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Free-Minds.org is another Sect...like Suni and Shia Sects.

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    sarah2505
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    Peace,
    Alqaida follows
    ...non-well-established Quranic verses (i.e., The verses that call for fighting when Moslem are under attack). The well-established verses call for Peace with Humans when Moslems are not under attack. Thus, Alqaida are the results of such the Evil Books.

    including the Quran? hey there are non-well-established verses in it too. So is the Quran an evil book for having a few less well-established verses?
    My point precisely.

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      belH
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      including the Quran? hey there are non-well-established verses in it too. So is the Quran an evil book for having a few less well-established verses?
      My point precisely.

      Peace
      please reread my post again; and reread 3-7.

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        belH
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        Peace Sarah,

        This an example of a Non-well-established in meaning verse

        95 So when the restricted months have passed, then you may kill the polytheists wherever you find them, and take them, and surround them, and stand against them at every point. If they repent, and they hold the bond, and they contribute towards purification, then you shall leave them alone. God is Forgiving, Merciful.
        95

        Any one with a sick heart (3-7) will keep killing the Polytheists for a period of 8 month a year for the rest of his life.

        This is the well-established Law of killing

        And fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not aggress, God does not love the aggressors.
        2190

        Peace

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          sarah2505
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          Peace
          please reread my post again; and reread 3-7.

          they won't believe in the book, so they'll pick and choose, and deliberately skip over 37
          no book is ever evil
          the people who interpret it may be. even in the books by rashad k, even though a lot is false, he did hit the nail on the head concerning rejecting bukhary as a source of guidance.

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            Yosemite
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            yes books are not evil or good, they have degrees of being right or accurate depending on the reader's views

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              TheNabi
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              Peace

              To me, this seems like another sect that has its own laws that are not 100% from Quran

              Laws enforced by whom?

              Joe

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                TheNabi
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                Peace

                Well, Satin has promised to upgrade peoples' Believes.

                This sounds like an admonishment against advancement to me. I say this because your post makes it seem like if one "advances" or "grows" as a person than they are wrong.

                Joe

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                  belH
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                  they won't believe in the book, so they'll pick and choose, and deliberately skip over 37
                  no book is ever evil
                  the people who interpret it may be. even in the books by rashad k, even though a lot is false, he did hit the nail on the head concerning rejecting bukhary as a source of guidance.

                  Are you saying that the Hadith Books does not contain Evil? Are you saying that the Books that call to woriship the Fire or an Idol instead of God are Good?

                  So woe to those who write the Book with their hands then say This is from God, so that they can purchase with it a cheap price! Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they gained.
                  279

                  Here what God called these Books

                  Did you not see those who were given a portion of the Book, they believe in sorcery and evil, and they say to those who rejected You are better guided than those who believed the path.
                  451

                  It is Satan who took the promise to mislead us; and some of his tools, is to make people write misleading religious books.
                  Peace

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                    noble
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                    Peace belH
                    oh dear...
                    There is no point in answering you
                    you will give the hadithist answer, then say you just translated ;D
                    i think you are brainwashed without realizing it...

                    Peace, my interpretation is not based on Hadith...It based on word by word translation.

                    Question, if God revealed to us the punishments of any crime, in your understanding, what are the revealed punishments for

                    Killing
                    Stealing
                    Zina

                    (sorry about the typo... ;D)

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                      belH
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                      Peace

                      This sounds like an admonishment against advancement to me. I say this because your post makes it seem like if one "advances" or "grows" as a person than they are wrong.

                      Joe

                      Peace,

                      No, this is not what I refereed to when saying this. I was referring to this promise

                      He said For that which You have caused me to be misled, I will stalk for them on Your straight path.
                      716

                      He said My Lord, for that by which You have caused me to be misled, I will beautify for them what is on the earth, and I will mislead them all.
                      1539

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                        belH
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                        Peace belH
                        oh dear...
                        There is no point in answering you
                        you will give the hadithist answer, then say you just translated ;D
                        i think you are brainwashed without realizing it...

                        Will, I challenge you to answer.

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                          sarah2505
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                          giveup
                          i am done with this thread

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                            noble
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                            Peace belH
                            i do not respond to idiocy
                            when you start really behaving like someone who genuinely wants to learn and reform, i will respond on your terms,
                            for now i do as i please ;D - you do not deserve any better...

                            Will, I challenge you to answer.

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                              belH
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                              Peace belH
                              i do not respond to idiocy
                              when you start really behaving like someone who genuinely wants to learn and reform, i will respond on your terms,
                              for now i do as i please ;D - you do not deserve any better...

                              It seems that I'm too aggressive for your comfort zone (Quote from Nabster from another thread)

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                                noble
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                                no offense taken belH, i feel sorry for you, really... -[

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                                  belH
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                                  no offense taken belH, i feel sorry for you, really... -[

                                  ;D

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                                    belH
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                                    Peace, my interpretation is not based on Hadith...It based on word by word translation.

                                    Question, if God revealed to us the punishments of any crime, in your understanding, what are the revealed punishments for

                                    Killing
                                    Stealing
                                    Zina

                                    (sorry about the typo... ;D)

                                    I will answer for Nabstr

                                    Killing punishment is Death
                                    Stealing is Cut-Off hands
                                    Zina is 100 lashes

                                    There is no mentioning for Jail time in the Quran as a Punishment. If this is true, then what is the punishment for Thief? what is a Good punishment for Medoff who stole 50 Billion dollars?
                                    Is it to get him a Job as Free.minds.org doctrine calls for????? What kind of Job that would make him make 50 Billion dollars? Is this the Joke of the century?

                                    ps - Yosemite, ask BelH, what happens if he steals another 50 billion and when his remaining hand is cut off and he has no more hands left, ask him what he will do if he steals another 50 billion. Then watch the reply. Enjoy.

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                                      Ahmad_Bilal
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                                      What kind of Job that would make him make 50 Billion dollars? Is this the Joke of the century?

                                      He's definately got a point here. There's no job a person can get to repay a stolen 50 billion dollars, no matter how hard or how long they work. So, perhaps working to repay the money isn't the only alternative. There has to be another just punishment for this crime too, other than just getting a job...

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                                        noble
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                                        Peace belH
                                        and i believe you need help, like the psychiatric kind...

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                                          noble
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                                          Peace belH
                                          Well in China, he would have been put to death for embezzling such an amount... ;D

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