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IS THERE EXTRA TERRESTRIAL LIFE

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    No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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    2788 Thou seest the mountains and thinkest them firmly fixed but they shall pass away as the clouds pass away (such is) the artistry of Allah, who disposes of all things in perfect order for he is well acquainted with all that ye do.

    I admit that this verse apparently says that the Earth is moving, but note that it is referring to the mountains alone but in reality we think that the whole Earth is fixed not just the mountains. Also note that God is comparing it to the clouds, but where clouds actually disappear, the mountains doesn't as YOU supposedly move with it. So the mountains doesn't get out of your sight. So what is going on here? This verse is actually talking about the Last Day. A scary scene I might add. Look at the mountains, they are rigid right, when God comes with angels you will find that these mountains will disappear like the clouds so the Earth will be levelled. Just read the previous verse

    2787 And the Day that the Trumpet will be sounded - then will be smitten with terror those who are in the heavens, and those who are on earth, except such as Allah will please (to exempt) and all shall come to His (Presence) as beings conscious of their lowliness.

    Next verse

    3640 It is not permitted to the Sun to catch up the Moon, nor can the Night outstrip the Day Each swims along in its own orbit.

    Actually this verse proves that the Sun and the Moon are racing each other but they don't overtake. If the sun is moving toward the solar apex yada yada yada, then this overtaking business is meaningless.

    Next

    395 He created the heavens and the earth in true (proportions) He makes the Night overlap the Day, and the Day overlap the Night He has subjected the sun and the moon (to His law) Each one follows a course for a time appointed. Is not He the Exalted in Power - He Who forgives again and again?

    Again, the Sun is running a course. It is most probably a north-south spiral that goes to and forth which explains the seasons.

    Next verse please

    681 Nun. By the Pen and the Record which men write.

    OK. Next please.

    7930 And the earth, moreover, hath He extended (to a wide expanse);

    That is irrelevant to the fixity of the Earth but it is a very interesting verse. The Heavens are like a tent that was raised up then the carpet that was placed in the base of the tent is the Earth. One will ask what was in this space before. Water. His throne was on water. Some speculate that these cosmic waters are simply hydrogen and from hydrogen all elements were created.

    Next Modern-Age skeptic

    Could you tell what exactly is gravity? Physicists are trying very hard to rationalize this mystical force.

    At the time being, they take it for granted and call it gravity.

    7930 He made the earth egg-shaped.

    395 He created the heavens and the earth with truth. He rolls the night over the day, and He rolls the day over the night. He committed the sun and the moon, each running for an appointed term. Absolutely, He is the Noble, the Forgiving.

    2788 You see the mountains, you think they are solid, while they are passing by like the clouds. The making of God who perfected everything. He is Ever-aware of what you do.

    I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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      MUNZIR_ALI
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      Thanks for the information rami!

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        Alen
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        could there be life outside our planet Earth?

        peace

        Peace,
        Respectfully.

        Of course. Didn't you see Aliens? brickwall
        Sorry, just kidding.

        There are several theories
        we might not recognise it, if we are encountred by them. (Ghost)
        They might live outside our sphere.
        They might be too big for us to notice them or too small.
        They might not want a contact with us, because we are still immature.

        There are several movies that made a good point to this. Serious movies
        Sphere,
        Contact,
        2001A Space Odyssey,
        E.T.The Extra Terrestrial,

        well, ....
        Here's the link
        http//www.the-numbers.com/movies/series/ScienceFiction.php

        Some writers have given a good idea what would happen, if we actually made contact with possible life in the universe. Independence Day was one bad contact.
        The Abyss was the best but i prefer the alternate ending, which i cannot find it anymore on the youtueb, sadly, i don't know why 20th Century Fox didn't like it ....?

        Peace.

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          MUNZIR_ALI
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          E.T.The Extra Terrestrial,

          E.T. is a great movie, Its old but its great! yes bravo

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            Rev_John
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            There is a very good chance that we have already found life elsewhere but do not recognize it as life because it does not conform to our very limited knowledge of what life is.

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              MUNZIR_ALI
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              There is a very good chance that we have already found life elsewhere but do not recognize it as life because it does not conform to our very limited knowledge of what life is.

              yes I agree! Do you think there might be life in europa's Subsurface ocean?

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                Rev_John
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                yes I agree! Do you think there might be life in europa's Subsurface ocean?

                There is a very good chance. They have also recently discovered that one of the small moons of Saturn contains vast amounts of water. Just our solar system my be teaming with life, and, if that is so, the universe must be also.

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                  MUNZIR_ALI
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                  There is a very good chance. They have also recently discovered that one of the small moons of Saturn contains vast amounts of water. Just our solar system my be teaming with life, and, if that is so, the universe must be also.

                  When you say that, I feel good! muscle

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                    Rev_John
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                    When you say that, I feel good! muscle

                    But there is a good chance that we will never see life that we can communicate with. We can't even communicate with other life forms on the Earth. (

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                      MUNZIR_ALI
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                      But there is a good chance that we will never see life that we can communicate with. We can't even communicate with other life forms on the Earth. (

                      '(

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                        Alen
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                        But there is a good chance that we will never see life that we can communicate with. We can't even communicate with other life forms on the Earth. (

                        Peace,
                        Respectfully.

                        Not entirely true. We here on this forum can communicate and make friends more then people who meet in person, Thank God for that. I have met several members form this forum and spoken to some over the phone and therefore made excellent progress. Thank God.

                        Peace.

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                          Rev_John
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                          Peace,
                          Respectfully.

                          Not entirely true. We here on this forum can communicate and make friends more then people who meet in person, Thank God for that. I have met several members form this forum and spoken to some over the phone and therefore made excellent progress. Thank God.

                          Peace.

                          That is human life. We are talking about alien life

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                            afridi220
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                            That is human life. We are talking about alien life

                            You mean cartoons yay

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                              MUNZIR_ALI
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                              You mean cartoons yay

                              nope but rotfl

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                                Rev_John
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                                You mean cartoons yay

                                rotfl rotfl

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                                  Alen
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                                  That is human life. We are talking about alien life

                                  Peace,
                                  Respectfully.

                                  Alien to us, alien is just a word we have for describing something that is unknown to us but let's view the human race from the point of view of a cat s/he lives in the world where the tall creatures give them food, shelter and occasionaly pet them. Cats believe in cleanliness, which is why they remove the rats and mice or maybe they remove them because they wanna be superior in the house.

                                  Peace.

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                                    Rev_John
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                                    Peace,
                                    Respectfully.

                                    Alien to us, alien is just a word we have for describing something that is unknown to us but let's view the human race from the point of view of a cat s/he lives in the world where the tall creatures give them food, shelter and occasionaly pet them. Cats believe in cleanliness, which is why they remove the rats and mice or maybe they remove them because they wanna be superior in the house.

                                    Peace.

                                    Maybe I should have said extraterrestrial life.

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                                      MUNZIR_ALI
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                                      Maybe I should have said extraterrestrial life.

                                      yes

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                                        Jafar
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                                        Maybe I should have said extraterrestrial life.

                                        Perhaps the so-called "Angels" is also a form of extra-terrestrial life... (those who named by 'earthling' as Gabriel, Mikhael and friends)

                                        There's a 'story' (bluntly speaking a myth) in the bible that Jesus "ascended to heaven"?
                                        Reading the story in the bible, it seems this Jesus guy was pulled up by some kind of a star-trekisque 'tractor beam', back to the 'mothership'.. and also the story of 'angels descended from heaven'.. (another push by the tractor beam perhaps?).

                                        2000 years ago, when some human saw 'intelligent being' descended from heaven, they will call it "Angel Sightings" / "Gods Sightings".
                                        But now they called it "Alien Sightings". That's why they think "God" is supposedly residing in "heaven"/"sky".

                                        An intelligent creature / life outside earth is very much possible, given the following circumstances

                                        • There are BILLIONS of Galaxies
                                        • There are Millions of stars / stellar systems on each galaxy
                                        • Possibly there are plenty of planets inside each of those stellar systems.

                                        The thing is

                                        • We can't say that there is no ET until we have explored all of the planets in all of the stellar systems in all of the galaxies.
                                        • We can't say that there is ET until we've found an evidence of life sustaining planets with a living ET living inside it.
                                        • For the moment the answer is UNKNOWN

                                        Salam / Peace

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                                          Rev_John
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                                          Perhaps the so-called "Angels" is also a form of extra-terrestrial life... (those who named by 'earthling' as Gabriel, Mikhael and friends)

                                          If they do not come from Earth then of course they are.

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