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What is جَهَنَّم ?

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  • WakasW Offline
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    Wakas
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    I forgot to say do you mean there are no 5 letter roots at all?

    Apparently, there are 6 letter roots
    e.g. zanjablan 7617 / zy nn jm b' y' lm (some do not include the ya)
    salsablan 7618

    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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      bkanwar2
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      I forgot to say do you mean there are no 5 letter roots at all?

      Apparently, there are 6 letter roots
      e.g. zanjablan 7617 / zy nn jm b' y' lm (some do not include the ya)
      salsablan 7618

      Is there any one whom, I can have a rationale discussion on this topic? Sorry Wakas, for making a wrong assumption.

      Badar

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        Wakas
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        Is there any one whom, I can have a rationale discussion on this topic?

        "rationale is as rationale does"

        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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          unknownuser
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          Is there any one whom, I can have a rationale discussion on this topic? Sorry Wakas, for making a wrong assumption.

          Badar

          yes try this help line

          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=1172;type=avatar
          Sister Samia

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            bkanwar2
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            How about Layth?

            Badar

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              bkanwar2
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              #12

              Is anybody aware that in Classic Arabic, alphabet could be changed to in script?

              Badar

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                Jack
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                You can PM Layth, if you want his input. He doesn't get to read all the posts, fyi.

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                  FAR
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                  http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahannam

                  Someone needs to fix it.

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                    herbman
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                    Peace,

                    this word apparently is from hebrew like many others

                    Jahannam, Hell2 This word also, like its opposite Paradise, is of Jewish origin. According to its primary meaning and Biblical usage it too is the name of a place, though of a locality far less important than that which gave its name to Paradise. The vale of Hinnom was nothing more than a spot dedicated to idol worship and it is remarkable that the horror of idolatry led to the use of its name to designate hell. That this is the ordinary name for it in the Talmud needs no proof, and from it is derived the New Testament name Gehenna. Now, it might be asserted that Muhammad got this word front the Christians; but, even setting aside the argument that, as the name for Paradise is Jewish the probabilities are in favour of a Jewish origin for the word for hell also, the form of the word itself speaks for its derivation from Judaism. We lay no stress on the fact that the aspirate he, which is not expressed in the Greek, reappears in the Arabic, because this aspirate though not always indicated by grammarians in writing, appears to have been always sounded in speech. This holds good of other Greek words which have passed into Syriac.3 The letter mim which stands at the end of the Arabic (Jahannam), not being found in the Syriac word, proves the derivation from the

                    source
                    http//www.answering-islam.org/Books/Geiger/Judaism/chap11.htm

                    regards

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                      bkanwar2
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                      Dear Herbman, I want to thank you and acknowledge you for well researched, reason and logic based responses, duly backed by appropriate references. However, it is becoming increasingly apparent to me that actual message is more about, what Modern scholars of philosophy call Natural Laws. Hence, to use words relating to Divine mythology will not make sense. What do you think?

                      Badar

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                        bkanwar2
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                        Jack, thanks for the fyi. I did pm, hope he responds, hasn't in the past to my pms.

                        Badar

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                          Mazhar
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                          Firstly, I believe you missed one possible option out it could be a proper noun.

                          "And We have declared/appointed"

                          Proper Name

                          "for the deniers/rejecters/disbelievers"

                          Indefinite, accusative.
                          and can be taken both as Active participle and passive participle.

                          "As prison-one that restrains/imprisons within a protected/demarcated/guarded area".

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                            Dear all, just to clearify for ones who are wondering about this issue of proper noun. In classic Arabic there are only three kind of words. Nouns, verbs and particles. There is no seperate class of proper nouns. Proper nouns morphology follows the same structural rules as described above in my post.

                            Badar

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