Hot/"ramadan" Answer
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Peace,
No, light (sunlight) only removes darkness/night from a object if the object expose itself to sunlight.Darkness exist by itself.
" Darkness does not exist . Darkness is in reality the absence of light. Light we can study, but not darkness. In fact we can use Newton 's prism to break white light into many colors and study the various wavelengths of each color. You cannot measure darkness. A simple ray of light can break into a world of darkness and illuminate it. How can you know how dark a certain space is? You measure the amount of light present. Isn't this correct? Darkness is a term used by man to describe what happens when there is no light present."
You have to be proud of yourself, you've just debunked Albert Einstein !
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Peace Belal, everyone,
rotfl This is stupidity as it can be... rotfl
If you are going to parade your ignorance on the forum then do it in small fonts. Especially, since you know that you didn?t dare to say anything about the word ?yarkh? in this very familiar Arabic inscription that I provided in the same post
http//www.islamic-awareness.org/History/Islam/Inscriptions/raqush.html
Also, unless you enjoy humiliating yourself, when saying things like that in big fonts, you had better be knowledgeable about the subject and be 100% sure that you are right. You will see why next.
Can anyone, including Ayman and his followers, quote any of the above words in Quran...If you cannot, and you will not, then would this make you feel that Ayman is underestimating your intelligence by claiming that the above language is Authantic Arabic like the Quran Language.
So according to your own criteria, all I have to do is show ANY word that is in the great reading to prove that you are overestimating your own intelligence. Now read the following line that you quoted
( bi)n / (b) akhayal / rahman / wa rakhaw / zalan / salthany / w sathya/ ws
The word ?rahman? as an attribute of the god can be found many times in the great reading (11, etc). So I did quote you ?any? word that is in the great reading and I can stop right here after proving to everyone that you are overestimating your own intelligence and underestimating your ignorance. However, I will continue so as to do you a favor and help you snap out of any delusions you may still have about your intelligence. You will thank me later when you wizen up. )
w yement / wa r'a rab hamw / Twadam / w thamat / satro / zn / satran / K'ghazow
Ma'ndam / Ghazwatn / rab'atan / b'warkhan / Zthbatan /Kafa saadu / kl/ bani amrm
Wa zaki/ malikn/ abjabar / b ainam/ kadat/ wain/ w basharm / bin hasahanm/ bainm
San dam/ wa mardam / wa hadaru/ qadami / jayshan/ alia bani yamram/ kadat/ wail/ b wad /samrakh / wa mardam/ wa sadam/ b wad..
B manhaj / tarban/ w zabahow / w asarw / w ghanamw / zaisam / wa makhdah/ malakin/ b halban/ wa danw
Ka zalam/ maidam / wrahanw / wa badanahaw / nwa sa'aham mw / amram / bin/ mazran.
Wa rahanamw / bin haw / wa sata khalafw / ala/ ma'dam/ wa qafalw/ bin/ hal.
( bi)n / (b) akhayal / rahman / wa rakhaw / zalan / salthany / w sathya/ ws
The following words in the inscription appear in the great reading
Tawd mountain (2663)
Satro wrote (681)
Saadu repelled/confronted (2217, etc.)
Zaki promoted/bettered (243, etc.)
Malikan the king (2246, etc.)
Wad valley (1437, etc.)
Zabahow slaughtered (267, etc.)
Asarow took prisoner (285, etc.)
Ghanamw took the spoils of war (4100, etc.)
Danw come near (538, etc.)
Rahanw took as collateral (2283)
Khalafw appointed (230, etc.)
Khayl power/horses (860)In addition to the above, words such as ?jayshan? (army), ?ghazwat? (raid) and others are routinely used even in modern Arabic today. So Belal not only ignores the pre-Islamic language of the great reading but also modern Arabic spoken by native Arabic speakers.
As a side note The person who did the transcription and transliteration didn?t do a good job. Firstly, he confused transcription and transliteration and switched them. What Belal copied and pasted should actually be called the transliteration and not the transcription. Second, he made many obvious mistakes in the transliteration. For example, he mistakenly attached the Alif of ?asarw? (take prisoner) to the preceding ?and? (?w?) in line vi and he mistakenly attaches a non existent Alif to ?khayl? in line ix, to name a few mistakes. All those errors can be easily spotted by looking at the transcription (which he mistakenly called transliteration). The person who did the page is probably the Webmaster or the museum curator and doesn?t seem to have good knowledge about pre-Islamic Arabian dialects. Judging from the hypercorrections that he inserted in the transliteration (for example ar-rahman for rahmanan), the guy is certainly a native Arabic speaker.
Is this what do you call Arabic!!! You have lost your Brain...Can any one tell me if this looks like any writtings of Quran
Let us see if Free- Minds Moderators will do something about thisYou are only exposing that you ignore the difference between language and script. The script is irrelevant. For example, ?Bism allah alrahman alrahim? is in Arabic language despite being in English script. You are also further confirming your ignorance since the Arabian Musnad script of the inscription is the real Arabic script which has the full 28 letters of Arabic represented. On the other hand, the Nabataean Aramaic script that was used to write the great reading is a foreign script and therefore it doesn?t have all the letters of the Arabic language represented (Aramaic only has 22 letters). This is why dotting has to be used to disambiguate the letters, just like the apostrophe is used in English with the letter A to disambiguate ?Ain and Alif.
If you truly wants to know what is the pre-islamic arabic, study this--Jesus Language, Aramic.
http//sepehr.mohamadi.name/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/aat_table.jpgYou are in over your head in things that you have zero knowledge of. Can you please show everyone where the Arabic letters Thaa , Khaa , Thaal , Dhad , Thah and Ghain are in your table? As I said, unlike the Sabaic South Arabia dialect, Aramaic (and the Nabataean Aramaic variation) are not even Arabian languages. They are foreign languages and therefore only have 22 letters while Arabian dialects have 28 letters. Unlike you, I will not lie and say that you are brainless since the god gave you a brain. I will say that if you used your god-given brain then you would have seen this fact from your own figure instead of just blindly posting stuff you have no knowledge of.
Peace,
Ayman
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Peace Eid,
Perpetual straw-man arguments ? ?so do you think? then overlay your thoughts as being mine. Read context, was responding to your accusation of making fun using the word ?hot? which you use ?scorching? and called this thread Hot/"ramadan".
What straw-man? You were defending the sectarian arbitrary calendar where ?ramadhan? can occur at any haphazard time, even in the cold of winter. Either you believe that the god uses the word ?scorching/hot? haphazardly and ?ramadhan? can be during the cold of winter or you agree with me that the timing for ?ramadhan/scorching/hot must be during the hot time of the year. There is no other choice and this is irrespective of whether ?shahr? means full-moon, crescent, or month.
That is issuing a fatwa -- the blind and those in cloudy weather are NOT obligated to fast.
Using your logic, I could also say that you are issuing a ?fatwa? FORCING the blind and those in cloudy weather to fast.
Qur?an has a provision for those not able; e.g. feed the poor or today, had acid indigestion, auto reacted, reached for a glass of water, realized too late and broke my fast; no big deal hope to make it up another day same as a few days missed due to being ?under the weather.?
You refuted and contradicted yourself in countless earlier posts and threads?
Suggest a re-write a new thread ?Hot/Ramadan II? since this topic is all over the place and cluttered.I suggest that you reread 2185 and see that it clearly says ?man shahid minkum? (whoever witnesses from amongst you). What is the purpose of saying whoever witnesses from amongst you, unless some amongst you will not witness? Who are the people AMONGST YOU (the believers) who will not witness according to you? If witnessing was not required and just being present is required then the statement is redundant and unnecessary and the god could have simply said ?fast? and that would be it. You are not blind nor it was cloudy during the night of the scorching full-moon and yet you didn?t witness it and you weren?t even aware of it so you are not obligated to fast (but absolutely you still can fast anyway).
You changed your mind on this too as you did with hajj (debate/feast) which your current restriction varies approximately from June/July 21 to Sept/Oct 18 depending on the year?
21-Jun
21-Jul
20-Aug
18-Sep
18-Oct
April 25 - 26, 2009 Youth turkey-hunting weekend ? No Protection!
May 3 - May 31 Spring gobbler season (wild turkey) ? No Protection!
Sept. 1 - November 24, 2009 Black bear/end dates vary for method ? No Protection 1-2 months!Sept. 2009 - Jan. 2010 Waterfowl/dates vary by species and zone ? No Protection 3 months!
Sept. 26-27, 2009 Youth waterfowl weekend (Saturday and Sunday)
Sept. 15 - Dec. 15 Deer/archery ? No Protection 2 months!
Sept. 15 - Dec. 15 Fall turkey/archery ? No Protection 2 months!
Oct. 12 - Oct. 16, 2009 Fall turkey/shotgun (in certain WMUs only); Monday ? Friday
Sept. 2009 - March 2010 Small game/dates vary by species and region ? No Protection!
Oct. 1 - Dec. 31 Pheasant ? No Protection!
Oct. 17 - Oct. 25 Moose (by permit only) ? No Protection!
Oct. 24 - 25 Youth deer-hunting weekend ? No Protection!
Oct. 31 - Nov. 10 Deer/muzzleloader (note -- opens Nov. 2 in WMU A) ? No Protection!
Nov. 11 - Dec. 6 Deer/firearms (note -- closes Nov. 29 in WMU A) ? No Protection!
Also see prior post?You are misreading the data. The info gives the times when hunting is ALLOWED not when hunting is restricted. Now read again and see how the protection mostly overlaps except a few times for the animals whose hunting season starts in mid September and the difference is only for a couple of weeks on average.
Absolutely agree, find it appalling the worst of disbelief including the mindless ocean/sea hunting to feed people?s fetishes/appetite for the exotic and renewed my Greenpeace membership today which was doubled by a most generous supporter.
638 And (there is) not from a walker/creeper/crawler (creature) in the earth and nor (a) bird (that) flies with its two wings, except (they are) nations similar/alike/equal to you, We did not neglect in The Book from a thing, then to their Lord they be gathered.I agree completely. So by the same token, the restriction is about protecting wild life all over the world from humans who hunt them for food during the period of the FOUR inviolable ?shahr? and not just around Mecca and only on the arbitrary days from 8th of Dhu Al-Hijjah to 13th of Dhu Al-Hijjah while people are walking around half-naked wearing nothing but towels as the sectarians whose timing you are defending are proposing. Otherwise, there is no purpose of the god clearly decreeing FOUR inviolable ?shahr? and if your understanding is correct then he would have just clearly said ?from 8th of Dhu Al-Hijjah to 13th of Dhu Al-Hijjah and only in the vicinity of Mecca?.
Peace and all best wishes,
Ayman
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Peace,
" Darkness does not exist . Darkness is in reality the absence of light. Light we can study, but not darkness. In fact we can use Newton 's prism to break white light into many colors and study the various wavelengths of each color. You cannot measure darkness. A simple ray of light can break into a world of darkness and illuminate it. How can you know how dark a certain space is? You measure the amount of light present. Isn't this correct? Darkness is a term used by man to describe what happens when there is no light present."
You have to be proud of yourself, you've just debunked Albert Einstein !
Read and heed. You put Albert Einstein over the God. What a miserable person.
61 - Praise be to GOD, who created the heavens and the earth, and made the darkness and the light. Yet, those who disbelieve in their Lord continue to deviate.
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You shall observe the Contact Prayer (Salat) when the sun declines towards the darkening of the night. You shall also observe (the recitation of) the Quran at dawn. (Reciting) the Quran at dawn is witnessed.
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So do you still deny that the sun determines (someway) the night and day ??
Who are you trying to fool ?I bet if Ayman tell you that the milk is white and the tar is black, you'll still would go debunking him.
Is it personal ??
Salam
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Peace,
You shall observe the Contact Prayer (Salat) when the sun declines towards the darkening of the night. You shall also observe (the recitation of) the Quran at dawn. (Reciting) the Quran at dawn is witnessed.
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So do you still deny that the sun determines (someway) the night and day ??
Who are you trying to fool ?I bet if Ayman tell you that the milk is white and the tar is black, you'll still would go debunking him.
Is it personal ??
Salam
If light is removed then the natural state is darkness. The verse you quoted is consistent with this concept.
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Peace,
If light is removed then the natural state is darkness. The verse you quoted is consistent with this concept.So you agree that Darkness depends on the presence of the light . Ok , so where DID Einstein contradict GOD ??
Also , Notice that CREATING is Different from MAKING...Had GOD not created heavens, the earth would still exist.
In opposite, had GOD not MADE the light, it will be no darkness. you can call it whatever you want but NOT darkness. -
Peace,
No, light (sunlight) only removes darkness/night from a object if the object expose itself to sunlight.Darkness exist by itself.
so you are saying
light removes darkness = day
absence of light = night
so light determines day and night?
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Hey guest,
I visualise you living in a cave in Afghanistan and typing away in this forum.
Are you for real?
Can you have a forward looking outlook? or are you like some who refuse to sit on a sofa
because in the time of the Prophet there was none?
Don't you see why the Muslims are so backward, because of backward thinking like yours, and
more to the point, an inability to grasp a big picture, and getting lost in details and false logic.
For any human being since the dawn of humanity, they saw the sun revolving around the earth,
so it appeared to them as if (this is relative motion) the Sun revolves around the Earth.
The Quran is very subtle, read it subtly, I am really always amazed and disappointed at the
ignorance of the Sunnis or Shias, who can be pretty intelligent, but when it comes to issues of
Deen, it is like their heart gets clouded over by a deep fog.
How can you separate Deen and day to day life, are you out of your mind.
Your Qareen is indeed very powerful... -
- Southern/Central Arabian dialect (see ?warkh? used to mean month)
http//www.mnh.si.edu/epigraphy/e_pre-islamic/fig04_sabaean.htm
Peace all,
After an extensive search, it appear that the recent spoken Amharic language (Ethiopian) is identical to what you thought is the Root Language of Quran... even the word Warkh still used between Ethiopians and means Month brickwall
months ( )
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/w?rat/Therefore, your claiming of the Sabaean Language to be the authentic Quranic Language= Zero
Please study the following to learn about the Original Quranic Language
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTcq_VmEBG0
It is the Semitic language what appears to be the root of the Islamic Arabic language. This relationship places Arabic firmly in the Afro-Asiatic group of world languages.
Please do your own search, using valid and reliable sources if you want to argue.I can quote Italian, English and Spanish words that has an Arabic root...does that make the Languages relate to each others, and can be used to understand its authentic meanings?
- Southern/Central Arabian dialect (see ?warkh? used to mean month)
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You are in over your head in things that you have zero knowledge of. Can you please show everyone where the Arabic letters Thaa , Khaa , Thaal , Dhad , Thah and Ghain are in your table? As I said, unlike the Sabaic South Arabia dialect, Aramaic (and the Nabataean Aramaic variation) are not even Arabian languages. They are foreign languages and therefore only have 22 letters while Arabian dialects have 28 letters. Unlike you, I will not lie and say that you are brainless since the god gave you a brain. I will say that if you used your god-given brain then you would have seen this fact from your own figure instead of just blindly posting stuff you have no knowledge of.
Peace,
Ayman
Your answer can be found in this study...It shows how these letters evolved .
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Islamic_Arabic_inscriptions
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Peace everyone,
Your answer can be found in this study...It shows how these letters evolved .
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Islamic_Arabic_inscriptionsThis just demonstrates that Belal is still clueless about the difference between letters (script) and language.
Here is another pre-Islamic Arabian inscription showing the word "yarkh" to mean "month" and this one uses the Nabataean Aramaic letters.
http//i25.tinypic.com/212etdw.gif
From
http//www.islamic-awareness.org/History/Islam/Inscriptions/raqush.htmlPeace,
Ayman
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Peace Belal,
Ayman, Here is my gift for you from the same link
these are some of the early Arabic scripts that is written on the wall of the True Kabba.
http//www.islamic-awareness.org/History/Islam/Inscriptions/DoTR.htmlAnd your point is? Or do you just like to show off that you revere a shrine you named Kaaba which is built for a filthy rock that people idolize?
Peace,
Ayman
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Peace Belal,
And your point is? Or do you just like to show off that you revere a shrine you named Kaaba which is built for a filthy rock that people idolize?
Peace,
Ayman
rotfl Did I trigger your Stressful Hormones; Now you are calling the Kabba in Macca and the Dom of the Rock in Jerusalem FILTHY ROCK .
Here is another gift for you that will trigger a huge dose of the Stressful Hormons
You saidPeace everyone,
This just demonstrates that Belal is still clueless about the difference between letters (script) and language.
Here is another pre-Islamic Arabian inscription showing the word "yarkh" to mean "month" and this one uses the Nabataean Aramaic letters.
http//i25.tinypic.com/212etdw.gif
From
http//www.islamic-awareness.org/History/Islam/Inscriptions/raqush.htmlPeace,
Ayman
above you said Yarkh (ك = Month; after my search, it appears that God used the Word Yarkh in the Great Reading (Quran)
26218 The One who sees you when you stand.
26218Should Ayman now withdraw his argument about the word Month in Arabic? or should He propose a new translation to the above verse to be
26218 The One who MOTH you when you stand.
Ayman, it is your time to shut down your Argument until you further study this subject...otherwise, you are making a fool of yourself in front of us and your kids.
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Here is another gift for you that will trigger a huge dose of the Stressful Hormons
You said
above you said Yarkh (ك = Month; after my search, it appears that God used the Word Yarkh in the Great Reading (Quran)26218 The One who sees you when you stand.
26218Should Ayman now withdraw his argument about the word Month in Arabic? or should He propose a new translation to the above verse to be
26218 The One who MONTH you when you stand.
Oh my God, i thought you belal, were an arabic speaker !!!! What's this ? are you kidding us ? where do you see (yaraaka) , in the quoted pre-islamic inscription ??? moreover, you highlited it in red !!! = (yarkh)
month = not !!!! are you blind ?? (if so, don't fast laugh)
= sees you
= + = in month
do you read "yaraaka" the same way that you read "yarkh" ? what's this ?????????????????????
if you wrote this at the beginning of this thread, i would have ignored you by now, and it is what everyone here would have done ! And this thread would have been much shorter !
it's ABSOLUTLY USELESS to talk with you . Sorry, i wasted my time with such ignorant and extremely mulish person as you ...
take arabic lessons or start learning salsa, no more options ...you're as far from Quran as the Sun from Pluto !!
Ayman, it is your time to shut down your Argument until you further study this subject...otherwise, you are making a fool of yourself in front of us and your kids.
just replace "Ayman" by "belh" and you will get a reasonable phrase.
P.S it's very clear that it is either your eyes or your brain (surely both) that are sooo stressful.
tututututututututututututut !
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Oh my God, i thought you belal, were an arabic speaker !!!! What's this ? are you kidding us ? where do you see (yaraaka) , in the quoted pre-islamic inscription ??? moreover, you highlited it red !!! = (yarkh)
month = not !!!! are you blind ?? (if so, don't fast laugh)
= see you
= + = in month
do you read yarraka the same way that you read yarkh ? what's this ? ????????????????????
just replace "Ayman" by "belh" and you will get a reasonable phrase.
tututututututututututututut !
I have been searching the Quran for the words that Ayman suggested to be Month (Yarkh and Wark) and the close that I can get is the Word I showed 'Yarraka...of course this word meaning has nothing to do with the word Ayman suggested, but that is the close as it can get. Can you see that Ayman instead of admiting that Shahar is the right word for Month, He is Posting Semitic Words and Aramic words.
If you want to continue diffending your Lord, let Him show us a True Arabic Word for Month...after all he have showed that the Word Month has been used for thausand of years in different languages, but why not in Arabic language. Does that tell you that Shaher is the Word?
I hope you can see the struggle we are going through with Ayman and his followers...Again
What is the Authantic ARABIC word that is Equal to the English Word "MONTH".
Please Post an Arabic Quotation and not other language if you want to end this in a mutual agreement...Otherwise, I will keep taking this thread as a game in which Stupidity is allowed.
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Peace all
Please Copy the following word (Shahr) and paste in the following link that has FOUR Classic ARABIC dictionaries.
http//www.lexilogos.com/english/arabic_dictionary.htm
You will note that all the dictionaries translate it to "Month"...Is this a reliable and valid argument that Shahar is the True Meaning of "Month"?
I think I'm done with the Shahar = Month Argument.
Peace all