Quran.
                In fact, ....

                6940 This is the utterance of an honorable messenger.
                6941 It is not the utterance of a poet; rarely do you believe.
                6942 Nor the utterance of a soothsayer; rarely do you take heed.
                6943 A revelation from the Lord of the worlds.
                6944 And had he attributed anything falsely to Us.b]
                6945 We would have seized him by the right.
                6946 Then, We would have severed his life-line.
                6947 None of you would be able to prevent it.

                Peace.

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                  No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                  Meteora, choose yo words man. There are a lot of good hadiths from Buhari collection. Simply, just respect other people beliefs.

                  From Rashad Khalifa's appendix "Hadith & Sunna - Satanic Innovations"

                  Some Muslims compromise "If a Hadith agrees with the Quran we will accept it, and if it contradicts the Quran, we will reject it!" Such premise proves that these people do not believe God's assertions that the Quran is"complete, perfect and fully detailed." The moment they seek guidance from anything besides the Quran, no matter how "right" it seems, they fall into Satan's trap (see 631). For they have rejected God's word and set up another god besides God (1857).

                  I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                    Jafar
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                    Peace,
                    Respectfully.

                    But prophet Muhammad never said he is the author of The Quran.

                    And Bukhara never said he is the author of the hadith..
                    He said Muhammad 'authored' them...

                    And following the thought process described above,
                    Then the "honorable messenger" and "lord of the worlds" must be a jew..

                    Summary the described thought process is a fallacy.. it doesn't prove Bukhara is actually a jew... it doesn't even indicate that bukhara is a jew.

                    Salam / Peace

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                      And Bukhara never said he is the author of the hadith..
                      He said Muhammad 'authored' them...

                      And following the thought process described above,
                      Then the "honorable messenger" and "lord of the worlds" must be a jew..

                      Summary the described thought process is a fallacy.. it doesn't prove Bukhara is actually a jew... it doesn't even indicate that bukhara is a jew.

                      Salam / Peace

                      My dear brother his name was Bukhari not Bukhara Bukhara is Province of Uzbekistan

                      His full name was Muhammad ibn Ismail al-Bukhari OR Muhammad Ibn Ismail Ibn Ibrahim Ibn al-Mughirah Ibn Bardizbah al-Bukhari
                      Regards
                      Afridi

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                        My dear brother his name was Bukhari not Bukhara Bukhara is Province of Uzbekistan

                        His full name was Muhammad ibn Ismail al-Bukhari OR Muhammad Ibn Ismail Ibn Ibrahim Ibn al-Mughirah Ibn Bardizbah al-Bukhari

                        Mate, I know... I'm following Meteora's 'recommendation'.. see his posting above..
                        Although I made a mistake I should address him a "Bullkhara"...

                        Since the time I've realized the bs in Bukhari's books I've decided to address him as "Bukhara" because I think it suited him more, "khara" in Arabic is slang for excrement or the Arabic translation of shit.

                        To me this sounds somewhat like "Bull-khara"; if we take the first word as English and the second, the pronounciation of the Arabic translation of "shit" we then get what is abundant in his books, bullshit..

                        Salam / Peace

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                          Mate, I know... I'm following Meteora's 'recommendation'.. see his posting above..
                          Although I made a mistake I should address him a "Bullkhara"...

                          Salam / Peace

                          yuck laugh

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                            Meteora
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                            Haha, awesome. Others should join as well.

                            Though let's not make fun of Bukhari or his hadith (even though Bukhari is dead nope) since a mod threaten to do something about it if we didn't stop (like ban maybe ) but I don't see how we still can't express our opinions.

                            IMO, Bukhari is not going to be happy on the day of resurrection. laugh

                            In a different way...

                            IMO, Bukhari's response on the day of resurrection will be "oh shit!" laugh

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                              IMO, Bukhari is not going to be happy on the day of resurrection. laugh

                              yes

                              IMO, Bukhari's response on the day of resurrection will be "oh shit!" laugh

                              laugh

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                                IMO, Bukhari's response on the day of resurrection will be "oh shit!" laugh

                                Peace,
                                Respectfully.

                                Today is June, 28th, 2009 and there are 1.5 billion sunnis and counting.
                                Can you imagine if they all plus all those behind them, from the past, said that?
                                Think about it. Such a mass of people to say one and the same word as they are all pushed into the HellFire .....

                                Peace.

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                                  Read )

                                  The ulema realize that they stand on empty lies. To cover one lie they create a thousand more lies. To divert attention from the fact that Bukhari is not the author of a complete collection of the fake hadith that is attributed to him, the Ahlul Sunnah ulema say that at least seventy full commentaries have been written on Imam al-Bukhari?s ?great Sahih?. How this helps prove their case is best left to the ulema to shuffle.

                                  According to the ulema, the most celebrated of these commentaries is ?without question the Fath al-Bari (?Victory of the Creator?) by Imam Ibn Hajar al-?Asqalani, a work which was the crown both of its genre and of the Imam?s academic career. It is appreciated by the ulema for the doctrinal soundness of its author, for its complete coverage of Bukhari?s material, its mastery of the relevant Arabic sciences, the wisdom it shows in drawing lessons (fawa?id) from the hadiths it expounds, and its skill in resolving complex disputes over variant readings. For Bukhari?s text has not come down to us in a single uniform version, but exists in several ?narrations? (riwayat), of which the version handed down by al-Kushmayhani (d.389) on the authority of Bukhari?s pupil al-Firabri is the one most frequently accepted by the ulema?.

                                  By the ulema?s own admission their collection of fake Bukhari hadith is compiled from a ?commentary? on Bukhari by another fellow by the name of Ibnu Hajar Al Askalani.

                                  But this fellow Ibnu Hajar never met Bukhari because according to the ulema Ibnu Hajar Askalani lived and died in 852 AH which is 596 years after Bukhari who is supposed to have lived and died in 256 AH. The ulema say Bukhari never wrote down a completed book. There were no printing presses or photocopy machines or computers available at that time. And 596 years separated Ibnu Hajar from Bukhari. So how did Ibnu Hajar write a commentary about a book that never existed?

                                  And...

                                  And this is what the ulema say about Ibn Hajar?s commentary on Bukhari hadith

                                  ?Ibn Hajar frequently uses the Kushmayhani variant as his standard text, but gives his reasons, often in complex detail, for preferring other readings where these seem to have particular merit. In doing this he makes it clear that he is authorised, through the ijaza-system, for all the riwayat he cites?.
                                  In other words Ibnu Hajar Askalani merely patched together HIS idea of what he thought the Sahih Bukhari should be. This is because there were variances in the available Bukhari hadeeth. It is just guesswork. This is what they have today which they call the Sahih Bukhari.

                                  Still not over!

                                  And again despite talking so much about the fake Bukhari hadith the ulema still say that ? there are few hadith which can be understood adequately without reference to the often complex debates which have taken place concerning them between the scholars. ?

                                  According to the ulema few hadith can be understood without referring to the complex debates among the ulema. This is a lark. The ulema say that the hadith explains the Quran. Now they say without their complex debates you cannot even understand the hadith.
                                  We are expected to believe that the Almighty GOD who created the universe, the sky, the animals and the humans will now have to depend on the complex debates between the ulema before the human being can understand the Quran ? GOD?s guidance for mankind. Such arrogant boasts by the ulema can only arise from extreme kuffar.

                                  rotfl

                                  Taken from http//pressthat.wordpress.com/2007/09/06/hadith-plagiarized-from-the-bible/

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                                    Meteora
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                                    Holy tears in my eyes! I find one new interesting hadith after another! rotfl rotfl rotfl

                                    From the same link

                                    Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 5 Narrated ?Ata We presented ourselves along with Ibn ?Abbas at the funeral procession of Maimuna at a place called Sarif. Ibn ?Abbas said, ?This is the wife of the Prophet so when you lift her bier, do not Jerk it or shake it much, but walk smoothly because the Prophet had nine wives and he used to observe the night turns with eight of them, and for one of them there was no night turn.?

                                    This is a mystery.

                                    Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 6 Narrated Anas The Prophet used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives.

                                    But the other hadith just said someone missed a turn.

                                    Aisha said to the Prophet, ?Ah! My head is bursting.? He said, ?I wish it did.? Aisha responded ?You want me to die so that you can spend the next night with another wife? (Bukhari, Book of Medicine, vol.3).

                                    Maybe Aishah was the woman who did not get her turn that particular night?

                                    rotfl bravo

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                                      More racist hadith from Bukhari

                                      Seeing a black woman in a dream is the sign of an oncoming epidemic (Bukhari Kitabul Ta?abir).

                                      Explanation of weather though most already know about this one rotfl

                                      The hellfire complained to GOD, ?One part of me is eating the other part.? So, the hellfire was allowed two breaths ? one in summer and one in winter. That is how you see the change of seasons (Bukhari, Beginning of Creation 2231).

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                                        More racist hadith from Bukhari )

                                        Seeing a black woman in a dream is the sign of an oncoming epidemic (Bukhari Kitabul Ta?abir).

                                        '(

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                                          Meteora
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                                          I made an edit btw.

                                          Yes it's sad Prophet Muhammad was racist!! '(

                                          Edit oh man...I keep coming here after almost each sentence I read from the "Hadith plagiarized from the Bible" article! So freaking funny!!!

                                          Azan, (the call to prayer), puts Satan to flight, expelling gas as he runs away (Bukhari Beginning of Creation 2237).

                                          Satan should not eat so much Jalapeno beans.

                                          In this version of the hadith of Satan farting he's using his GAS to achieve flight! ROFLCOPTER! rotfl

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