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Sura 105 AlFeel

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    Prince
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    From lack of response, can I assume that all interested ones were able to find meanings of this first word as Verily, surely and truly? If so may I proceed with next words?

    Badar

    Sorry for the delayed response. Can you please continue with the full explanation rather than word for word as it would take a very long time replying back n forth.

    PEACE

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      bkanwar2
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      Just to continue next word is this word in my humble opinion should be and is missing its teshdeed.

      This word means recourse to utmost effort, or endeavor,

      http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume1/00000337.pdf

      For next word in the verse; I would suggest that you all please review my discussions about principles of Jezm, Sukoon and teshdeed done on this forum over last several months.

      The word is combination of two words due to Jezm, meaning ?he dreaded the thing and abstained from it through cowardice? and is used in place of personal pronoun
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      http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume7/00000166.pdf
      http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume6/00000105.pdf

      Badar

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        For next word which is ,I would like to request all interested readers to please read in this order on first link, followed by on second link and lastly . This will give you an idea why I chose meanings ?excelled like a stallion in a herd?

        http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume2/00000066.pdf
        http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume6/00000204.pdf
        http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume4/00000456.pdf

        To continue, hope you are following the references.

        Badar

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          Next so called word, is a combination of and personal pronoun . Please see links in order below.

          http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume3/00000168.pdf
          and few pages after this one

          http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume7/00000109.pdf

          To be continued.

          Badar

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            Continued from the pervious post. The next word in order is it is a combination of preposition , followed by word a word with hamza (I can not type hemza over alif with key board I am using) followed by plural of root , with a Jezm on suggesting first Alif with Hemza is not part of word . Although, E. Lane seems suggesting it differently. Anybody with advance Arabic knowledge should be able to understand what I am saying. Otherwise, if desired, I shall explain it as well.

            http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume4/00000376.pdf
            http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume4/00000377.pdf
            http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume1/00000178.pdf
            http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume1/00000179.pdf
            http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume1/00000180.pdf
            http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume1/00000181.pdf

            Badar

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              Now here comes the counter punch to Hadathy punch to the message of Rubb. This Sura is one of several biggest Hadathy punchs, as nobody can tell meanings without history and Hadath. Next word in order is this word in some Quranic text one would find with two Jezms. First Jezm on Lam of Al followed by another one on Yaa of Feel. However, in some texts one finds Feel without the second Jezm on Yaa. I agree with the text where it is written with second Jezm on Yaa. However, this is a mater of discussion by itself, hence not appropriate at this time and place. When purpose is to show, how I am deriving my meanings? To continue please read the link here from Lane very carefully. The word implying an elephant is an Arabizised word of Persian, spelled as Peel. However, meaning of Arabic word feel is at the start in following link, please read with care.

              To all inquirers, please tell me doesn't it become apparent to you that Rubb is keping up his promises. 1. He will preserve his message. Does it not appear preserved to you. 2. It is easy to understand. The answer to this is, if an illiterate (meaning illiterate with language of Quran) like myself, can understand it; than everyone is capable of understanding it, provided one wants to and strive for it.

              http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume6/00000258.pdf

              Badar

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                Dear brother Prince and All, would you like me to continue further this word by word analysis? Or we are okay now.

                Badar

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                  Prince
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                  Please continue.

                  Would be interesting if those who are fluent in arabic can put their input into this topic.

                  PEACE

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                    Sure brother as time permits. I shall continue this word by word explanation. I fully second your request for input and critique. But please no personal attacks or oppressive responses. Only discuss subject on hand on its merits. The subject of discussion being, "Understanding of the message on linguistic basis"

                    Badar

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                      Dear brother Prince, I am going to jump ahead. This due brother Herbman asking a question.

                      Dear Herbman. I will tell you first how I arrived the understanding in my translation of Al-Fil. Subsequently I will share with you that due increasing understanding of language everyday. Why now I understand it to be incorrect.

                      The word initially I translated as combination of two. and . Where is of comparison and for root I used meaning as ?you be quick and swift in incline and decline?. Please see links below.

                      http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume8/00000252.pdf

                      http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume5/00000348.pdf

                      However, since I worked on AL-Asr. I understand above to be incorrect. This is based on presence of a Jezm on Sad. Hence I understand that word is a combination of three not two. First is as above, root followed by used as personal pronoun instead of as I described in first verse. More later.

                      Badar

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