the Inner-self, Hell, Heaven and Death.

[Cerberus]

This subject is related to the post of Man Of Faith originally in this thread in response to some of my questions.

This is an analysis(somehow) of my " classic sometimes sectarian influenced" view of Inner-self/hell/heaven/death and Man Of Faith's view

I also recommend reading it all before attempting to answer any part of it.

Here is the post

Quote from Cerberus on September 06, 2016, 112209 PM
We might agree that Quran, like previous Scriptures, is describing the "Way" to "earning a reward".
That is one way of seeing it. Well, Quran does describe a way.
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Is the detachment from the body (in this world) the reward ?
If to keep it simple, yes. In Jehennom you have a body whereas in "Heaven" you have not.

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It seems that it could easily (the detachment from the body or bodily as you call it) be a consequence of following the Way ?
Red "Attachment to bodily" is not really I who call it but that is what the term Jehennom means. It is a kind of descriptive term, could be regarded as a "code name", which means "External Attachment Integrity Thereof", i.e. the word in morphology reads it out loud descriptively what it means. The language functions the same when you use the letter 'heh' as personal pronoun, i.e. when you say who/which. The word Jehennom uses the root Jiin-Nun-(Nun) which you are probably familiar with, but which word does not mean invisible but one's covering. Al-Jinn is general for everything which covers, i.e. the bodily.

If one does follow the taught way of abstention from the bodily the result is detachment. You reap what you have sown. This is because you become absolute, much which is a remnant teaching in Hinduism as a fragment of truth in religion, you become al-rahman al-raheem (totally complete), and in Hinduism the condition is called Brahman ironically enough. The underlying purpose in your life is to nurture your spirit which is under delusion from the body preventing it from growing in being. Your person is like a seed needing to be cultivated inside a foreign body under the delusion that you have identity with it. That seed is your true person whereas the body is your false identity, it was made to you as a contradiction on Earth. Quran does frequently speak of Jinn and Naas and it does not refer to invisible beings versus humans but one and the same person who has a "body and spirit/soul". This is where you are required to make a clear separation between the bodily and the spiritual, much like our friend Jesus is seen teaching in the Biblical Gospels. If you can do that you can also see God for what God is, i.e. God's nature. "God" is not at all what most Abrahamic faith followers think, even Christians it seems.

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Is accomplishing that "detachment" what you may call "Heaven" "Jannah" ? And Falling into the "bodily" (temptations,wordly desire etc) what you may call Hell "Jahannam" ?
Well rounded up.

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What about death ? after death ?
Death is just part of the trickery. If you are not ready you will transfer your Nafs (seed or "Integrity Forth Spirit&quot into another body with a new bodily identity so you will live a fate which is recurring. You also transfer the progress of your Nafs and this remains the same and you are not unjustly losing any progress. If you have not progressed at all but turned in the negative direction into darkness this is also evident in who you will be thereafter. This is also a reason for the state of the Earth today 2016 with many mentally unstable people, fights, because they have degraded spirits malfunctioning. They are not more than beasts being victims of the body's instinct, and we know that "Satan is of the Al-Jinn". The weaker the spirit the heavier is the "incursion" of the bodily, and could be seen as animalistic behavior, and we know that the human's body is a primate.

This could most likely be connected to Jesus' saying "let the dead bury their dead" referring cryptically to that dead or alive in the flesh with no spirit still signifies lifelessness. His saying is very sarcastic but yet true, he meant to come about blunt in order to shock his audience into reflection. This was his methodology and the pedagogy works very well as you reach the subjects psychologically. Not all tolerated his method of teaching though so he was eventually persecuted, but mostly because his teachings were deemed blasphemous towards their perception of "God", i.e. when he clearly called himself in association with "God". Actually he taught what I am teaching in this forum generating mixed responses. People could be regarded as more advanced and educated than his audience 2000 years ago, but despite this many do not follow my further expanded intricacy making the subject more elaborate and advanced revealing the absolute nature. But most people did not understand Jesus 2000 years ago but made him the exclusive "son of God" and then worshiped exclusively while he himself said that "you can all be like me, children of the abbu", and this delusion lives on still in this millennium while you would expect that people were reevaluating what he said in a new light.

So strengthen the Being by separating from that which does not strengthen but weakens the Being. Soundness is a good way, logic is a linguistically adapted form of soundness, and the word Se-la-ma means that something is "spirit-like" as in whole/sound. Be aware of when Satan is causing you to various reactions in life and prevent those undesired reactions. The body should not affect any of your decisions but they should stem from pure logic. Emotions are driven by the instinct so you must learn that they are part of your negative identity. Heck you should not even become angry even if this reaction is hard to control when under provocation, particularly from lifeless people if you are spiritually ascended and struggle with new hurdles. Anger is a sin and such must be cleansed (sin in "God"'s faith's perspective is everything which is not constructive and has no practical use). It might sound extremist, but copulation intercourse has no practical use except exclusively pleasing the body besides the reproduction of new bodies in this world.

This same what I teach above Jesus taught 2000 years ago in saying "Moses said that you should not kill, but I say that you should not even be angry with your brother". I taught you that anger is of the instinct and anger further leads to possible violence by not resisting provocation by other. Jesus' teachings as well as the Mosaic law may be using the Semitic word "qatal" so the teaching might not be so colorful but the original law said "Do not go offensively/defeating", but since qatal was twisted into meaning kill later so then the law also became changed. So the escalation is probably from being angry towards wishing to defeat your subject. When you become angry you tend to wish to defeat others to a greater extent. But before you become angry the first warning signal is that you are emotionally affected by what has been said or acted and you have no resistance to the ignorance and misbehavior of people. Then after you are emotionally affected a sign is that the previously pale/uncolored face begins to become red if you let it escalate. You begin to enter a preparation to enter combat. In children who have more difficulties controlling themselves due to immaturity this can quickly be seen if a child is being bullied because they give in to Satan more quickly. Also when there is no one who they perceive as an authority (e.g. adults) they will show distinctly egotistical indications among other children. Much of this is settled through discipline, but the innate want is still inside the child, and this want continuous in adult age even if we normally employ decently non-violent ways as this is how we were reared.

But in religiously brainwashed people this might exclude infidels and that you can exploit weak people. In humans there is an instinct which is "to dominate" and when you begin to release reward hormones for the thrill of being in charge you might employ dubious methods exploiting others, and you might prefer to do the least among your "servants". You can see signs of Satan in a multitude of people all around you. I am sure you can recall by reflection countless times you have been affected by Satan yourself. If you cannot I am sure you are insincere or you are a miraculous exception. Because if you had been ready previously you would not be here in this world now and the ultimate finishing does seldom occur except in older age.

You might be hearing more.

Be well
Amenuel

Now that was the post that this post is going to be based on. So put your seat belt on.

Is the detachment from the body (in this world) the reward ?

If to keep it simple, yes. In Jehennom you have a body whereas in "Heaven" you have not.

Is accomplishing that "detachment" what you may call "Heaven" "Jannah" ? And Falling into the "bodily" (temptations,wordly desire etc) what you may call Hell "Jahannam" ?
Well rounded up.

Looking at these two statements.Based on the state of "inner-self" 'Nafs' do you reach Jannah/Jahanam as a place(first quote) or as a state of "being" (2nd quote) ?

Death is just part of the trickery. If you are not ready you will transfer your Nafs

First thing that draw my attention Nafs or more commonly known as "inner-self". Quran speaks of the "Nafs" very often in such
And Allah would not ever have wronged them, but they were wronging (themselves) their 'Nafs'.

Although classical views of nafs simply refer it to "yourself" as "whatever you think you are" probably why there are some misconceptions out there.

While making this post I found this Sufi website that highlighted the three state of "Nafs" mentioned in the Quran

• The commanding soul "Al-Ammara" (Nafs that commands to 'wrong/evil' )as in
And I do not acquit myself. Indeed, the "soul" 'Nafs' is a persistent enjoiner of evil, except those upon which my Lord has mercy. Indeed, my Lord is Forgiving and Merciful." 1253

Imam Baghawi (ra) says regarding the Nafs al-Ammara
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The Nafs al-Ammara has Shaytan as its ally. He promises it great rewards and gains, but casts falsehood into it. He invites it and entices the soul to do evil. He leads it on with hope after hope and presents falsehood to the soul in a form that it will accept and admire.

• Nafs al-Lawwama (The Self-Accusing Soul )as in
Nay! I swear by the self-accusing "soul" 'Nafs'. 752

Ibn al-Qayyim says regarding Nafs al-Lawwama
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It has been said that the Nafs al-Lawwama is the one, which cannot rest in any one state. It often changes, remembers and forgets, submits and evades, loves and hates, rejoices and become sad, accepts and rejects, obeys and rebels. Nafs al-Lawwama is also the Nafs of the believer?.It has also been mentioned that the Nafs blames itself on the Day of Qiyamah - for every one blames himself for his actions, either his bad deeds, if he was one who had many wrong actions, or for his shortcomings, if he was one who did good deeds. All of this is accurate.

• Nafs al-Mutma?inna (The Soul at Peace) as in
O "soul" 'Nafs' "that art at rest"(confident,peaceful,..) Return to your Lord, well-pleased (with him), well-pleasing (Him), So enter among My servants, And enter into My garden. 8927-30

Imam Baghawi (ra) says regarding the Nafs al-Mutma'inna
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The Nafs al-Mutma`inna has an angel to help it, who assists and guides it. The angel casts good into the Nafs so that it desires what is good and is aware of the excellence of good actions. The angel also keeps the self away from wrong action and shows it the ugliness of bad deeds. All in all, whatever is for Allah and by him, always comes from the soul which is at peace.

Now this being said, I would like you to relate to the three state of "Nafs" mentioned above to what you said specially regarding the following concept

If you are not ready you will transfer your Nafs (seed or "Integrity Forth Spirit&quot into another body with a new bodily identity so you will live a fate which is recurring. You also transfer the progress of your Nafs and this remains the same and you are not unjustly losing any progress.

Now when I mentioned death and after death, I was referring to it as in the "classical" view i.e the end of it i.e you die, and you wake up in a scary place with everyone around waiting for your judgement. However it seems that you consider death merely a change of body, i.e not related to the "End" (Judgement day) which is interesting but also needs some backing up (Preferably from the Scripture). But in the following I'll be using "death" as you expressed it i.e the change of body.

It implies that, there has to be a limited number of "Nafs" (souls) created by God (initially ? or still in progress?) and at the death of someone, the soul is taken, to be put in another body in another place on earth in another time. Now this also implies that between the stage of dying and to be given another body, the souls are somewhere, since the rate of death isn't the same as the rate of birth therefore there has to be some souls wondering around probably "unconscious" of their surrounding. However this also need some backing up. (preferably from the Scripture)

Speaking of the scripture, these verses come to my mind

And say not of those who are killed "qatel" in the Way of Allah, "They are dead." Nay, they are living, but you perceive (it) not. 2154

Thou makest the night to pass into the day and Thou makest the day to pass into the night, and Thou bringest forth the living from the dead and Thou bringest forth the dead from the living, and Thou givest sustenance to whom Thou pleasest without measure. 327

and many other occurences of the same "bringing the living out of the dead.."

It's seems that the "death" you spoke about and the "death" that the Quran speaks of in many occurences never meant "the end". So if you can link your view to such verses, it would make much more sense.

This could most likely be connected to Jesus' saying "let the dead bury their dead" referring cryptically to that dead or alive in the flesh with no spirit still signifies lifelessness.

Referring to the spiritual dead as dead is reasonable and right. No problem here.

Surely you do not make the dead to hear, and you do not make the deaf to hear the call when they go back retreating. 2780

However since I highlighted the difference between the "death" you spoke about and the classical view of death, I'd like to have your opinion on Judgement day as well.

I think these are the most parts I found intriguing in what you said.

And yes this is a long post, so anyone willing to participate should precise which part he/she is discussing for the sake of efficiency and clarity.

[Cerberus]

Added some missing quotations... muscle

[Man_of_Faith]

I answered this thread, but it appears my post is not here.

[Cerberus]

I answered this thread, but it appears my post is not here.

Must be some problem either coming from you when you tried to submit the post or the server processing your request...either way it's ok no rush. Also I recommend backing up your answers (specially if you put efforts on them) you never know what could go wrong.

[Man_of_Faith]

Must be some problem either coming from you when you tried to submit the post or the server processing your request...either way it's ok no rush. Also I recommend backing up your answers (specially if you put efforts on them) you never know what could go wrong.

I am sure I saw the post after it was submitted earlier. I used to backup written messages in the past when I had a really weak internet connection, but these days I do not. The only backup is while I am writing something I every now and then select everything and then copy to have the written data in the system's memory in case something goes wrong.

Anyways, things like this is clearly demoralizing and it has happened before after I wrote something big and then I simply skip writing anything anew when everything failed and disappeared. See if I find the will to make another try.

Be well
Amenuel

[Comrox]

I am sure I saw the post after it was submitted earlier. I used to backup written messages in the past when I had a really weak internet connection, but these days I do not. The only backup is while I am writing something I every now and then select everything and then copy to have the written data in the system's memory in case something goes wrong.

Anyways, things like this is clearly demoralizing and it has happened before after I wrote something big and then I simply skip writing anything anew when everything failed and disappeared. See if I find the will to make another try.

Be well
Amenuel

If I'm writing a long post anywhere, before I submit/post it, I always will quickly copy the entire thing so I have it "saved" in case something goes awry in the submission process.

However if you swear that you saw the post actually posted here earlier, that's really weird and perhaps it is saved somewhere on this site? Message an admin or mod perhaps?

[Man_of_Faith]

I had already written a quite long post in reply to this one, so unfortunately this reply will not be as long.

If to keep it simple, yes. In Jehennom you have a body whereas in "Heaven" you have not.

Well rounded up.

Looking at these two statements.Based on the state of "inner-self" 'Nafs' do you reach Jannah/Jahanam as a place(first quote) or as a state of "being" (2nd quote) ?

Of which are you referring to? Both? You wrote a slash implying the same? If you meant separately, Jannah is not what I would be aiming to be, and Jenneh is a condition in Jehennom, the Jennet are our bodies. Jehennom is the illusion of a location, like a virtual world.

Al-asema (traditionally Heaven) is the destination in which you are ethereal, just listen to the word which implies a void/transparency (the sky). In that you could refer to it more as a state of being than a place because you lack a fixed location and is therefore omnipresent.

First thing that draw my attention Nafs or more commonly known as "inner-self". Quran speaks of the "Nafs" very often in such
Although classical views of nafs simply refer it to "yourself" as "whatever you think you are" probably why there are some misconceptions out there.

Your soul is the Nafs, it is used to refer to your self, but only your true self which does not include the identity which the body gives you. So your real person is the Nafs, and Nafs means morphologically "Integrity Forth Spirit" which in that sounds very much like a seed that has to develop. Nafs comes from this root with many alleged definitions of which I will make some relevant ones bold

Nun-Fa-Siin = was or became high in estimation, of high account or excellent, highly prized/precious/valuable and therefore desired with much emulation or much request, desired, it became loved or highly esteemed, console, cheer, envy.
Was or became avaricious/tenacious/niggardly of it because of its being in high estimation or excellent, little to much good.
Brought forth (e.g. gave birth to a child), menstruated, blood.
Clear away grief/anxiety/sorrow, ease/relieve, delay.
Breath, gust, drew breath, sigh, spoke long (due to regular intake of breath), become extended/long/increased, ability.
Soul/spirit, the vital principle, intellect/reason/mind, inner desire or feeling, knowledge, pride, self-magnification, a state where there is ample scope for action, 'willingly' when used as adverb, nafs - soul of discrimination (mental) and ruh - soul of breath (physical), oneself/itself, whole, essential constituent, reality, sometimes ghayb and nafs are synonymous, a person/being/individual, quantity, man, life, soul + body, life-blood, body, contention/thought/face/substance, heart, stomach, gulp, drought.
Brother or co-partner in faith/religion/relationship.
Wide space, distance, width.
Greatness, nobility, glory, scarcity, absoluteness, unseen, hidden reality which is beyond human perception, intention, requital, punishment.

Al-Naas is a related word to Nafs and refer to the spiritual. Sometimes it is written together with Jinn, and that is because if you write Al-Jinn wa Al-Naas you refer to body and spirit. One must grow in spirituality to progress the Nafs, but it takes to separate the bodily which could be compared with worthless weeds that choke useful plants, in this case the plant of your Nafs (seed). Note that this was a very brief parable and I am not saying you are a plant. The body is intentionally designed to be corrupting on its subject with its Satan (in science called the instinct), like tailored to deceive. It is like the perfect delusion.

While making this post I found this Sufi website that highlighted the three state of "Nafs" mentioned in the Quran

• The commanding soul "Al-Ammara" (Nafs that commands to 'wrong/evil' )as in

• Nafs al-Lawwama (The Self-Accusing Soul )as in

• Nafs al-Mutma?inna (The Soul at Peace) as in

Now this being said, I would like you to relate to the three state of "Nafs" mentioned above to what you said specially regarding the following concept

Their Nafs' Al-Ammara is when falling prey to Satan, and autonomous drive in the body which causes one to act much like an animal, e.g. seek to dominate, align to a hierarchy, idolize gods or matter, mate with the opposite sex, think like the rest of the pack etc. A person succumbed to this has a very weak Being. It is still one and the same Nafs. The "commands" is yourself that lets you think like a primate. You must remember you are within a body that basically is a primate and your superior spirit makes it relatively advanced, but also dangerous when mixed up with that "neanderthal" and its impulses. I have heard news that North Korea's leader is developing nuclear warheads and this person has very much succumbed to the instinct. By knowing the effects of the blast of a nuclear warhead, it is very unwise to even think of this weapon, but that is what happens when you leave the trigger of a such weapon in the hands of an ape that wishes to protect his territory like a dog, they just give all they can. Their leader is so deluded about dominating that he forgets his people, he is only concerned about his territory.

What was written about the Nafs by these sufi is roughly correct.

"Self-accusing", well it is your soul that comes with its conscience and it mainly happens in someone with a previously developed soul that is strong enough to feel sad for the ignorance of their accompanying body and the miserable life that they live. One cannot just pity themselves but they have to do something about it and be confident (have iman) to make a change.

About that I can refer to my own life, I lived imitating others only about a decade ago and tried to live like others and I became increasingly depressed, and without intending to brag my spirit is very well developed, so I came into a great depression. Eventually I reflected and wondered why I should just not go my own way and shun that which did not make me stable, and then I started to make vast changes in my life. For example, I quit alcohol and I have made decisions not to embrace materialism and I only own objects to use them as tools and I try to only buy what I need. I no longer go to any parties like I did then and I look to myself rather than others. I seek to explicitly be my own character, not having anyone else as a role model, no one. I am my own master and I do what I want, and I do not want anything special either. I have gradually strengthened my Being, which is out ultimate aim. While I may have been shrinking my spirit it is now growing again, and I am more or less at the state of Nafs al-Mutma?inna (The Soul at Peace) that you picked from some sufi source.

Now when I mentioned death and after death, I was referring to it as in the "classical" view i.e the end of it i.e you die, and you wake up in a scary place with everyone around waiting for your judgement. However it seems that you consider death merely a change of body, i.e not related to the "End" (Judgement day) which is interesting but also needs some backing up (Preferably from the Scripture). But in the following I'll be using "death" as you expressed it i.e the change of body.

I cannot refer to a sectarian interpretation of Quran, because it follows the clerical agenda of medieval times.

You live continuously until the Judgment Day and have a change to repent and reform until then. The placement in many bodies has a partial purpose of giving you many chances before it is too late in many different situations, but you also answer to your deeds or misdeeds and how you fare in your life or afterlife is determined by your actions. But your actions of good alone do not determine whether you reach salvation, but you need to also show your distance to the bodily and not commit sins. When you can completely stop committing sins even when put before a test then you are ready.

It implies that, there has to be a limited number of "Nafs" (souls) created by God (initially ? or still in progress?) and at the death of someone, the soul is taken, to be put in another body in another place on earth in another time. Now this also implies that between the stage of dying and to be given another body, the souls are somewhere, since the rate of death isn't the same as the rate of birth therefore there has to be some souls wondering around probably "unconscious" of their surrounding. However this also need some backing up. (preferably from the Scripture)

I answered this in my previous lost post in great detail. All I can say right now is that you must reflect upon what you believe about "time and space". There was a scientist called Albert Einstein who saw that time seemed to be relative. This is also your answer to your little problem with time gaps, in just a few brief sentences.

Speaking of the scripture, these verses come to my mind and many other occurences of the same "bringing the living out of the dead.."

It's seems that the "death" you spoke about and the "death" that the Quran speaks of in many occurences never meant "the end". So if you can link your view to such verses, it would make much more sense.

Not the sectarian interpretation of Quran.

Referring to the spiritual dead as dead is reasonable and right. No problem here.
However since I highlighted the difference between the "death" you spoke about and the classical view of death, I'd like to have your opinion on Judgement day as well.

Judgment Day happens, sooner or later, but I can tell you that we are in the third phase. In the third phase everything in order to help mankind is going to be manifest to the one willing to learn. Everything will be "black on white" for the one willing to learn, even the nature of your Rabb, who is not at all what people often think. Think symbiotically and you find a closer link to your Rabb's nature.

Be well
Amenuel

[Rekkd]

MOF I like your point of view. I understand the logic behind your conclusions and reasoning. I wish I could one day meet you in person to truly know if you are what you claim you are, but that won't happen. Anyways, thx for sharing and hope to see more of your posts

[hansolo]

I have heard news that North Korea's leader is developing nuclear warheads and this person has very much succumbed to the instinct.

Peace Man of Faith. A lot of things you say are beautiful in their Truth. However, I would argue that nuclear warheads are the reason for the superpowers to not start a WW3. And just look at the states who own nuclear weapons. Do they have wars ? As sad and ironic it is, today A nuclear warhead is a guarantee of safety. Do you think if Afghanistan or Chechnya had nuclear military power, Russia would have started wars with those states?

We are still on earth and I guess we have to play by the rules of this Earth. Money, security and etc.

[Man_of_Faith]

Rest assured there will soon be a nuclear winter too given all the madmen in the world.

Nuclear warheads is no guarantee you will be left alone.

But we should not play by the rules here or else we play by the rules of the instinct which is not good.

[hansolo]

Rest assured there will soon be a nuclear winter too given all the madmen in the world.

Nuclear warheads is no guarantee you will be left alone.

But we should not play by the rules here or else we play by the rules of the instinct which is not good.

Im afraid you are most probably right. But of course lets Hope things will turn out differently.

[Man_of_Faith]

The prophecies of Isaiah will surely come true and he prophesied worse times than ever to come to us. I am prepared for the worst, including a scenario that could look like the video game Fallout with a real nuclear winter. I even browsed the web for a radiation suit the other day to begin to store up a survival package. And I am going to start to stock up on dry food soon. Who knows how soon everything will start to go south.

Be well
Amenuel

[hansolo]

The prophecies of Isaiah will surely come true and he prophesied worse times than ever to come to us. I am prepared for the worst, including a scenario that could look like the video game Fallout with a real nuclear winter. I even browsed the web for a radiation suit the other day to begin to store up a survival package. And I am going to start to stock up on dry food soon. Who knows how soon everything will start to go south.

Be well
Amenuel

But Man of Faith, it contradicts with what God tells us in the Quran

Say (O Muhammed), "I am not different from other messengers. I have no idea what will happen to me or to you. I only follow what is revealed to me. I am no more than a profound warner."

Say (O Muhammed), "I have no power to benefit myself, or harm myself. Only what God wills happen to me. If I KNEW THE FUTURE, I would have increased my wealth, and no harm would have afflicted me. I am no more than a warner, and a bearer of good news for those who believe."

If Mohammad is told, that Mohammad is not different from the other messengers, thus he doesn't know the future. How did Isiah see the future ? Who do we trust The God or men ?

[Man_of_Faith]

But Man of Faith, it contradicts with what God tells us in the Quran

Say (O Muhammed), "I am not different from other messengers. I have no idea what will happen to me or to you. I only follow what is revealed to me. I am no more than a profound warner."

Say (O Muhammed), "I have no power to benefit myself, or harm myself. Only what God wills happen to me. If I KNEW THE FUTURE, I would have increased my wealth, and no harm would have afflicted me. I am no more than a warner, and a bearer of good news for those who believe."

If Mohammad is told, that Mohammad is not different from the other messengers, thus he doesn't know the future. How did Isiah see the future ? Who do we trust The God or men ?

It is called prophet for a reason. Isaiah knew the determination of the future. And future prophets were prophesied before they came. What do you think to prophesy means?

[hansolo]

It is called prophet for a reason. Isaiah knew the determination of the future. And future prophets were prophesied before they came. What do you think to prophesy means?

Man of Faith, the words above are from the Quran, and not mine own. I think to have a fair discussion we must first agree on that we both see Quran as the word of God in its entirety. If in these paricular verses God says to the prophet that nor he knows the future nor any prophet knew the future. Do we accept as the Truth or we start spreading our own understanding of the world?

So do we accept everything in the Quran as the Truth, or we only quote things that match our personal beliefs?

"What do you think to prophesy means?", So this question is not to me, but to the author of the Quran

[Man_of_Faith]

Well, I do recognize Quran to be the word of God, but I do not recognize its usually accompanying interpretation.

A prophet is called a prophet because they know things. They can know information about what is to come to pass in another time as well as write that down. The one who wrote Quran got to know a bit of this and that. But a man still in the flesh is prevented in much from knowing the future because they roam separated from their Originator (God), however since an insightful man (prophet) can see through a cleft into the other realm he knows things others do not.

Be well
Amenuel