Miracles
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half of it landing behind a mountain and the other half landing in someone's backyard?!?
what, they mean like... actual HALF of the moon? how big do they think it is? hehe
All Muslims believe in that
oh, well, then it must be true. what a strong argument hehehe
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But the moon splitting isn't theoretically possible. I believe that science and religion are in harmony. peace
Exactly, you beat me to it... Science and religion should be compatible and harmonized. It's completely ridiculous and unrealistic to assume that the actual moon (which is HUGE, I might add) split in half and fell to the earth, one half of it landing behind a mountain and the other half of it landing in someone's backyard. That story doesn't make any sense, and it's incompatible with science and reality...
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Exactly, you beat me to it... Science and religion should be compatible and harmonized. It's completely ridiculous and unrealistic to assume that the actual moon (which is HUGE, I might add) split in half and fell to the earth, one half of it landing behind a mountain and the other half of it landing in someone's backyard. That story doesn't make any sense, and it's incompatible with science and reality...
handshake One of my class mates in school told me that the world was flat. I told him "what were you studying from your science text books all these years". And he tells me "there is a hadhith that says this" and I said "That is BS"
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Exactly, you beat me to it... Science and religion should be compatible and harmonized. It's completely ridiculous and unrealistic to assume that the actual moon (which is HUGE, I might add) split in half and fell to the earth, one half of it landing behind a mountain and the other half of it landing in someone's backyard. That story doesn't make any sense, and it's incompatible with science and reality...
salaam brother
some miracles might seem incompatible with our reality that doesn't mean they never happened or untrue.
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handshake One of my class mates in school told me that the world was flat. I told him "what were you studying from your science text books all these years". And he tells me "there is a hadhith that says this" and I said "That is BS"
Wait, he said the earth is FLAT?! o
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Wasalaam,
some miracles might seem incompatible with our reality that doesn't mean they never happened or untrue.
But where is the proof that they ARE true or that they actually DID happen? How can you believe in something specifically based on hearsay? Isn't that a case of relying on blind faith and belief, which the Qur'aan condemns?
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Wait, he said the earth is FLAT?! o
yes he said it. I guess he was high. laugh
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Wasalaam,
But where is the proof that they ARE true or that they actually DID happen? How can you believe in something specifically based on hearsay? Isn't that a case of relying on blind faith and belief, which the Qur'aan condemns?
salaam brother
Wahy is the biggest of all miracles, would you please explain which science approves the communication between God and man?
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Peace
I know that God is capable of doing anything, but I believe God will not break natures rules to perform miracles just so we may believe, just won't happen. This brings us onto what miracles does the Quran talk about if any? Anyone know?
Peace
Hope
So We revealed to Musa, "Strike the sea with your staff." And it split in two, each part like a towering cliff. And We brought the others right up to it. We rescued Musa and all those who were with him. Then We drowned the rest. There is certainly a Sign in that yet most of them are not believers. Truly your Lord is the Almighty, the Most Merciful. (Qur'an, 2663-6 police
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So We revealed to Musa, "Strike the sea with your staff." And it split in two, each part like a towering cliff. And We brought the others right up to it. We rescued Musa and all those who were with him. Then We drowned the rest. There is certainly a Sign in that yet most of them are not believers. Truly your Lord is the Almighty, the Most Merciful. (Qur'an, 2663-6 police
Yes a very famous miracle. Reason for the miracle to rescue the people and kill the wicked, or thats it in a nut shell. Now tell me the reason for the split of moon?
Peace
Hope
PS. Jesus performed miracles, making the blind see, curing illness, all had a good reason and mentioned in the great reading. Why is the spliting of moon not mentioned?
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Yes a very famous miracle. Reason for the miracle to rescue the people and kill the wicked, or thats it in a nut shell. Now tell me the reason for the split of moon?
Peace
Hope
PS. Jesus performed miracles, making the blind see, curing illness, all had a good reason and mentioned in the great reading. Why is the spliting of moon not mentioned?
I never said Mohammad split the moon ask RH.
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YUSUFALI The Hour (of Judgment) is nigh, and the moon is cleft asunder.
PICKTHAL The hour drew nigh and the moon was rent in twain.
SHAKIR The hour drew nigh and the moon did rend asunder.054.002
YUSUFALI But if they see a Sign, they turn away, and say, "This is (but) transient magic."
PICKTHAL And if they behold a portent they turn away and say Prolonged illusion.
SHAKIR And if they see a miracle they turn aside and say Transient magic.054.003
YUSUFALI They reject (the warning) and follow their (own) lusts but every matter has its appointed time.
PICKTHAL They denied (the Truth) and followed their own lusts. Yet everything will come to a decision
SHAKIR And they call (it) a lie, and follow their low desires; and every affair has its appointed term. -
Peace
Whenever Allah decides to do something ,he say "Kun" and it happensPlease note the use of "imperfect tense" which means "present /future " tense.
RegardsAnd this s may be a key formula to split atoms because he is the one who created everything then he must know how to do that without breaking his own law, I don?t know what all this fuss is about.
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I never said Mohammad split the moon ask RH.
054.001
YUSUFALI The Hour (of Judgment) is nigh, and the moon is cleft asunder.
PICKTHAL The hour drew nigh and the moon was rent in twain.
SHAKIR The hour drew nigh and the moon did rend asunder.054.002
YUSUFALI But if they see a Sign, they turn away, and say, "This is (but) transient magic."
PICKTHAL And if they behold a portent they turn away and say Prolonged illusion.
SHAKIR And if they see a miracle they turn aside and say Transient magic.054.003
YUSUFALI They reject (the warning) and follow their (own) lusts but every matter has its appointed time.
PICKTHAL They denied (the Truth) and followed their own lusts. Yet everything will come to a decision
SHAKIR And they call (it) a lie, and follow their low desires; and every affair has its appointed term.Peace Afridi
541 The Hour draws near, and the moon is breached.
Everyone has a term and that term will come.
542 And if they see a sign, they turn away and say ?Continuous
magic!?How many signs have people rejected? Loads I would imagine.
543 And they disbelieved, and followed their desires, and every old
tradition.Classic example of hear-say making its way into Gods message.
544 While the news had come to them in which there was sufficient
warning.Messengers were sent to many to warn.
545 A perfect wisdom; but the warnings are of no benefit.
How true. Was the warning signs of last day or the system in which God wants us to live in with clear examples of what will happen to those who do not follow? I think the later.
546 So turn away from them; the Day will come when the caller will
announce a terrible disaster.The disaster will be announce but no one knows when and only the wicked will find it hard on that day.
547 With their eyes humiliated, they come out of the graves like
scattered locusts.548 Hastening towards the caller, the rejecters will say ?This is a
difficult Day.?Thats my summary, I could be wrong, I am no scolar or able to read arabic, but I believe in God and the last day, and I believe the good people will have nothing to fear on the last day. Also miracles do not strengthen my belief as everything around us is a miracle, just step back and look around you then you will know there is a God. Praise to God, Lord of the worlds..
Peace
Hope
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my argument would be hey, if they got to see a (supernatural) miracle (that breaks laws of nature), then i wanna see one too...
i mean why God let them see it only, who are they, why they so special, why not us, today, huh, i'd like to see a man come out of fire (and i don't mean a fireman)... (no need to answer these questions, i'm just sayin, ya know) )