Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Users
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Free Minds Forum Icon
  1. Home
  2. General Issues / Questions
  3. General Issues / Questions
  4. HIJAB, NIGAB or NOTHING - Youtube.

HIJAB, NIGAB or NOTHING - Youtube.

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved General Issues / Questions
131 Posts 24 Posters 6.1k Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • H Offline
    H Offline
    Haneen
    wrote on last edited by
    #11

    Privat parts or spare parts are not made on head laugh

    I have heard one educated sunni sayng if you dont cover your head its like you are naked! )

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • R Offline
      R Offline
      Rev_John
      wrote on last edited by
      #12

      I have heard one educated sunni sayng if you dont cover your head its like you are naked! )

      So you can be naked except your head?

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • E Offline
        E Offline
        No longer a Sunna-rejecter
        wrote on last edited by
        #13

        2431 Tell the acknowledging women to lower their gaze and guard their private parts, and that they should not show off their attraction except what is apparent of it, and let them cast their clothes over their cleavage.

        The verse is telling us that women are actually allowed to show off some of their attraction. Notice the underlined and especially the bold. "Except what is apparent OF IT" clearly shows this and rfutes all claims that women have to be covered from head to toe.

        I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • M Offline
          M Offline
          muslimahandproud
          wrote on last edited by
          #14

          I remember watching this a while ago, and thinking kind of how stuck-up (kind of like holier-than-thou) the hijabi lady was acting, kind of like she was better... I didn't get that same vibe from the niqabi or lady with no hijab.
          Strange. Anyone else get the same impression?
          And then when the hijabi lady was saying that it does say you have to cover your hair in the Qur'an the non-hijabi was kind of knocked off-guard...
          I just don't understand how so many people insist that it says "cover your hair" in the Qur'an.
          I can understand how someone can say it's implied, if you want to go the route of saying that khimaar means it needs to be on your head.... but to say it says specifically to "cover your hair" is outright wrong.

          People think that it says cover your hair in the Qur'an because many English translations say this. The first Qur'an I bought used the word head cover... it's mainly so that it links with the hadiths.

          I really felt for the non-hijabi in this video. The interviewer wasn't very fair and basically told her she wasn't practising her faith properly because of the translation she read out. I tried to leave a comment on YouTube saying the non-hijabi had a fair point but people pressed the "thumbs down" button so you can no longer read my comment. >(

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • R Offline
            R Offline
            Rev_John
            wrote on last edited by
            #15

            2431 Tell the acknowledging women to lower their gaze and guard their private parts, and that they should not show off their attraction except what is apparent of it, and let them cast their clothes over their cleavage.

            The verse is telling us that women are actually allowed to show off some of their attraction. Notice the underlined and especially the bold. "Except what is apparent OF IT" clearly shows this and rfutes all claims that women have to be covered from head to toe.

            So in other words, women should just cover their private parts and cleavage. Which I'm sure most women do anyway

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • E Offline
              E Offline
              No longer a Sunna-rejecter
              wrote on last edited by
              #16

              So in other words, women should just cover their private parts and cleavage. Which I'm sure most women do anyway

              And they should not show off their attraction except what is apparent of it.

              I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • R Offline
                R Offline
                Rev_John
                wrote on last edited by
                #17

                And they should not show off their attraction except what is apparent of it.

                But surely it is all apparent

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • S Offline
                  S Offline
                  srotu
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #18

                  I thought they were, on the whole pretty respectful of one another though quick to take personal offense. I didn't like that Sonia's defense is basically that the Muslim world need to look more friendly, appearance-wise, to the Western world.

                  The woman wearing the hijab says that men too have their own compulsory dresscode and can't wear whatever they want but technically this is untrue because the way the Sunni ruling is, men CAN practically wear whatever they want unless they have an all-consuming urge to constantly walk around in Speedos. How can one compare head-to-toe covering with covering just from the navel to the knees?

                  Also, did anyone catch the bit where the reporter says "I'm sure you're anxious about breaking your fast" and connected that to a bit in the clip where Sonia drinks from a cup? That made me LOL.

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • S Offline
                    S Offline
                    SarahY
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #19

                    I thought they were, on the whole pretty respectful of one another though quick to take personal offense. I didn't like that Sonia's defense is basically that the Muslim world need to look more friendly, appearance-wise, to the Western world.

                    I agree, assimilation isn't the right word, people's cultures should be respected even if they live in a western place. A person in a headscarf or niqab doesn't automatically make them unfriendly. People approach me i can't look too evil or unfriendly. It was like she was implicating anyone who covers isn't able to do anything in the world. anything useful with other people. inevitably all people will have prejudices be it in hijab, niqab or not that's inescapable..

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • A Offline
                      A Offline
                      Alen
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #20

                      Peace,
                      Respectfully.

                      I can see from the video that the woman in the middle was being dressed as a Muslim.
                      I also think you should read Genesis to see who use to cover herself with the niqab and burqa.

                      Peace.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • M Offline
                        M Offline
                        Meteora
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #21

                        Peace,
                        Respectfully.

                        I can see from the video that the woman in the middle was being dressed as a Muslim.
                        I also think you should read Genesis to see who use to cover herself with the niqab and burqa.

                        Peace.

                        lol, correct.

                        The nun and the ninja were the nun and the ninja. The nun was following Christian practices plagiarized in the hadith and the ninja was following extra-extreme hadith teachings. Whether or not they felt comfortable with it isn't the issue but the fact the two misguided women said "cover your hair" was in the Quran shows they're not only ignorant but following idols i.e. their ignorant and/or sexist imams. Whether this was their intention or not, God almighty knows.

                        I don't blame them. I'm sure they're just confused and trying to please God in the way they think will, and actually, I think what they're doing does please God because it's not like God gave the command to NOT cover your hair or face and it's obvious they're doing it just for the God and not themselves (don't think they'd wear it if they were nonbelievers). However saying to cover these is from the god can be

                        1. A confusion

                        2. An intentional lie

                        I think 98% of sunni's say it as a confusion (trying to say the truth but failing) while the other 2 are saying it as a lie (they are damned) those being the fags that made the hadith.

                        And there's also no reason why God would say lower the gaze if you're not even showing your hair or your face. Lower the gaze is a command, not throw a garbage bag over yourself.

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • A Offline
                          A Offline
                          Alen
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #22

                          And there's also no reason why God would say lower the gaze if you're not even showing your hair or your face. Lower the gaze is a command, not throw a garbage bag over yourself.

                          Peace,
                          Respectfully.

                          Well, those who dress themselves in a way, that only the face is visible, can look nice and friendly, right?
                          I mean, to cover your hair is one thing, the cover your whole body is another.
                          And we always have to first find some solid proof from The Quran.

                          Peace.

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • A Offline
                            A Offline
                            afridi220
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #23

                            lol, correct.

                            The nun and the ninja were the nun and the ninja. The nun was following Christian practices plagiarized in the hadith and the ninja was following extra-extreme hadith teachings. Whether or not they felt comfortable with it isn't the issue but the fact the two misguided women said "cover your hair" was in the Quran shows they're not only ignorant but following idols i.e. their ignorant and/or sexist imams. Whether this was their intention or not, God almighty knows.

                            I don't blame them. I'm sure they're just confused and trying to please God in the way they think will, and actually, I think what they're doing does please God because it's not like God gave the command to NOT cover your hair or face and it's obvious they're doing it just for the God and not themselves (don't think they'd wear it if they were nonbelievers). However saying to cover these is from the god can be

                            1. A confusion

                            2. An intentional lie

                            I think 98% of sunni's say it as a confusion (trying to say the truth but failing) while the other 2 are saying it as a lie (they are damned) those being the fags that made the hadith.

                            And there's also no reason why God would say lower the gaze if you're not even showing your hair or your face. Lower the gaze is a command, not throw a garbage bag over yourself.

                            1. A confusion

                            2. An intentional lie

                            No they are not confused or fused nor they lie but they are following what they are taught with their good intention.

                            I?m will not blame them but i blame their senseless clergy men the true messengers of >D the temporary God on earth

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • U Offline
                              U Offline
                              UmAlawi
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #24

                              There isn't that story in the Qur'an, but yeah obviously those parts arouse sexual desire especially for the guys. D
                              But you had said that since God made the hair, why cover it ... and since God made everything why cover it. D I was being goofy. laugh

                              Peace Aynur and Rev John

                              I found this - it's referring to Adam and Eve, I believe.

                              (Asad)
                              727 O children of ADAM! Do not allow Satan to seduce you in the same way as he caused your ancestors to be driven out of the garden he deprived them of their garment in order to make them aware of their nakedness. Verily, he and his tribe are lying in wait for you where you cannot perceive them! Verily, We have placed satanic forces near unto those who do not believe;

                              Peace )

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • F Offline
                                F Offline
                                farida
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #25

                                So in other words, women should just cover their private parts and cleavage. Which I'm sure most women do anyway

                                Not in your home Rev, see this http//harrietharman.blogspot.com/2008/05/harriet-harman-looking-good.html

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • E Offline
                                  E Offline
                                  No longer a Sunna-rejecter
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #26

                                  But surely it is all apparent

                                  I'm not sure if you got the point and what it implies.

                                  I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • R Offline
                                    R Offline
                                    Rev_John
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #27

                                    Not in your home Rev, see this http//harrietharman.blogspot.com/2008/05/harriet-harman-looking-good.html

                                    rotfl

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • M Offline
                                      M Offline
                                      Meteora
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #28
                                      1. A confusion

                                      2. An intentional lie

                                      No they are not confused or fused nor they lie but they are following what they are taught with their good intention.

                                      I?m will not blame them but i blame their senseless clergy men the true messengers of >D the temporary God on earth

                                      I said a confusion, not the same thing as being confused. They're confusing obeying the messenger and obeying idiots.

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • A Offline
                                        A Offline
                                        afridi220
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #29

                                        I said a confusion, not the same thing as being confused. They're confusing obeying the messenger and obeying idiots.

                                        Ahh obeying messenger ok but obeying idiots nope

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • F Offline
                                          F Offline
                                          farida
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #30

                                          Ahh obeying messenger ok but obeying idiots nope

                                          Hey I thought you did not belong to my boat

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Users