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The quraan & the amazing bukhari

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    Ibrahim-Khalil
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    Meteora, choose yo words man. There are a lot of good hadiths from Buhari collection. Simply, just respect other people beliefs.

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      MUNZIR_ALI
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      Meteora, choose yo words man. There are a lot of good hadiths from Buhari collection. Simply, just respect other people beliefs.

      But we don't even have to read bukhari's good hadhises because the quran says it is complete!

      peace

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        Meteora
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        I said it is abundant in his books. C'mon dude, if something is in Bukhari that is against the Quran it is what it is, bs. However I'll try not to make fun of him (or his books) anymore, if that'll make anyone feel better.

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          Ibrahim-Khalil
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          Munzir, i agree with u. Meteora, not EVERYTHING in hadithes is against Quran.

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            Meteora
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            Very true, but whatever that is attributed to God and his Messenger, if it isn't in accordance to the Quran must be rejected by me. jedi

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              Alen
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              So what?

              Bukhari collected hadith 230 years after the Prophet Muhammad. Let's assume (in other words, let's swallow the lies of his public relations managers) that he could memorize like my digital voice recorder. So what? As long as all those hearsay reporters before Bukhari were not digital voice recorders like Bukhari then all we can say about that "inhuman" digital voice recorder called Bukhari is the following He has memorized perfectly a great deal of hearsay, stupid stories and lies. Good for him!

              Peace,
              Edip

              Peace,
              Respectfully.

              I even heard that this Bukhary fella was a Jew because none of hadith talk about Christians ....

              Strange ....

              Peace.

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                Meteora
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                ^Heard that actually a few days ago.

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                  No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                  Peace,
                  Respectfully.

                  I even heard that this Bukhary fella was a Jew because none of hadith talk about Christians ....

                  Strange ....

                  Peace.

                  I am pretty sure that he was Zoraoastrian - remember, he was a Parsi.

                  I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                    Meteora
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                    Who thought "kouthar" was a river in Heaven. laugh

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                      MUNZIR_ALI
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                      Who thought "kouthar" was a river in Heaven. laugh

                      I thought that, I mean the my islam teachers at school dictated that kouthar was a river in heaven in which God will give it to the prophet!

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                        aynur
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                        I am pretty sure that he was Zoraoastrian - remember, he was a Parsi.

                        For some reason I thought he was Muslim?

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                          Jafar
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                          Peace,
                          Respectfully.

                          I even heard that this Bukhary fella was a Jew because none of hadith talk about Christians ....

                          Strange ....

                          Peace.

                          FactBukhara wrotes a book called 'hadith'.
                          FactThe book called 'hadith' talks a lot about the jews and doesn't talk about xtians.
                          ConclusionBukhara must be a jew.

                          Following the thought process as described above...

                          FactMuhammad wrotes a book called "Quran" (regardless of where does Muhammad got his insipiration/source from)
                          FactThe book called Quran talks a lot about the jews, infact nearly 60% of the content talks about the jews (Moshe, Iashua, Solomon, David etc..)
                          Conclusion Muhammad must be a jew.
                          Conclusion Muhammad's 'source'; the one that gives the inspiration to him on the Quran's content, must also be a Jew.

                          Salam / Peace

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                            FactBukhara wrotes a book called 'hadith'.
                            FactThe book called 'hadith' talks a lot about the jews and doesn't talk about xtians.
                            ConclusionBukhara must be a jew.

                            Following the thought process as described above...

                            FactMuhammad wrotes a book called "Quran" (regardless of where does Muhammad got his insipiration/source from)
                            FactThe book called Quran talks a lot about the jews, infact nearly 60% of the content talks about the jews (Moshe, Iashua, Solomon, David etc..)
                            Conclusion Muhammad must be a jew.
                            Conclusion Muhammad's 'source'; the one that gives the inspiration to him on the Quran's content, must also be a Jew.

                            Salam / Peace

                            Peace,
                            Respectfully.

                            But prophet Muhammad never said he is the author of The Quran.
                            In fact, ....

                            6940 This is the utterance of an honorable messenger.
                            6941 It is not the utterance of a poet; rarely do you believe.
                            6942 Nor the utterance of a soothsayer; rarely do you take heed.
                            6943 A revelation from the Lord of the worlds.
                            6944 And had he attributed anything falsely to Us.b]
                            6945 We would have seized him by the right.
                            6946 Then, We would have severed his life-line.
                            6947 None of you would be able to prevent it.

                            Peace.

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                              No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                              Meteora, choose yo words man. There are a lot of good hadiths from Buhari collection. Simply, just respect other people beliefs.

                              From Rashad Khalifa's appendix "Hadith & Sunna - Satanic Innovations"

                              Some Muslims compromise "If a Hadith agrees with the Quran we will accept it, and if it contradicts the Quran, we will reject it!" Such premise proves that these people do not believe God's assertions that the Quran is"complete, perfect and fully detailed." The moment they seek guidance from anything besides the Quran, no matter how "right" it seems, they fall into Satan's trap (see 631). For they have rejected God's word and set up another god besides God (1857).

                              I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                                Jafar
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                                Peace,
                                Respectfully.

                                But prophet Muhammad never said he is the author of The Quran.

                                And Bukhara never said he is the author of the hadith..
                                He said Muhammad 'authored' them...

                                And following the thought process described above,
                                Then the "honorable messenger" and "lord of the worlds" must be a jew..

                                Summary the described thought process is a fallacy.. it doesn't prove Bukhara is actually a jew... it doesn't even indicate that bukhara is a jew.

                                Salam / Peace

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                                  afridi220
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                                  And Bukhara never said he is the author of the hadith..
                                  He said Muhammad 'authored' them...

                                  And following the thought process described above,
                                  Then the "honorable messenger" and "lord of the worlds" must be a jew..

                                  Summary the described thought process is a fallacy.. it doesn't prove Bukhara is actually a jew... it doesn't even indicate that bukhara is a jew.

                                  Salam / Peace

                                  My dear brother his name was Bukhari not Bukhara Bukhara is Province of Uzbekistan

                                  His full name was Muhammad ibn Ismail al-Bukhari OR Muhammad Ibn Ismail Ibn Ibrahim Ibn al-Mughirah Ibn Bardizbah al-Bukhari
                                  Regards
                                  Afridi

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                                    Jafar
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                                    My dear brother his name was Bukhari not Bukhara Bukhara is Province of Uzbekistan

                                    His full name was Muhammad ibn Ismail al-Bukhari OR Muhammad Ibn Ismail Ibn Ibrahim Ibn al-Mughirah Ibn Bardizbah al-Bukhari

                                    Mate, I know... I'm following Meteora's 'recommendation'.. see his posting above..
                                    Although I made a mistake I should address him a "Bullkhara"...

                                    Since the time I've realized the bs in Bukhari's books I've decided to address him as "Bukhara" because I think it suited him more, "khara" in Arabic is slang for excrement or the Arabic translation of shit.

                                    To me this sounds somewhat like "Bull-khara"; if we take the first word as English and the second, the pronounciation of the Arabic translation of "shit" we then get what is abundant in his books, bullshit..

                                    Salam / Peace

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                                      afridi220
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                                      Mate, I know... I'm following Meteora's 'recommendation'.. see his posting above..
                                      Although I made a mistake I should address him a "Bullkhara"...

                                      Salam / Peace

                                      yuck laugh

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                                        Meteora
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                                        Haha, awesome. Others should join as well.

                                        Though let's not make fun of Bukhari or his hadith (even though Bukhari is dead nope) since a mod threaten to do something about it if we didn't stop (like ban maybe ) but I don't see how we still can't express our opinions.

                                        IMO, Bukhari is not going to be happy on the day of resurrection. laugh

                                        In a different way...

                                        IMO, Bukhari's response on the day of resurrection will be "oh shit!" laugh

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                                          MUNZIR_ALI
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                                          IMO, Bukhari is not going to be happy on the day of resurrection. laugh

                                          yes

                                          IMO, Bukhari's response on the day of resurrection will be "oh shit!" laugh

                                          laugh

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