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where is Allah?

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    Joe_Betik
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    .... you know that after Jesus was baptised in the River Jordan by John the Baptist the Holy Spirit decended upon Him in the form of a dove and a voice from Heaven from the Father said "This is My beloved Son in whom I Am well pleased" after that you know Jesus went to fast for 40 days in the wilderness and was tempted by satan but Jesus used scripture to satan and satan left him alone for a season. satan said if you are the Son of God why don't you throw yourself of this cliff and God will send angels to catch you and you will not hit your foot upon a stone. ....

    salam leanne,

    my apology, but by your account, the guy whom you called jesus was pathetic (sorry for the lack of choice words) - he needed to be baptized by another guy named john in river jordan. common sense dictates that the john guy must be of a higher status than the jesus guy, for it was the john guy who baptized the jesus guy in your story. or, do you get baptized by someone of lesser status?

    btw, just because mary (maryam) was a single mother right from the start (mary was never touched by any man, thus jesus (isha) had no father), stories were created simply to justify human curiosity about biological births. the materialistic instinct of the human mind could not comprehend the fact that jesus (isha) was born without a father. but God can easily simply command, "Be!" And anything that He has in intent becomes. that is the very special attribute of God. He created adam the first man out of nowhere, so what could ever deter Him from creating jesus (isha) without a father. just because jesus (isha) has no father, certain people imagined that God is the father?

    let's follow your line of thought
    since your god had a son, then your god must surely had a wife (since this jesus guy in your story had a father - common sense dictates that a son must have a mother and father, thus the father and mother are the son's parents or husband and wife)? so, yours is a male god, eh? what kind of god is that, a male god that had a wife? was he a real god or simply a human or perhaps a jinn god - a god that had a son and a wife. or even perhaps a god in your imagination?

    but interestingly, the satan in your story has more sense.

    whatever it is, this god in your story cannot be anybody's god but yours. still, others may buy your story, but not me. thanks, but no.

    be in peace
    mohammed noh

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      yeshuahamashiach
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      you have a choice, and at the moment to me it sounds like you have made up your mind. No satan had nothing to do with the Word of God. and if you want to get to know who Jesus really is ask God. I am getting sick of preaching to some people who will not listen to the gospel so all I have to say is Ask God not me. but ask in Jesus name. My God is a God of love and a God of Miracles and He is My Heavenly Father through Christ but I will stop there because there is no point in throwing perl before swine.

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        Joe_Betik
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        leanne,

        fftopic

        this forum is called free-minds, lest you didn't notice. free-minds is a place to inform, to share and to discuss, thus everything beyond is not welcome.

        but, "I am getting sick of preaching to some people who will not listen to the gospel...," said you. but that's your problem, for you have breached the unwritten rule of free-minds. and as you have posted in a different thread ('god&#039, "you shall deserve what you sow". true isn't it?

        pearl or swine is merely a matter of perception, and in a little while (perhaps after college) you will see both in a different light. perceptions matters not, for the only perception i care is God's. thus, take it easy, and be always at peace with yourself.

        peace
        mohammed noh

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          yeshuahamashiach
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          yea free minds I can see that. ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???. Maybe this site is not for me. but it has been good chating to you. tata

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            MUNZIR_ALI
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            yea free minds I can see that. ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???. Maybe this site is not for me. but it has been good chating to you. tata

            Are you still here?

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              Rev_John
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              Are you still here?

              No I think she left some weeks ago

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                MUNZIR_ALI
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                No I think she left some weeks ago

                i really miss her. (excluding the rude comments)

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                  MOST PEOPLE BELIEVE ALLAH IS IN HEAVEN
                  NO IT IS NOT, BEACAUSE AS IT IS NARATED IN THE QURAN (ALLAH IS CLOSER TO US THAN THE VEIN IN OUR NECK)
                  ALLAH IS EVERY WHERE
                  ALLAHU ALAMU

                  No no, that is because most people will be able to see the god in heaven.

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                    Ahmad_Bilal
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                    No no, that is because most people will be able to see the god in heaven.

                    Most people will "see" Him in heaven? -\ How will this be possible, since Allah has no physical form?

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                      MUNZIR_ALI
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                      Most people will "see" Him in heaven? -\ How will this be possible, since Allah has no physical form?

                      Good question. hmm

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                        It just reminded me of something. I remember either hearing on tv or from my mother that in heaven the greatest pleasure would be to see God's face and He will show it to those who make it. I believed it then but I don't remember it being backed up by Quranic evidence, plus the idea that God has a face is just... I don't know what to say!

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                          MUNZIR_ALI
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                          It just reminded me of something. I remember either hearing on tv or from my mother that in heaven the greatest pleasure would be to see God's face and He will show it to those who make it. I believed it then but I don't remember it being backed up by Quranic evidence, plus the idea that God has a face is just... I don't know what to say!

                          His face? WOW! They must be kidding.

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                            unknownuser
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                            It just reminded me of something. I remember either hearing on tv or from my mother that in heaven the greatest pleasure would be to see God's face and He will show it to those who make it. I believed it then but I don't remember it being backed up by Quranic evidence, plus the idea that God has a face is just... I don't know what to say!

                            so you don't believe that we Muslims will see God (face to face) in Jannah?

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                              Ahmad_Bilal
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                              so you don't believe that we Muslims will see God (face to face) in Jannah?

                              The Qur'aan describes God as omnipresent. An omnipresent being can't be confined to one place at any one time. No physical being can be omniscient or omnipresent (all places at all times), which means that God is not physical. Therefore, seeing God's "face" at any given point in time is illogical.

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                                MUNZIR_ALI
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                                so you don't believe that we Muslims will see God (face to face) in Jannah?

                                How can we see GOD face to face when HE has no physical form.

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                                  Rev_John
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                                  How can we see GOD face to face when HE has no physical form.

                                  A very good point

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                                    How can we see GOD face to face when HE has no physical form.

                                    How you know he has no physical form?????????

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                                      MUNZIR_ALI
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                                      How you know he has no physical form?????????

                                      This is the answer.

                                      The Qur'aan describes God as omnipresent. An omnipresent being can't be confined to one place at any one time. No physical being can be omniscient or omnipresent (all places at all times), which means that God is not physical. Therefore, seeing God's "face" at any given point in time is illogical.

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                                        afridi220
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                                        This is the answer.

                                        Ahmed & Belh have special understanding.

                                        Can you please explan the above ayat,

                                        And the angels will be on its sides, and eight angels will, that Day, bear the Throne of your Lord above them. (Quran 6917)

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                                          MUNZIR_ALI
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                                          Ahmed & Belh have special understanding.

                                          Can you please explan the above ayat,

                                          And the angels will be on its sides, and eight angels will, that Day, bear the Throne of your Lord above them. (Quran 6917)

                                          Do you seriously take the literal meaning? )

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