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    quickduck
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    You shall observe the Contact Prayer (Salat) when the sun declines towards the darkening of the night. You shall also observe (the recitation of) the Quran at dawn. (Reciting) the Quran at dawn is witnessed.

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    So do you still deny that the sun determines (someway) the night and day ??
    Who are you trying to fool ?

    I bet if Ayman tell you that the milk is white and the tar is black, you'll still would go debunking him.

    Is it personal ??

    Salam

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      Peace,

      You shall observe the Contact Prayer (Salat) when the sun declines towards the darkening of the night. You shall also observe (the recitation of) the Quran at dawn. (Reciting) the Quran at dawn is witnessed.

      (177

      So do you still deny that the sun determines (someway) the night and day ??
      Who are you trying to fool ?

      I bet if Ayman tell you that the milk is white and the tar is black, you'll still would go debunking him.

      Is it personal ??

      Salam

      If light is removed then the natural state is darkness. The verse you quoted is consistent with this concept.

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        Peace,
        If light is removed then the natural state is darkness. The verse you quoted is consistent with this concept.

        So you agree that Darkness depends on the presence of the light . Ok , so where DID Einstein contradict GOD ??

        Also , Notice that CREATING is Different from MAKING...Had GOD not created heavens, the earth would still exist.
        In opposite, had GOD not MADE the light, it will be no darkness. you can call it whatever you want but NOT darkness.

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          unknownuser
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          Peace,
          No, light (sunlight) only removes darkness/night from a object if the object expose itself to sunlight.

          Darkness exist by itself.

          so you are saying

          light removes darkness = day

          absence of light = night

          so light determines day and night?

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            quickduck
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            Peace Rasulhamsa

            so you are saying

            light removes darkness = day

            absence of light = night

            so light determines day and night?

            Do you really expect Guest to understand This ??

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              Rev_John
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              so you are saying

              light removes darkness = day

              absence of light = night

              so light determines day and night?

              Actually there is no such thing as darkness, it is just the absence of light. Just as cold is only the absence of heat.

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                noble
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                Hey guest,
                I visualise you living in a cave in Afghanistan and typing away in this forum.
                Are you for real?
                Can you have a forward looking outlook? or are you like some who refuse to sit on a sofa
                because in the time of the Prophet there was none?
                Don't you see why the Muslims are so backward, because of backward thinking like yours, and
                more to the point, an inability to grasp a big picture, and getting lost in details and false logic.
                For any human being since the dawn of humanity, they saw the sun revolving around the earth,
                so it appeared to them as if (this is relative motion) the Sun revolves around the Earth.
                The Quran is very subtle, read it subtly, I am really always amazed and disappointed at the
                ignorance of the Sunnis or Shias, who can be pretty intelligent, but when it comes to issues of
                Deen, it is like their heart gets clouded over by a deep fog.
                How can you separate Deen and day to day life, are you out of your mind.
                Your Qareen is indeed very powerful...

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                  belH
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                  1. Southern/Central Arabian dialect (see ?warkh? used to mean month)
                    http//www.mnh.si.edu/epigraphy/e_pre-islamic/fig04_sabaean.htm

                  Peace all,

                  After an extensive search, it appear that the recent spoken Amharic language (Ethiopian) is identical to what you thought is the Root Language of Quran... even the word Warkh still used between Ethiopians and means Month brickwall

                  months ( )
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                  /w?rat/

                  Therefore, your claiming of the Sabaean Language to be the authentic Quranic Language= Zero

                  Please study the following to learn about the Original Quranic Language

                  http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTcq_VmEBG0

                  It is the Semitic language what appears to be the root of the Islamic Arabic language. This relationship places Arabic firmly in the Afro-Asiatic group of world languages.
                  Please do your own search, using valid and reliable sources if you want to argue.

                  I can quote Italian, English and Spanish words that has an Arabic root...does that make the Languages relate to each others, and can be used to understand its authentic meanings?

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                    belH
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                    You are in over your head in things that you have zero knowledge of. Can you please show everyone where the Arabic letters Thaa , Khaa , Thaal , Dhad , Thah and Ghain are in your table? As I said, unlike the Sabaic South Arabia dialect, Aramaic (and the Nabataean Aramaic variation) are not even Arabian languages. They are foreign languages and therefore only have 22 letters while Arabian dialects have 28 letters. Unlike you, I will not lie and say that you are brainless since the god gave you a brain. I will say that if you used your god-given brain then you would have seen this fact from your own figure instead of just blindly posting stuff you have no knowledge of.

                    Peace,

                    Ayman

                    Your answer can be found in this study...It shows how these letters evolved .

                    http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Islamic_Arabic_inscriptions

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                      Peace everyone,

                      Your answer can be found in this study...It shows how these letters evolved .
                      http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Islamic_Arabic_inscriptions

                      This just demonstrates that Belal is still clueless about the difference between letters (script) and language.

                      Here is another pre-Islamic Arabian inscription showing the word "yarkh" to mean "month" and this one uses the Nabataean Aramaic letters.

                      http//i25.tinypic.com/212etdw.gif

                      From
                      http//www.islamic-awareness.org/History/Islam/Inscriptions/raqush.html

                      Peace,

                      Ayman

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                        belH
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                        Peace all,

                        Ayman, Here is my gift for you from the same link

                        these are some of the early Arabic scripts that is written on the wall of the True Kabba.

                        http//www.islamic-awareness.org/History/Islam/Inscriptions/DoTR.html

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                          ayman
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                          Peace Belal,

                          Ayman, Here is my gift for you from the same link
                          these are some of the early Arabic scripts that is written on the wall of the True Kabba.
                          http//www.islamic-awareness.org/History/Islam/Inscriptions/DoTR.html

                          And your point is? Or do you just like to show off that you revere a shrine you named Kaaba which is built for a filthy rock that people idolize?

                          Peace,

                          Ayman

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                            belH
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                            Peace Belal,

                            And your point is? Or do you just like to show off that you revere a shrine you named Kaaba which is built for a filthy rock that people idolize?

                            Peace,

                            Ayman

                            rotfl Did I trigger your Stressful Hormones; Now you are calling the Kabba in Macca and the Dom of the Rock in Jerusalem FILTHY ROCK .

                            Here is another gift for you that will trigger a huge dose of the Stressful Hormons
                            You said

                            Peace everyone,

                            This just demonstrates that Belal is still clueless about the difference between letters (script) and language.

                            Here is another pre-Islamic Arabian inscription showing the word "yarkh" to mean "month" and this one uses the Nabataean Aramaic letters.

                            http//i25.tinypic.com/212etdw.gif

                            From
                            http//www.islamic-awareness.org/History/Islam/Inscriptions/raqush.html

                            Peace,

                            Ayman

                            above you said Yarkh (&#1603 = Month; after my search, it appears that God used the Word Yarkh in the Great Reading (Quran)

                            26218 The One who sees you when you stand.
                            26218

                            Should Ayman now withdraw his argument about the word Month in Arabic? or should He propose a new translation to the above verse to be

                            26218 The One who MOTH you when you stand.

                            Ayman, it is your time to shut down your Argument until you further study this subject...otherwise, you are making a fool of yourself in front of us and your kids.

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                              Here is another gift for you that will trigger a huge dose of the Stressful Hormons
                              You said
                              above you said Yarkh (&#1603 = Month; after my search, it appears that God used the Word Yarkh in the Great Reading (Quran)

                              26218 The One who sees you when you stand.
                              26218

                              Should Ayman now withdraw his argument about the word Month in Arabic? or should He propose a new translation to the above verse to be

                              26218 The One who MONTH you when you stand.

                              Oh my God, i thought you belal, were an arabic speaker !!!! What's this ? are you kidding us ? where do you see (yaraaka) , in the quoted pre-islamic inscription ??? moreover, you highlited it in red !!! = (yarkh)

                              month = not !!!! are you blind ?? (if so, don't fast laugh)

                              = sees you

                              = + = in month

                              do you read "yaraaka" the same way that you read "yarkh" ? what's this ?????????????????????

                              if you wrote this at the beginning of this thread, i would have ignored you by now, and it is what everyone here would have done ! And this thread would have been much shorter !

                              it's ABSOLUTLY USELESS to talk with you . Sorry, i wasted my time with such ignorant and extremely mulish person as you ...

                              take arabic lessons or start learning salsa, no more options ...you're as far from Quran as the Sun from Pluto !!

                              Ayman, it is your time to shut down your Argument until you further study this subject...otherwise, you are making a fool of yourself in front of us and your kids.

                              just replace "Ayman" by "belh" and you will get a reasonable phrase.

                              P.S it's very clear that it is either your eyes or your brain (surely both) that are sooo stressful.

                              tututututututututututututut !

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                                Oh my God, i thought you belal, were an arabic speaker !!!! What's this ? are you kidding us ? where do you see (yaraaka) , in the quoted pre-islamic inscription ??? moreover, you highlited it red !!! = (yarkh)

                                month = not !!!! are you blind ?? (if so, don't fast laugh)

                                = see you

                                = + = in month

                                do you read yarraka the same way that you read yarkh ? what's this ? ????????????????????

                                just replace "Ayman" by "belh" and you will get a reasonable phrase.

                                tututututututututututututut !

                                I have been searching the Quran for the words that Ayman suggested to be Month (Yarkh and Wark) and the close that I can get is the Word I showed 'Yarraka...of course this word meaning has nothing to do with the word Ayman suggested, but that is the close as it can get. Can you see that Ayman instead of admiting that Shahar is the right word for Month, He is Posting Semitic Words and Aramic words.

                                If you want to continue diffending your Lord, let Him show us a True Arabic Word for Month...after all he have showed that the Word Month has been used for thausand of years in different languages, but why not in Arabic language. Does that tell you that Shaher is the Word?

                                I hope you can see the struggle we are going through with Ayman and his followers...Again

                                What is the Authantic ARABIC word that is Equal to the English Word "MONTH".

                                Please Post an Arabic Quotation and not other language if you want to end this in a mutual agreement...Otherwise, I will keep taking this thread as a game in which Stupidity is allowed.

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                                  belH
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                                  Peace all

                                  Please Copy the following word (Shahr) and paste in the following link that has FOUR Classic ARABIC dictionaries.

                                  http//www.lexilogos.com/english/arabic_dictionary.htm

                                  You will note that all the dictionaries translate it to "Month"...Is this a reliable and valid argument that Shahar is the True Meaning of "Month"?

                                  I think I'm done with the Shahar = Month Argument.

                                  Peace all

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                                    siki
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                                    BelH

                                    I had asked you a question too.

                                    What is your criteria for making a month consisting of 30 days?

                                    siki

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                                      belH
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                                      BelH

                                      I had asked you a question too.

                                      What is your criteria for making a month consisting of 30 days?

                                      siki

                                      Per God's instructions in the Quran, the Bible, and the Old Testement to use the Moon Cycle period to calculate the Month length (it can be 29 or 30 days)

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                                        quickduck
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                                        I have been searching the Quran for the words that Ayman suggested to be Month (Yarkh and Wark) and the close that I can get is the Word I showed 'Yarraka...of course this word meaning has nothing to do with the word Ayman suggested, but that is the close as it can get.

                                        Very poor argument..

                                        let's reverse it Let's take the word "" ( Authentic arabic word that equals the english word "week", as you previously answered) . if i decided to look for it in the quran, then i quoted this word ( = the lion) as it is the most close word one can get from the quran and because the quran doesn't mention the word "week"/"" at all? What you would have treated me of ?? Ignorant? liar ? hypocrite? stubborn? satan worshiper ? idiot ? dumb ? blind? brainless ? dark agency follower ? donkey ? arrogant ? zero knowledge ? clueless ? non-sense champion? lock-hearted ? Astrayed ? disbeliever ? looser ? piggish ? What would you have said ????????

                                        What is the Authantic ARABIC word that is Equal to the English Word "MONTH".

                                        It depends on what do you mean by authentic arabic language .

                                        1 - If you mean northern/southern pre-islamic old arabic then month is "yarkh/warkh" ( / ).
                                        Although it doesn't appear in the quran (the word either) . It doesn't mean that they don't exist in human manmade calendars.
                                        2 - If you mean post islamic classical arabic, then month is "shahr" (&#1585 , the same as full-moon, as long as i it is (the full moon) the obvious marker of the moon.

                                        Otherwise, I will keep taking this thread as a game in which Stupidity is allowed.

                                        )

                                        Another stupid argument !

                                        Salam

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                                          siki
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                                          Per God's instructions in the Quran, the Bible, and the Old Testement to use the Moon Cycle period to calculate the Month length (it can be 29 or 30 days)

                                          Then why did you reply me with 60 days? why not 58 or 59 days?

                                          (when i asked you the question, "if God asks you to do something for two months , how many days in total you would do it for" ?)

                                          siki

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