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where is Allah?

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    afridi220
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    This is the answer.

    Ahmed & Belh have special understanding.

    Can you please explan the above ayat,

    And the angels will be on its sides, and eight angels will, that Day, bear the Throne of your Lord above them. (Quran 6917)

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      MUNZIR_ALI
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      Ahmed & Belh have special understanding.

      Can you please explan the above ayat,

      And the angels will be on its sides, and eight angels will, that Day, bear the Throne of your Lord above them. (Quran 6917)

      Do you seriously take the literal meaning? )

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        afridi220
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        Do you seriously take the literal meaning? )

        Then how u explain it

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          Rami
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          Do you seriously take the literal meaning? )

          If you didn't take the literal meaning so the Quran is simply a crooked book. The verse is stating a fact. What does eight mean? What is the metaphorical significance of giving these details???

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            Rev_John
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            How you know he has no physical form?????????

            That is something we cannot know until the day we meet God. But I "believe" he has no physical form

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              afridi220
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              That is something we cannot know until the day we meet God. But I "believe" he has no physical form

              Your belief do not count check out this ayat. (Quran 6917)

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                Ahmad_Bilal
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                And the angels will be on its sides, and eight angels will, that Day, bear the Throne of your Lord above them. (Quran 6917)

                The word "thamaniyah"/eight is mentioned in this verse, but where does it say "eight angels"?

                Also, the verse starts off by saying that the angels will be on "its" sides. What is the "it" being referred to? The previous passage says

                And the heavens will be cleft asunder, so that day it will be frail. (Q. 6916)

                The angels ("malaykaat"/controllers) will be on the sides of the heavens, not on the sides of God's throne. In this case, what are the "eight" things being referred to, and what is God's "arsh"/throne? Obviously it's not talking about a literal throne, since an omnipresent Being can't sit on a literal throne. So, what is it talking about? Well, a throne is a symbol of power and authority. Maybe you should start there...

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                  Rev_John
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                  Your belief do not count check out this ayat. (Quran 6917)

                  Might not count to you, but they do to me.

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                    6917 does not say anything about the physical appearance of God. Bearing the throne above them does not necessarily mean a seat or anything we would recognise.

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                      6917 does not say anything about the physical appearance of God. Bearing the throne above them does not necessarily mean a seat or anything we would recognise.

                      Why would He need to sit down anyway? does He get tired?

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                        Why would He need to sit down anyway? does He get tired?

                        rotfl bravo bravo

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                          Why would He need to sit down anyway? does He get tired?

                          we do not sit only because we get tired. God doesn't get tired, He does what He pleases, we cannot ask Him why He stands up or sit down.

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                            Rev_John
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                            we do not sit only because we get tired. God doesn't get tired, He does what He pleases, we cannot ask Him why He stands up or sit down.

                            If God has no physical form he/she would not need to sit or stand

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                              If God has no physical form he/she would not need to sit or stand

                              God has no physical form? o how do you know that? Do you believe we are gonna see God in paradise? yay

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                                nsws1988
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                                God has no physical form? o how do you know that? Do you believe we are gonna see God in paradise? yay

                                You remind me of Leanne when she's excited about Jesus's return yippiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie!!!! yay

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                                  Rev_John
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                                  You remind me of Leanne when she's excited about Jesus's return yippiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie!!!! yay

                                  rotfl rotfl Yes it does.

                                  Paradise? What is your definition of paradise?

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                                    You remind me of Leanne when she's excited about Jesus's return yippiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie!!!! yay

                                    so you don't even believe that?

                                    rotfl rotfl Yes it does.

                                    Paradise? What is your definition of paradise?

                                    fftopic

                                    back to the topic

                                    Where is Allah? ???

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                                      Where is Allah? ???

                                      And We have created man and We know what his soul whispers to him, and We are closer to him than his jugular vein - 5016

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                                        Ahmad_Bilal
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                                        Do you believe we are gonna see God in paradise?

                                        Where does the Qur'aan say that we will literally "see" God in jannah? The scripture clearly says

                                        Vision cannot reach Him, but His reach is over all vision... (Q. 6103)

                                        Check out Q. 7143, where Moses tried to "see" God. Do you remember what happened to him? Why do you think it will be any different for us in jannah? God makes it clear also that nothing is like, or even comparable to, Him at all (see Q. 4211; 1124). The "paradise" is a progression from this life, and the scriptures say that we are able to experience jannah in this life. So, why can't we "see" God in this life?

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                                          MUNZIR_ALI
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                                          You remind me of Leanne when she's excited about Jesus's return yippiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie!!!! yay

                                          rotfl that was rotfl

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