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A Question About Jinns

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    MUNZIR_ALI
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    So he discovered the numerical pattern by chance and decided to announce that he is a messanger? hmm

    poor anthony

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      Where is the Sabbath?!??

      Peace Rami,

      Forget about the Sabbath (whatever it means).

      I believe that if one concentrates only on these simple instructions that are valid for all times, places and people, and uphold them, then it would more that enough to be on the safe side. No need to add any weird acrobatics, privations or "holy" practices.

      Here are the same commands with more details

      1722 Do not make with God another god, or you will find yourself disgraced, abandoned.

      1723 And your Lord decreed that you shall not serve except Him, and do good to your parents. When one of them or both of them reach old age, do not say to them a word of disrespect nor raise your voice at them, but say to them a kind saying.

      1724 And lower for them the wing of humility through mercy, and say ?My Lord, have mercy upon them as they have raised me when I was small.?

      1725 Your Lord is fully aware of what is in your souls. If you are good, then He is to the obedient a Forgiver.

      1726 And give the relative his due, and the poor, and the wayfarer; and do not waste excessively.

      1727 Those who waste excessively are brothers to the devils, and the devil was to his Lord a rejecter.

      1728 And if you turn away from them to seek a mercy from your Lord which you desire, then say to them a gentle saying.

      1729 And do not make your hand stingy by holding it to your neck, nor shall you lay it fully open so you become in despair and regret.

      1730 Your Lord lays out openly the provision for whom He wishes, and He is able to do so. He is Expert and Watcher to His servants.

      1731 And do not kill your children out of fear of poverty; We shall provide for you and them. The killing of them was a big mistake.

      1732 And do not come near adultery, for it is a sin and an evil path.

      1733 And do not kill, for God has made this forbidden, except in the course of justice. And whoever is killed unjustly, then We have given his heir authority, so let him not transgress in the taking of a life, for He will be given victory.

      1734 And do not come near the orphan?s money, except for that which is best, until he reaches his independence. And fulfill your oath, for the oath brings responsibility.

      1735 And give full measure when you deal, and weigh with a balance that is straight. That is good and better in the end.

      1736 And do not uphold what you have no knowledge of. For the hearing, eyesight, and mind, all these you are responsible for.

      1737 And do not walk in the land arrogantly, for you will not penetrate the Earth, nor will you reach the mountains in height.

      1738 All of this is bad, and disliked by your Lord.

      1739 That is from what your Lord has inspired to you of the wisdom. And do not make with God another god, or you will be cast into Hell, blameworthy and regretting.

      It is as simple as that.

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        Rami
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        What about the feasts and the holy house?

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          What about the feasts and the holy house?

          Peace Rami,

          The most important point is to uphold these commands. This is what will bring all the good to the person and the community.

          After that, you can have feasts, houses.... but holy??? for what? and what makes a thing "holy"?

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            Rami
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            Peace Rami,

            The most important point is to uphold these commands. This is what will bring all the good to the person and the community.

            After that, you can have feasts, houses.... but holy??? for what? and what makes a thing "holy"?

            'Holy' doesn't mean better but different. It's the special function that makes it 'holy'.

            Agreed that to be a good person you have to follow the commandments but we are obligated with the Law and the Statutes.

            What you are talking about is the Mitzva only or 'Al-Hikma-wisdom'.

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              No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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              So he discovered the numerical pattern by chance and decided to announce that he is a messanger? hmm

              I wouldnt say that he discovered it "by chance". MOre like God guided him to translate it and then he found the mathematical pattern/structure.

              Did you know that (nearly) all Muslims were astounded by his findings. They praised him and wrote books about him. Ahmad Deedat wrote Al Quran The Miracle of Miracles. In fact the traditionalists only cut their relationships with Rashad Khalifa and the miracle when RK said that Hadith and Sunna are satanic innovations and that he is a messenger.

              Do you think they only oppoed him because he declared himself as a messenger? No! They also/mostly opposed him because he was fighting against Hadith and Sunna and advocated the worship of God ALONE and the adherence/following of the Quran ALONE. Also because he called the Sunni/Shia prayer "idolatry" and he rightly said that mentioning other names beside God's in the contact prayer is idolatry.

              I'll give you an example If I tell you "you suck and everthing you do is bad" while you know that I am successful, etc. etc. and make discoveries and so on, will you praise me? Will you think that my findings, works, accomplishments, sayings, etc. are good? Or will you attack/ignore/counter/argue/spread lies about me?

              Take this example and compare it with the Rashad Khalifa vs. Traditionalists example. I'm sure you will see connections.

              Then what is wrong with anthony why not accepting him poor anthony (

              rotfl

              Why are you not accepting him? laugh

              I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                Rev_John
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                rotfl

                Why are you not accepting him? laugh

                Because he's nuts?

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                  I wouldnt say that he discovered it "by chance". MOre like God guided him to translate it and then he found the mathematical pattern/structure.

                  Did you know that (nearly) all Muslims were astounded by his findings. They praised him and wrote books about him. Ahmad Deedat wrote Al Quran The Miracle of Miracles. In fact the traditionalists only cut their relationships with Rashad Khalifa and the miracle when RK said that Hadith and Sunna are satanic innovations and that he is a messenger.

                  Do you think they only oppoed him because he declared himself as a messenger? No! They also/mostly opposed him because he was fighting against Hadith and Sunna and advocated the worship of God ALONE and the adherence/following of the Quran ALONE. Also because he called the Sunni/Shia prayer "idolatry" and he rightly said that mentioning other names beside God's in the contact prayer is idolatry.

                  I'll give you an example If I tell you "you suck and everthing you do is bad" while you know that I am successful, etc. etc. and make discoveries and so on, will you praise me? Will you think that my findings, works, accomplishments, sayings, etc. are good? Or will you attack/ignore/counter/argue/spread lies about me?

                  Take this example and compare it with the Rashad Khalifa vs. Traditionalists example. I'm sure you will see connections.

                  rotfl

                  Why are you not accepting him? laugh

                  Because he fails to deliver me a pizza eat

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                    MUNZIR_ALI
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                    Because he fails to deliver me a pizza eat

                    eat rotfl

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                      Because he fails to deliver me a pizza eat

                      Pepperoni please. rotfl

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                        nsws1988
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                        Pepperoni please. rotfl

                        Me too! yay ooooh and stuffed crust!

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                          No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                          I'm not the kind of person who likes to break fun, but can someone please read my post again

                          I wouldnt say that he discovered it "by chance". MOre like God guided him to translate it and then he found the mathematical pattern/structure.

                          Did you know that (nearly) all Muslims were astounded by his findings. They praised him and wrote books about him. Ahmad Deedat wrote Al Quran The Miracle of Miracles. In fact the traditionalists only cut their relationships with Rashad Khalifa and the miracle when RK said that Hadith and Sunna are satanic innovations and that he is a messenger.

                          Do you think they only oppoed him because he declared himself as a messenger? No! They also/mostly opposed him because he was fighting against Hadith and Sunna and advocated the worship of God ALONE and the adherence/following of the Quran ALONE. Also because he called the Sunni/Shia prayer "idolatry" and he rightly said that mentioning other names beside God's in the contact prayer is idolatry.

                          I'll give you an example If I tell you "you suck and everthing you do is bad" while you know that I am successful, etc. etc. and make discoveries and so on, will you praise me? Will you think that my findings, works, accomplishments, sayings, etc. are good? Or will you attack/ignore/counter/argue/spread lies about me?

                          Take this example and compare it with the Rashad Khalifa vs. Traditionalists example. I'm sure you will see connections.

                          Is AW doing anything near to what Rashad Khalifa did? I feel ashamed even comparing Anthony with Rashad.

                          Peace

                          I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                            afridi220
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                            I'm not the kind of person who likes to break fun, but can someone please read my post again

                            Is AW doing anything near to what Rashad Khalifa did? I feel ashamed even comparing Anthony with Rashad.

                            Peace

                            Cool down dud ;D

                            peace

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                              No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                              Cool down dud ;D

                              peace

                              D

                              No worries, just wanted to make my point clear

                              peace

                              I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                                afridi220
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                                No worries, just wanted to make my point clear

                                peace

                                Your right there is a big difference between Anthony and Rashad D Anthony did not delete any verse -*

                                yes

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                                  No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                                  Your right there is a big difference between Anthony and Rashad D Anthony did not delete any verse -*

                                  yes

                                  Should I tell you another difference?
                                  Rashad Khalifa spoke out against the traditionalists and advocated the worship of God ALONE and the adherence to the Quran ALONE. He went out in public and spoke out against a billion of sectarian "Muslims" and told them that their salat is partly shirk, which is true. Eventually, he even got assassinated for the Quran alone, God alone ideology/Islam.

                                  So yes, there is a big difference between Rashad Khalifa and Anthony who browses around in this forum insulting and annoying others.

                                  Peace

                                  I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                                    Rev_John
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                                    Anthony who browses around in this forum insulting and annoying others.

                                    bravo

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                                      MUNZIR_ALI
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                                      Should I tell you another difference?
                                      Rashad Khalifa spoke out against the traditionalists and advocated the worship of God ALONE and the adherence to the Quran ALONE. He went out in public and spoke out against a billion of sectarian "Muslims" and told them that their salat is partly shirk, which is true. Eventually, he even got assassinated for the Quran alone, God alone ideology/Islam.

                                      So yes, there is a big difference between Rashad Khalifa and Anthony who browses around in this forum insulting and annoying others.

                                      Peace

                                      bravo handshake thanks for information!

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                                        No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                                        bravo handshake thanks for information!

                                        handshake

                                        1781 Say, "The truth has come and falsehood has perished. Falsehood is always bound to perish!"

                                        peace

                                        I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                                          Rev_John
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                                          handshake

                                          1781 Say, "The truth has come and falsehood has perished. Falsehood is always bound to perish!"

                                          peace

                                          bravo

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