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    Rev_John
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    Just out of interest, in the obligation the Queen (God bless her) made at her coronation, the Queen swore to be the "defender of the faith" (Church of England). Prince Charles has said, it should be "defender of faiths" because of the multi-cultural make up of the United Kingdom.

    What is your opinion?
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      salgan
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      Peace rev.john or rev

      Why do we need a queen or king to defend any faith or faith.A individual should be able to defend ones faith if they truly believ in there faith.

      Peace Salim
      live long and prosper

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        Rev_John
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        Peace rev.john or rev

        Why do we need a queen or king to defend any faith or faith.A individual should be able to defend ones faith if they truly believ in there faith.

        Peace Salim
        live long and prosper

        That is a good point. The original wording was added to ensure that England did not revert to being a Catholic country, but I believe that wording is now out of date.

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          MUNZIR_ALI
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          That is a good point. The original wording was added to ensure that England did not revert to being a Catholic country, but I believe that wording is now out of date.

          Er.. can I ask a question..What is the main difference between a protestant and a catholic?

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            Rev_John
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            Er.. can I ask a question..What is the main difference between a protestant and a catholic?

            Good question. There are many differences but the main ones are that Protestants do not accept the Pope as head of the Christian Church, nor do most of them accept Mary as anything more than the mother of Jesus. They do not pray to Mary or any of the saints as Catholics do. Some will still pray to Jesus and believe Jesus is "God incarnate" and others don't. Most allow their Priests, Ministers or whatever they call them, to marry, Catholics don't. There are many, many more. There are also the Eastern Orthodox Churches and the Anglo-Catholic Church that lie somewhere in between. .... Confused? Me too! hmm

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              MUNZIR_ALI
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              Good question. There are many differences but the main ones are that Protestants do not accept the Pope as head of the Christian Church, nor do most of them accept Mary as anything more than the mother of Jesus. They do not pray to Mary or any of the saints as Catholics do. Some will still pray to Jesus and believe Jesus is "God incarnate" and others don't. Most allow their Priests, Ministers or whatever they call them, to marry, Catholics don't. There are many, many more. There are also the Eastern Orthodox Churches and the Anglo-Catholic Church that lie somewhere in between. .... Confused? Me too! hmm

              so they are unorthodox?

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                MUNZIR_ALI
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                Good question. There are many differences but the main ones are that Protestants do not accept the Pope as head of the Christian Church, nor do most of them accept Mary as anything more than the mother of Jesus. They do not pray to Mary or any of the saints as Catholics do. Some will still pray to Jesus and believe Jesus is "God incarnate" and others don't. Most allow their Priests, Ministers or whatever they call them, to marry, Catholics don't. There are many, many more. There are also the Eastern Orthodox Churches and the Anglo-Catholic Church that lie somewhere in between. .... Confused? Me too! hmm

                Whats your view on opus dei? voodoo

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                  Rev_John
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                  Whats your view on opus dei? voodoo

                  Opus Dei is a Catholic sect that is very strict and sometimes brutal (Sound familiar?) they were founded by a Spanish Priest and are more fundamental than the mainstream Catholic church.

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                    MUNZIR_ALI
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                    Opus Dei is a Catholic sect that is very strict and sometimes brutal (Sound familiar?) they were founded by a Spanish Priest and are more fundamental than the mainstream Catholic church.

                    I've heared that they actually perform corporal mortification! voodoo Do they wear a hair shirt? peace

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                      I've heared that they actually perform corporal mortification! voodoo Do they wear a hair shirt? peace

                      Yes they do (well, the more committed of them)

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                        Peace,
                        Respectfully.

                        I believe that the queen of England should first read The Quran, read hadith as much as she can, needless to say, there are too many of them to be read and then decide. I'm sure that she will choose wisely, God willing and defend The Faith - Islam. I'm sure of it. I mean, in UK we have more freedom then anywhere in the Mid-East and even in some other countries in Europe.

                        Glory be to our God, THe Most Wise,
                        Glory be to our God, THe Most Powerful.
                        Peace.

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                          MUNZIR_ALI
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                          Peace,
                          Respectfully.

                          I believe that the queen of England should first read The Quran, read hadith as much as she can, needless to say, there are too many of them to be read and then decide. I'm sure that she will choose wisely, God willing and defend The Faith - Islam.

                          bravo yes

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                            Rev_John
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                            Peace,
                            Respectfully.

                            I believe that the queen of England should first read The Quran, read hadith as much as she can, needless to say, there are too many of them to be read and then decide. I'm sure that she will choose wisely, God willing and defend The Faith - Islam. I'm sure of it. I mean, in UK we have more freedom then anywhere in the Mid-East and even in some other countries in Europe.

                            Glory be to our God, THe Most Wise,
                            Glory be to our God, THe Most Powerful.
                            Peace.

                            That is not going to happen, she is a devout Christian.

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                              That is not going to happen, she is a devout Christian.

                              Peace,
                              Respectfully.

                              I remember new year's 1998.
                              I was in germany with my relatives.
                              I never even dreamt that one day World Trade center will collapse, that Saddam will be hanging out with US troops, literally, that Britney will shave her head, that i will be banned from London central Mosque for being a Muslim.

                              How can we possibly know what will come next?

                              Peace.

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                                MUNZIR_ALI
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                                Peace,
                                Respectfully.

                                I remember new year's 1998.
                                I was in germany with my relatives.
                                I never even dreamt that one day World Trade center will collapse, that Saddam will be hanging out with US troops, literally, that Britney will shave her head, that i will be banned from London central Mosque for being a Muslim.

                                How can we possibly know what will come next?

                                Peace.

                                yay bravo

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                                  Rev_John
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                                  Peace,
                                  Respectfully.

                                  I remember new year's 1998.
                                  I was in germany with my relatives.
                                  I never even dreamt that one day World Trade center will collapse, that Saddam will be hanging out with US troops, literally, that Britney will shave her head, that i will be banned from London central Mosque for being a Muslim.

                                  How can we possibly know what will come next?

                                  Peace.

                                  That is true, we can never know what is in God's mind.

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