Women: Taraweeh at the masjid or home
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The Christian religion is not pagan. Even traditional Christians (with whom I disagree) state that they believe in the one God and there is only the one God (I agree). They just say that God appears in three different ways (I disagree with this also). It does not say anything in the bible about the "God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit" this is just a term to describe how they think of the One God. There are many people, like me, that believe in the message God gave through Jesus, this makes us Christian. We do not believe that Jesus was the son of God anymore than we are all children of God. We do not believe that Jesus was "God on Earth" and nor do most Christians, there is only a small section of Christians that believe that.
This is completely false. The largest collective bodies of Christians are Catholic and Orthodox Christians, and BOTH of them view Jesus as an incarnation of God Himself. Both of them view God as "three people, united but separate". Both of them believe that Jesus died for the sins of humanity, and ALL Christians I know (and have ever heard of) recite their prayers "in Jesus' name", viewing him as the "only begotten son" of God... I don't know where you're getting your information from, but it's false. According to the prime doctrines of Christianity, "The Christian faith is essentially faith in Jesus as the Christ (or Messiah), the Son of God, the Savior, the manifestation of God to humankind (Immanuel), and God (Yahweh or the "Lord" himself." Disbelief in ALL of these things means that the person rejecting them is NOT a Christian... And by the way, according to the Hebrew Bible, Jesus couldn't have fit ANY of these descriptions, and ALL of these beliefs concerning Jesus are evidence of falsehood and idol worship. Other essential beliefs of all Christians, based on the Apostles' Creed, are (1) belief in God the Father, Jesus Christ as the Son of God and the Holy Spirit, (2) the death, descent into hell, resurrection, and ascension of Christ, (3) the holiness of the Church and the communion of saints, and (4) Christ's second coming, the Day of Judgement and salvation of the faithful. Again, if you don't believe in these things, based on the doctrines of Christianity, then you're NOT a Christian.
You seem to reject nearly all of the fundamental Christian concepts. So, what makes you any more "Christian" than a Buddhist?!
There is a sect of Muslims that have elevated Muhammad to "God-like" so what is the difference there? Are you saying that Islam is pagan?
There is NO Islaamic sect that puts divinity on Muhammad, and there is NO sect in Islaam that claims that Muhammad died for the sins of anyone. There's NO Islaamic sect that alleges that Muhammad was raised from the dead or that he was born of a virgin woman... So, how can you compare this with modern Christian beliefs? You're asking what the "difference" is? There's PLENTY of difference. Like I said, even Sunni and Wahhabi Moslems attest to Allah's complete oneness, and they adamantly declare that He has no partners in His sovereignty. This automatically places them far ahead of Christianity, since Christians LITERALLY can't worship God without worshipping Jesus!
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There is NO Islaamic sect that puts divinity on Muhammad, and there is NO sect in Islaam that claims that Muhammad died for the sins of anyone. There's NO Islaamic sect that alleges that Muhammad was raised from the dead or that he was born of a virgin woman... So, how can you compare this with modern Christian beliefs? You're asking what the "difference" is? There's PLENTY of difference. Like I said, even Sunni and Wahhabi Moslems attest to Allah's complete oneness, and they adamantly declare that He has no partners in His sovereignty. This automatically places them far ahead of Christianity, since Christians LITERALLY can't worship God without worshipping Jesus!
But what about those that believe Prophet Muhammad (saw) will intercede on the behalf of Muslims? (I'm not talking about just pleading for believers, but doing more than that). Would that be elevating the Prophet higher than he should be elevated??
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But what about those that believe Prophet Muhammad (saw) will intercede on the behalf of Muslims? (I'm not talking about just pleading for believers, but doing more than that). Would that be elevating the Prophet higher than he should be elevated??
Peace,
Respectfully.I think that all sunnis believe that, they all say that messenger/prophet Muhammad will do what Christians think messenger/prophet Jesus is doing or has been doing. When you approach a sunni and tell him/her that thinking of messenger/prophet Muhammad as an interrcessor is the same thing what Christians doing with mesenger/prophet Jesus, they will say, no, you don't understand , messenger/prophet Muhammad is special because he is last.
One guy even told me that black cube is special even after i told him that messenger/prophet Ibraheem destroyed rocks. They see black cube as a special stone. It's happening. It's started.
Game Over.
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But what about those that believe Prophet Muhammad (saw) will intercede on the behalf of Muslims? (I'm not talking about just pleading for believers, but doing more than that). Would that be elevating the Prophet higher than he should be elevated??
It's true that many Sunnis elevate Muhammad higher than they should, and most of them have a false hope of his intercession. However, no Islaamic sect specifically believes that their salvation rests with Muhammad. This is what Christianity has promoted, the idea that without Jesus, all humanity is doomed to suffer eternal torment and damnation. Muslims, like Jews, believe that all salvation is ultimately determined by Allah, while Christians reject this belief, saying that their salvation is completely dependent on Jesus' death (sacrifice), resurrection, and intercession... Yes, the Muslims who believe in the idea of Muhammad's intercession are in error, but they STILL can't be compared to Christians, who have completely strayed from the path...
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It's true that many Sunnis elevate Muhammad higher than they should, and most of them have a false hope of his intercession. However, no Islaamic sect specifically believes that their salvation rests with Muhammad. This is what Christianity has promoted, the idea that without Jesus, all humanity is doomed to suffer eternal torment and damnation. Muslims, like Jews, believe that all salvation is ultimately determined by Allah, while Christians reject this belief, saying that their salvation is completely dependent on Jesus' death (sacrifice), resurrection, and intercession... Yes, the Muslims who believe in the idea of Muhammad's intercession are in error, but they STILL can't be compared to Christians, who have completely strayed from the path...
Oh, I see. So now it is the Christians fault that some Muslims are wrong! You know, I have been working for years to try to bring Christians closer to Islam. It is attitudes like yours that have been preventing this. I thought I had found like-minds here. Obviously not. I think I will just take my leave from this site.
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Somebody is talkin bad about sunnis, but dont like when people just remind him about traditional christian beliefs.
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Somebody is talkin bad about sunnis, but dont like when people just remind him about traditional christian beliefs.
I do not mind people ctitisising traditional Christians, I do it myself. But please do not lump all Christians the same. We are not. Just the same as Muslims are not all the same.
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There is NO Islaamic sect that puts divinity on Muhammad, and there is NO sect in Islaam that claims that Muhammad died for the sins of anyone. There's NO Islaamic sect that alleges that Muhammad was raised from the dead or that he was born of a virgin woman... So, how can you compare this with modern Christian beliefs? You're asking what the "difference" is? There's PLENTY of difference. Like I said, even Sunni and Wahhabi Moslems attest to Allah's complete oneness, and they adamantly declare that He has no partners in His sovereignty. This automatically places them far ahead of Christianity, since Christians LITERALLY can't worship God without worshipping Jesus!
From Wiki
Reincarnation exists in the Druze branch of Ismailism. The Druze believe that members of their community can only be reincarnated within the community. It is also known that Druze believe in five cosmic principles, represented by the five colored Druze star intelligence/reason (green), soul (red), word (yellow), precedent (blue), and immanence (white).
These virtues take the shape of five different spirits which, until recently, have been continuously reincarnated on Earth as prophets and philosophers including Adam, the ancient Greek mathematician and astronomer Pythagoras, and the ancient Pharaoh of Egypt Akhenaten, and many others. The Druze believe that, in every time period, these five principles were personified in five different people who came down together to Earth to teach humans the true path to God and nirvana, but that with them came five other individuals who would lead people away from the right path into "darkness".In Nizari Ismailism, the Imm is seen through the Qur'anic phrase, ?The Face of God.? The Imm is truth and reality itself, and hence he is their path of salvation to God.
Sevener Isml doctrine holds that divine revelation had been given in six periods (daur) entrusted to six prophets, who they also call Natiq (Speaker), who were commissioned to preach a religion of law to their respective communities.
Please also read http//www.mostmerciful.com/dua-one.htm
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Salaam everyone...
I was just wondering hmm if we always have to go off topic in each and every thread?? Is this some kind of sickness offtopic
Why dont we get back to the topic and just past some quranic verses right here which refute this macho mullahs straight away??
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Salaam everyone...
I was just wondering hmm if we always have to go off topic in each and every thread?? Is this some kind of sickness offtopic
Why dont we get back to the topic and just past some quranic verses right here which refute this macho mullahs straight away??
I was just thinking that too.
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I went to the mosque today for Jummah and got kicked out. Even though I went to the Women's Prayer room! The women's prayer room had some men praying in there, which I found odd, but thought it must be overspill, so I went to the back to pray and afterwards a man came up to me and said women are not allowed to pray in the same room as men as this is HARAM. I told him that this is not in the Qur'an and he then went on to tell me how it must be HARAM because he has been studing Islam for 3 years...
(Though he did kindly point me in the direction of the kitchen and said it would be ok if I prayed there, as long as the men could not see me.)
So I said, I believe Allah S.w.t wants us to pray in congregation, not separate, but he said it is only women that can pray with other women. So I said, well I am in the women's side, it's not me who is in the wrong place.
The cheek of it, I was fuming. May Allah give me patience and strength, InshAllah.
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So to accommodate for men they take womens place in the mosque...
i know a mosque here that does that except they leave a portion for women, and they cover it with curtains So you can't see.
Another mosque near me, they have women praying behind men.
Another mosque has a women's section no men go to, and a TV so women can see the sheikh ..
thats sad, though good on you for sticking up for yourself. How pathetic of him saying "i must know" or it must be haram simply because he has been studying for 3 yrs..
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I went to the mosque today for Jummah and got kicked out. Even though I went to the Women's Prayer room! The women's prayer room had some men praying in there, which I found odd, but thought it must be overspill, so I went to the back to pray and afterwards a man came up to me and said women are not allowed to pray in the same room as men as this is HARAM. I told him that this is not in the Qur'an and he then went on to tell me how it must be HARAM because he has been studing Islam for 3 years...
(Though he did kindly point me in the direction of the kitchen and said it would be ok if I prayed there, as long as the men could not see me.)
So I said, I believe Allah S.w.t wants us to pray in congregation, not separate, but he said it is only women that can pray with other women. So I said, well I am in the women's side, it's not me who is in the wrong place.
The cheek of it, I was fuming. May Allah give me patience and strength, InshAllah.
So if there were more women, would they allow them to take over the men's section?
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Peace,
Respectfully.This is the most insulting thing ever! I am full of rage, this video has made me so freakin' angry, i could bust the guy on the floor and kick him like Ray Liotta protecting his girlfriend in Goodfellas.
Women must and will be respected and treated as equals!
Women are beautiful, how dares he say that a woman should stay at home an dpray alone and furthermore, how dares he say that she should obey her husband!? Woman should first and foremost obey The Exalted God The Most Wise, The Most High, Who gave her life, health, wisdom, patience, Who guided her and have her so many blessings.The Exalted God has created a woman different then a man - man will never, never understand what's it like to give birth to a child, i will never feel the pain tha a woman goes when delivering a child. My mother broke most her teeth during the delivery of me and later in life her dentist told her all her teeth are now broken and must come out, because they're broken vertically and they will exit with more pain. So all in all, my mother had to not only work for 30 years at the company which ordered her to take off her hijab and where she worked 8 and sometimes 16 hours a day, 5, 6 and even 7 days of the week and got fired because the comapny was sold to some rich investor but she lost all her teeth, she lives in a country that treats her as a second-class citizen, becuase she is an immigrant (from Bosnia) and on top of all that, she had to go through the throat surgery because of the dust that piled up after three decades of work in a place where cardboards are being cut 24 hours a day.
Women must be respected and sunnis have no respect for women, our sisters, our mothers, our daughters, our nieces and so on. Women in Mid-East - some, not all, don't know how to read and write and even in places in Africa. That is a shame for humans!
Has a woman started a war?
No.
Do women get same salaries for same work as men?
yeah
How many babies do sunni-women push out?
Apparently not enough!I love my fioncee and i want to marry her because i asked for such a woman and becaus ei love her, I LOVE HER, she is the most beautiful woman on the planet. Forget miss Venezuela, miss France, miss Italy or miss Spain.
May The Exalted God The Most Merciful help us all and especially women and especially those women that are oppressed - in Afghanistan, Las Vegas, communism, Africa and so on. God bless you all.
Fear not, sisters, God hears ALL. Ask Him.Peace.
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I went to the mosque today for Jummah and got kicked out. Even though I went to the Women's Prayer room! The women's prayer room had some men praying in there, which I found odd, but thought it must be overspill, so I went to the back to pray and afterwards a man came up to me and said women are not allowed to pray in the same room as men as this is HARAM. I told him that this is not in the Qur'an and he then went on to tell me how it must be HARAM because he has been studing Islam for 3 years...
(Though he did kindly point me in the direction of the kitchen and said it would be ok if I prayed there, as long as the men could not see me.)
So I said, I believe Allah S.w.t wants us to pray in congregation, not separate, but he said it is only women that can pray with other women. So I said, well I am in the women's side, it's not me who is in the wrong place.
The cheek of it, I was fuming. May Allah give me patience and strength, InshAllah.
That is sad and insulting. (