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    quickduck
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    Peace TheJoker,

    I read it as descended/began in a night in the month of Ramadan (first stage); the rest like this surah came later obviously...

    Peace all,

    You still didn't get it. OK ? Here is it in slow mo..

    1- there are TWO forms of descending/revealing the quran, i mean in the quran ANZALA, and NAZZALA. Unfortunately, all the translations do't make any difference between the TWO, and treat them as "descending/descendu/bajado...etc.."

    2- this is for arabic speakers (you, bilal)

    NAZZALA....YUNAZZILO...TANZEELAN

    ANZALA...YUNZILO....INZAALAN

    Can you please tell me the difference between both ?

    Witing for the answer

    salam

    By the way, if you will call your self a Cheerleader Captain, please you need to change your Gender Symbol.

    the cheerleader captain is not an idea of mine, it's guest's and nun's ;D

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      farida
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      Dear Belal .
      No matter how much powerful arguement you bring it is going to be useless because you can debate with anyone who has some knowledge but that one who is a heap of ignorance.

      Regards

      Or hell bent on distorting the truth, they are on pay roll after all they make their living out of it. yes
      As for us this is what counts; Today, I have completed your religion, perfected My blessing upon you, and I have decreed Submission as the religion for you.
      God bless all those who strive against wrong doers and uphold the system established by the last prophet Mohammad pbuh.
      Salaam and happy Ramadan sun
      farida

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        quickduck
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        Peace all,

        You still didn't get it. OK ? Here is it in slow mo..

        1- there are TWO forms of descending/revealing the quran, i mean in the quran ANZALA, and NAZZALA. Unfortunately, all the translations do't make any difference between the TWO, and treat them as "descending/descendu/bajado...etc.."

        2- this is for arabic speakers (you, bilal)

        NAZZALA....YUNAZZILO...TANZEELAN

        ANZALA.......YUNZILO.......INZAALAN

        Can you please tell me the difference between both ?

        Waiting for the answer

        salam

        the cheerleader captain is not an idea of mine, it's guest's and nun's ;D

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          farida
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          the cheerleader captain is not an idea of mine, it's guest's and nun's

          No this was Ayman's sexist title for me. You want to bet on it? In that case I will give you the reply number? jedi

          Salaaaam

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            Q_student
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            Or hell bent on distorting the truth, they are on pay roll after all they make their living out of it. yes

            farida

            rotfl rotfl

            Regards

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              siki
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              "Maadood" is a common word which we use in urdu every day, and there is absolutely no doubt about it that it means , "A very limited count"

              Isn't it Farida?

              Moreover , Rasulhamza was right in pointing out ,when you were trying to confuse ashraa, and "Shahar Ramadhan"

              Ashraa, means arabic number 10. and you can call 1 to 10th day of a month as ashraa ae awaal, (first 10 days),11th to 20th as ashraa ul sani, (2nd ten day period) and 21st to 30th as akhari ashraa, ( last ten days), It has got nothing to do with Shahar, or shahar Ramadhan.

              I am amazed , that with such ignorance , you are so arrogant?
              knowing very well what "Maadood "means, you have chosen to keep quite like a hypocrite?
              When some one addresses you with respect as "A SISTER" you bark at him . How do you want to be addressed...?

              Let me assure you "Ramadhan as a month" is "deep" fried with you being its lawyer, and God save your clients in the real world.

              siki

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                Samia
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                Ayman, as we have told you before, Madoodat Means Counted...It Does Not Mean 3-10 nor 30 nor 100...it does not mean few, as well...Simply, COUNTED.

                Peace

                Although "Babylon" is not a dictioary to search for classical meanings, but the result search for " " is "A few days", because it's still the used meaning. Try it for yourself on tis link

                http//translation.babylon.com/Arabic/to-English/

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                  Although "Babylon" is not a dictioary to search for classical meanings, but the result search for " " is "A few days", because it's still the used meaning. Try it for yourself on tis link

                  http//translation.babylon.com/Arabic/to-English/

                  30 days are few as compared to 365! thanks

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                    noble
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                    Peace
                    Sorry to barge in but a few in proper english means a small number less than 10, so some dudes in this thread need to revise their english
                    as well as their arabic...
                    now in improper english, if you want to extend a few you can say "quite a few", and that will stretch it no to more than 13/14...

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                      Samia
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                      30 days are few as compared to 365! thanks

                      It says "a few" not "few". Now search in an English Arabic dictionary

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                        Peace Ayman,

                        Interestingly, the full-moon around the summer solstice is special because it follows a lower path across the sky compared to the rest of the year's full moons and for some reason our brains are wired to perceive such full-moons as larger than normal. In fact, not only will the full-moon seem bigger than normal, but the low-hanging full moon takes on an orange hue as a result of scattered moonlight in Earth's dusty atmosphere.

                        First you say the summer solstice full moon follows the lower path across the sky. This is your so called Ramadan theory.

                        The answer is that the TWO full-moons that took the LOWEST path are the full-moons BEFORE and AFTER the summer solstice. This fact is so indisputable that I don't even need to check the data through the link about. However, since you are doubting this then post the data and show me wrong.

                        Then you say the TWO full moons that took the lowest path are BEFORE and AFTER the summer solstice. You just contradicted yourself. Instead of admitting the mistake you took pride in modifying your lousy theory. This is crazy, unrighteous, and hypocritical.

                        Now as for ?This fact is so indisputable that I don't even need to check the data through the link about.? I will give you a challenge to determine how certain you are about the stated position. Here is the challenge DO YOU AGREE TO WITHRAW YOUR ARTICLE AND APOLOGIZE TO US IF I PROVE YOU WRONG? Just give me the word and I will provide the evidence.

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                          noble
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                          You mean apologize not APOLIZES surely the latter does not make sense?

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                            farida
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                            "Maadood" is a common word which we use in urdu every day, and there is absolutely no doubt about it that it means , "A very limited count"
                            siki

                            Salaaam Siki,

                            As Rasulhamza pointed out 30 days are few as compared to 365! And that's a human counting not God. Just imagine how long is God's hmm
                            Say "Whoever is in misguidance, then the Almighty will lead them on." Until they see what they have been promised, either the retribution or the Hour. Then they will know who is in a worst place and weaker in power.

                            Isn't it Farida?

                            Isn't it Siknder?

                            Moreover , Rasulhamza was right in pointing out ,when you were trying to confuse ashraa, and "Shahar Ramadhan"

                            I hope you don?t pick and chose his replies or ! else you can always ask your sister Samia to come up with the interpretation to your choice.

                            Ashraa, means arabic number 10. and you can call 1 to 10th day of a month as ashraa ae awaal, (first 10 days),11th to 20th as ashraa ul sani, (2nd ten day period) and 21st to 30th as akhari ashraa, ( last ten days),

                            Thank you for finally addressing Ashraa in Urdu/Arabic.

                            It has got nothing to do with Shahar, or shahar Ramadhan

                            Nothing to do with Shahar, You see no obvious common root ???? brickwall
                            Whatttt . ).. that Ramadhan has nothing to with Ashraa, even if it is clearly in relation to the count of a lunar month/Shahar. yeah

                            I am amazed , that with such ignorance , you are so arrogant?

                            After all I am from the same country as yours '( but unlike you ;D I know the difference between being cocky and fascist or Nazi. yes

                            knowing very well what "Maadood "means, you have chosen to keep quite like a hypocrite?

                            Me keeping quite nope you must be joking laugh

                            When some one addresses you with respect as "A SISTER" you bark at him . How do you want to be addressed...?

                            Simply farida which means "unique" yes

                            Let me assure you "Ramadhan as a month" is "deep" fried with you being its lawyer, and God save your clients in the real world.

                            Only yesterday your friend Dr Ayman, impressed with my legal skills on this forum asked me to defend him against resourceful Saudi?s.
                            That says a lot for a female lawyer?s deep frying skills. jedi
                            peace

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                              guest
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                              You mean apologize not APOLIZES surely the latter does not make sense?

                              Peace, Thanks!

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                                noble
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                                Peace
                                Ego trips aside,
                                consider this

                                292 Do people think that they will be left alone because they say "We believe," and will not be tested.

                                293 And We indeed tested those who were before them. And All?h will certainly make (it) known (the truth
                                of) those who are true, and will certainly make (it) known (the falsehood of) those who are liars.

                                So I believe one of the issues with those who love calling themselves "Muslims" today, is that they are not only
                                being severely tested, but those of them who say we believe are not living up to the test and inquiring why they
                                are failing it, and so helping their unfortunate so-called "brethren and followers" and themselves from a very dangerous fate.

                                A proposed solution?

                                1. Accept the test.

                                2. Pass it (start by humbling the ego is a good start).

                                3. Get Allah's support and help.

                                No way around it.
                                The Scholars are brainwashed, they are calling to damnation, it is a mighty test indeed.

                                And if you want a little sign, here is one from yesterday
                                'Lebanon's Madoff' bankrupted after bouncing $200,000 cheque to Hizbollah
                                http//www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/lebanons-madoff-bankrupted-after-bouncing-200000-cheque-to-hizbollah-1783407.html

                                226 Verily, All?h is not ashamed to set forth a parable even of a mosquito or so much more when it is
                                bigger (or less when it is smaller) than it. And as for those who believe, they know that it is the Truth
                                from their Lord, but as for those who disbelieve, they say "What did All?h intend by this parable?"
                                By it He misleads many, and many He guides thereby. And He misleads thereby only those who are
                                Al-F?siq?n (the rebellious, disobedient to All?h).

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                                  Only those with pure hearts not locked by traditions and preconceptions can understand the great reading.

                                  Talk is cheap. Hypocrites are people who say one way and do another. You are seeing the Qur?an via a polluted dictionary. Your understanding is heavily biased by the dictionary meaning. Therefore, you are locked by your traditions and preconceptions. You just don?t want to admit it.

                                  If one starts from a pure heart, a clean sheet, without preconceptions then one cannot in a million years reach the sectarian calendar based on understanding the great reading.

                                  You satisfy none of these criteria. Your heart is impure and your sheet is full of satanic dictionary words. Therefore, your understanding of Qur?an is off-target and misleading.

                                  I admit that I am guilty of trying to find out the timing without preconceptions and based purely on earnestly seeking to understand the great reading.

                                  A pure lie.

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                                    noble
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                                    Peace
                                    Brain washing since Imam Shafie's famous fatwa to close the doors of Ijtihad, and decide that everything had to pass through Sunna and Hadith, that is about 1300 years.
                                    It will take a mighty push from Allah to shake the Sectarians to let go of all these time lengthy preconceptions.
                                    This is why Allah always says to His Prophets "khudhu alkitabba biquwata" "Enforce the Book with Force/Strength", in our case
                                    the Quran!
                                    Advice to Bro Ayman, you do not have to engage with slanderers by the way...

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                                      guest
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                                      Peace,

                                      It will take a mighty push from Allah to shake the Sectarians to let go of all these time lengthy preconceptions.

                                      The God does no such thing. There is no compulsion in religion. I guess we don't think alike. You should follow the Qur'an.

                                      Advice to Bro Ayman, you do not have to engage with slanderers by the way...

                                      Ayman is a slanderer, read Ayman reply to me (earlier post). I speak the truth and truth hurts many misguided people.

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                                        Q_student
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                                        Peace
                                        Brain washing since Imam Shafie's famous fatwa to close the doors of Ijtihad, and decide that everything had to pass through Sunna and Hadith, that is about 1300 years.


                                        Peace Brother
                                        Where is provision of Ijtihaad in the Quran ?
                                        Regards

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                                          noble
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                                          Peace,
                                          in the whole of the Quran, Allah invites Believers, Unbelievers, Humans, Jinns to think and ponder about His creation, consider the fate of past Nations, all the examples, parables, challenges, even daring to produce the like of the Quran, I cannot even begin to list all the invitations to improves one's lot, to travel on the earth, to meet other people, to be productive, to understand better Allah's creation and his word (..."and let there be among you a few who will stay behind and improve their knowledge in the Deen" instead of all going into battle, and that is while the Prophet was among them!!!)... and what have you,
                                          if this is not Ijtihad I wonder what is...
                                          Remove those blinkers and start seeing the Truth if you ever believed!!!
                                          I owe it to my Ancestor to stop this lie propagated in his name...
                                          Salaam to mann yatoob

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