More (gasp!) Women In Hell?
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nobody can actually say for certain where is more of whom. but then again, according to some, and i'm slowly starting to agree, everybody will eventually go to "heaven" so it really doesn't matter.
although for now, in this reality it may be more women in "hell" (state)... but that hell being experienced on this earth.
but that won't last, eventually it'll be more men, it varies, so we can't say for sure.
that's the problem with hadith, writers of them apparently didn't understand much about nature, world... how it all works. that's why it's filled with such absurdities that go against pretty much everything from quran to logic to nature... i mean i actually heard them say it says there a bull is holding the earth on his head... c-c-c...nevertheless ceratin ones that may be true in a way, were probably misinterpreted. like this more women in hell. also, that one that says however you kill yourself here you will kill yourself like that in the afterlife...over and over and over.
i think that could also be true in some way, like, someone kills himself, and in next universe, one that would be created same as this one, another earth would be created with same evolution, same humans come and he'd be in that same body (because he didn't develope to a higher level, so he's stuck) and he'd live same life, come to same point and kill himself like that again, and after that universe dies out, a new one is created, and another earth and another evolution and another set of humans and he comes in yet the same body (because he's in a state of hell, place of no evolution, he can't make progress) and he'd do it again.
so perhaps the prophet saw a vision of such a man living a horrible life (of hell) and kills himself, and he saw the cycle of this and saw him keep killing himself over and over, and someone heard this, another guy wrote it down, it became a hadith... a misinterpreted hadith.wow, me and my imagination, hehe
And by the way, brother nerspi, what's with the picture you're sharing with us, what's going on there, the demon and angel or is it Stallone and Snipes ....again.
it's a sign of a gemini, hehe two sides, good vs evil, blabla... hehehe
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Peace,
nobody can actually say for certain where is more of whom. but then again, according to some, and i'm slowly starting to agree, everybody will eventually go to "heaven" so it really doesn't matter.
Waqaloo lan tamassana alnnaru illa ayyaman maAAdoodatan qul attakhathtum AAinda Allahi AAahdan falan yukhlifa Allahu AAahdahu am taqooloona AAala Allahi ma la taAAlamoona
280 And they say "The Fire shall not touch us only days NUMBERED" Say "Did you take at God a promise, so God will not break His promise, or are you saying on God what you do not know?"
Thalika biannahum qaloo lan tamassana alnnaru illa ayyaman maAAdoodatin wagharrahum fee deenihim ma kanoo yaftaroona
324 This because they say "The Fire shall not touch us only days NUMBERED" and deceived them in their religion what they were fabricating.
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Peace,
Waqaloo lan tamassana alnnaru illa ayyaman maAAdoodatan qul attakhathtum AAinda Allahi AAahdan falan yukhlifa Allahu AAahdahu am taqooloona AAala Allahi ma la taAAlamoona
280 And they say "The Fire shall not touch us only days NUMBERED" Say "Did you take at God a promise, so God will not break His promise, or are you saying on God what you do not know?"
Thalika biannahum qaloo lan tamassana alnnaru illa ayyaman maAAdoodatin wagharrahum fee deenihim ma kanoo yaftaroona
324 This because they say "The Fire shall not touch us only days NUMBERED" and deceived them in their religion what they were fabricating.
Aren't those verses referring specifically to what the Jews said/say?
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I think some out there don't believe in this exact meaning though.
I like her take on it http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYoNDgB-jDU (lol my comment owns amirite?)
And her's http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEcNaVkQUx4
And...his?! o http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxWVkhLIBi8
Actually, I think the general sunni consenus is that they aren't...dumb....or less intelligent. However the general consensus that they are the majority in hell is still funny. So it's easier to go to hell for not being thankful enough to your husband than it is for cleansing Europe of Jews via torture camps and driving planes into buildings killing hundreds of unsuspecting people.
I guess that being ungrateful to your husband causes them to drive planes into buildings. D
Yeah I don't get that .... if because a woman is not thankful to her husband that she goes to hell, that would put her husband in a position between her and God. At least, that's the way I see it. -
Peace aynur,
Aren't those verses referring specifically to what the Jews said/say?
No, read context which talks about Al-Kitab/The Book no mention of Jews.
Also the answer given each time is a definite no regardless who said/says it.
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Peace aynur,
No, read context which talks about Al-Kitab/The Book no mention of Jews.
Also the answer given each time is a definite no regardless who said/says it.
Peace.
Okay, I had to look it up in my translation to refresh my memory.My footnote for 280 says "According to popular Jewish belief, even the sinners from among the children of Israel will suffer only very limited punishment in the life to come, and will be quickly reprieved by virtue of their belonging to 'the chosen people' a belief which the Qur'an rejects."
The footnote for 324 says refer to 280 & the corresponding footnote.
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Peace.
Okay, I had to look it up in my translation to refresh my memory. )My footnote for 280 says "According to popular Jewish belief, even the sinners from among the children of Israel will suffer only very limited punishment in the life to come, and will be quickly reprieved by virtue of their belonging to 'the chosen people' a belief which the Qur'an rejects."
The footnote for 324 says refer to 280 & the corresponding footnote.
Can't spell Jewish without "ew" P
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She was a warmonger like Sarah Palin, wasn't she? Hillary Clinton is no different either. I think this is enough evidence of the fact that women are just as evil as men )
No, why would you think that? The only war Margaret Thatcher was involved in was the Falklands war, defending and liberating a British island after it was invaded by Argentina. She was probably one of the best Prime Ministers the UK had seen in many lifetimes, turned the country around from being almost bankrupt to being the richest and most respected in Europe. It was her and Reagan that convinced the Russians to withdraw from East Germany. Great lady
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No, why would you think that? The only war Margaret Thatcher was involved in was the Falklands war, defending and liberating a British island after it was invaded by Argentina. She was probably one of the best Prime Ministers the UK had seen in many lifetimes, turned the country around from being almost bankrupt to being the richest and most respected in Europe. It was her and Reagan that convinced the Russians to withdraw from East Germany. Great lady
Defending a British Island? The Island is practically on Argentina's door step. As for a great lady, she privatised everything and I havent even mentioned the poll tax she come up with, remember the riots? Anyways I am sure there was some good she did but overall I did not like her.
Peace
Hope
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Defending a British Island? The Island is practically on Argentina's door step. As for a great lady, she privatised everything and I havent even mentioned the poll tax she come up with, remember the riots? Anyways I am sure there was some good she did but overall I did not like her.
Peace
Hope
Yes a British island where every one on the island is British and speaks only English and is entitled to the full protection of Britain just as any other part of Britain is. She privatised a lot, yes she did, taking many big organisations from massive debt into profit. The so called "Poll-tax" was called the community Charge, originally a very fair way of taxation to replace the very unfair "rates" system. the riots were caused by people that had got away with not paying the old rates for many years. The system that is now in place called the "Council tax" is almost identical to the Community charge or so called poll-tax.
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Defending a British Island? The Island is practically on Argentina's door step. As for a great lady, she privatised everything and I havent even mentioned the poll tax she come up with, remember the riots? Anyways I am sure there was some good she did but overall I did not like her.
Peace
Hope
She only waged war in self defence.
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Yes a British island where every one on the island is British and speaks only English and is entitled to the full protection of Britain just as any other part of Britain is. She privatised a lot, yes she did, taking many big organisations from massive debt into profit. The so called "Poll-tax" was called the community Charge, originally a very fair way of taxation to replace the very unfair "rates" system. the riots were caused by people that had got away with not paying the old rates for many years. The system that is now in place called the "Council tax" is almost identical to the Community charge or so called poll-tax.
Peace Rev.John
Since their discovery, the Falkland Islands have had a complex history. France, Britain, Spain, and Argentina have all claimed possession at some time, and have established and abandoned settlements on the islands. So its hard to see who really owns it.
Poll tax was a fixed amount per individual. Council tax is a tax paid per property. So if you lived in a house with you your wife and 2 kids over 18 all 4 of you had to pay poll tax and it does not matter if you was a rich family or poor, all paid the same. I dont believe this to be fair. However, council tax is paid by each house owner and depending on the area and house their is different bands, so the rich pay more than the poor. A much fairer system in my opinion. Under Thatcher the rich became richer and the poor became poorer. Eventually she lost the backing of her cabinate and she resigned. No more Iron lady.Peace
Hope
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Peace Rev.John
Since their discovery, the Falkland Islands have had a complex history. France, Britain, Spain, and Argentina have all claimed possession at some time, and have established and abandoned settlements on the islands. So its hard to see who really owns it.
Poll tax was a fixed amount per individual. Council tax is a tax paid per property. So if you lived in a house with you your wife and 2 kids over 18 all 4 of you had to pay poll tax and it does not matter if you was a rich family or poor, all paid the same. I dont believe this to be fair. However, council tax is paid by each house owner and depending on the area and house their is different bands, so the rich pay more than the poor. A much fairer system in my opinion. Under Thatcher the rich became richer and the poor became poorer. Eventually she lost the backing of her cabinate and she resigned. No more Iron lady.Peace
Hope
I understand what you are saying, but the idea was that if, as you say, 4 people were living in the house, then they use 4 times the services than one person in the house, which sounds fair to me. But your opinion and mine was the reason for the whole argument about it. I'm not sure it can be resolved into right or wrong, which is why it grew into riots. Both sides had their point.
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I understand what you are saying, but the idea was that if, as you say, 4 people were living in the house, then they use 4 times the services than one person in the house, which sounds fair to me. But your opinion and mine was the reason for the whole argument about it. I'm not sure it can be resolved into right or wrong, which is why it grew into riots. Both sides had their point.
Well I feel the rich should pay more, they have more to give.
Peace
Hope