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where is Allah?

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    MUNZIR_ALI
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    It just reminded me of something. I remember either hearing on tv or from my mother that in heaven the greatest pleasure would be to see God's face and He will show it to those who make it. I believed it then but I don't remember it being backed up by Quranic evidence, plus the idea that God has a face is just... I don't know what to say!

    His face? WOW! They must be kidding.

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      It just reminded me of something. I remember either hearing on tv or from my mother that in heaven the greatest pleasure would be to see God's face and He will show it to those who make it. I believed it then but I don't remember it being backed up by Quranic evidence, plus the idea that God has a face is just... I don't know what to say!

      so you don't believe that we Muslims will see God (face to face) in Jannah?

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        so you don't believe that we Muslims will see God (face to face) in Jannah?

        The Qur'aan describes God as omnipresent. An omnipresent being can't be confined to one place at any one time. No physical being can be omniscient or omnipresent (all places at all times), which means that God is not physical. Therefore, seeing God's "face" at any given point in time is illogical.

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          MUNZIR_ALI
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          so you don't believe that we Muslims will see God (face to face) in Jannah?

          How can we see GOD face to face when HE has no physical form.

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            Rev_John
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            How can we see GOD face to face when HE has no physical form.

            A very good point

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              How can we see GOD face to face when HE has no physical form.

              How you know he has no physical form?????????

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                MUNZIR_ALI
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                How you know he has no physical form?????????

                This is the answer.

                The Qur'aan describes God as omnipresent. An omnipresent being can't be confined to one place at any one time. No physical being can be omniscient or omnipresent (all places at all times), which means that God is not physical. Therefore, seeing God's "face" at any given point in time is illogical.

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                  This is the answer.

                  Ahmed & Belh have special understanding.

                  Can you please explan the above ayat,

                  And the angels will be on its sides, and eight angels will, that Day, bear the Throne of your Lord above them. (Quran 6917)

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                    MUNZIR_ALI
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                    Ahmed & Belh have special understanding.

                    Can you please explan the above ayat,

                    And the angels will be on its sides, and eight angels will, that Day, bear the Throne of your Lord above them. (Quran 6917)

                    Do you seriously take the literal meaning? )

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                      Do you seriously take the literal meaning? )

                      Then how u explain it

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                        Rami
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                        Do you seriously take the literal meaning? )

                        If you didn't take the literal meaning so the Quran is simply a crooked book. The verse is stating a fact. What does eight mean? What is the metaphorical significance of giving these details???

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                          Rev_John
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                          How you know he has no physical form?????????

                          That is something we cannot know until the day we meet God. But I "believe" he has no physical form

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                            afridi220
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                            That is something we cannot know until the day we meet God. But I "believe" he has no physical form

                            Your belief do not count check out this ayat. (Quran 6917)

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                              And the angels will be on its sides, and eight angels will, that Day, bear the Throne of your Lord above them. (Quran 6917)

                              The word "thamaniyah"/eight is mentioned in this verse, but where does it say "eight angels"?

                              Also, the verse starts off by saying that the angels will be on "its" sides. What is the "it" being referred to? The previous passage says

                              And the heavens will be cleft asunder, so that day it will be frail. (Q. 6916)

                              The angels ("malaykaat"/controllers) will be on the sides of the heavens, not on the sides of God's throne. In this case, what are the "eight" things being referred to, and what is God's "arsh"/throne? Obviously it's not talking about a literal throne, since an omnipresent Being can't sit on a literal throne. So, what is it talking about? Well, a throne is a symbol of power and authority. Maybe you should start there...

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                                Rev_John
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                                Your belief do not count check out this ayat. (Quran 6917)

                                Might not count to you, but they do to me.

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                                  Rev_John
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                                  6917 does not say anything about the physical appearance of God. Bearing the throne above them does not necessarily mean a seat or anything we would recognise.

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                                    6917 does not say anything about the physical appearance of God. Bearing the throne above them does not necessarily mean a seat or anything we would recognise.

                                    Why would He need to sit down anyway? does He get tired?

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                                      Rev_John
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                                      Why would He need to sit down anyway? does He get tired?

                                      rotfl bravo bravo

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                                        Why would He need to sit down anyway? does He get tired?

                                        we do not sit only because we get tired. God doesn't get tired, He does what He pleases, we cannot ask Him why He stands up or sit down.

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                                          Rev_John
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                                          we do not sit only because we get tired. God doesn't get tired, He does what He pleases, we cannot ask Him why He stands up or sit down.

                                          If God has no physical form he/she would not need to sit or stand

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