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where is Allah?

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    Ahmad_Bilal
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    And the angels will be on its sides, and eight angels will, that Day, bear the Throne of your Lord above them. (Quran 6917)

    The word "thamaniyah"/eight is mentioned in this verse, but where does it say "eight angels"?

    Also, the verse starts off by saying that the angels will be on "its" sides. What is the "it" being referred to? The previous passage says

    And the heavens will be cleft asunder, so that day it will be frail. (Q. 6916)

    The angels ("malaykaat"/controllers) will be on the sides of the heavens, not on the sides of God's throne. In this case, what are the "eight" things being referred to, and what is God's "arsh"/throne? Obviously it's not talking about a literal throne, since an omnipresent Being can't sit on a literal throne. So, what is it talking about? Well, a throne is a symbol of power and authority. Maybe you should start there...

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      Your belief do not count check out this ayat. (Quran 6917)

      Might not count to you, but they do to me.

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        6917 does not say anything about the physical appearance of God. Bearing the throne above them does not necessarily mean a seat or anything we would recognise.

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          6917 does not say anything about the physical appearance of God. Bearing the throne above them does not necessarily mean a seat or anything we would recognise.

          Why would He need to sit down anyway? does He get tired?

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            Why would He need to sit down anyway? does He get tired?

            rotfl bravo bravo

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              Why would He need to sit down anyway? does He get tired?

              we do not sit only because we get tired. God doesn't get tired, He does what He pleases, we cannot ask Him why He stands up or sit down.

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                we do not sit only because we get tired. God doesn't get tired, He does what He pleases, we cannot ask Him why He stands up or sit down.

                If God has no physical form he/she would not need to sit or stand

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                  If God has no physical form he/she would not need to sit or stand

                  God has no physical form? o how do you know that? Do you believe we are gonna see God in paradise? yay

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                    nsws1988
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                    God has no physical form? o how do you know that? Do you believe we are gonna see God in paradise? yay

                    You remind me of Leanne when she's excited about Jesus's return yippiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie!!!! yay

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                      You remind me of Leanne when she's excited about Jesus's return yippiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie!!!! yay

                      rotfl rotfl Yes it does.

                      Paradise? What is your definition of paradise?

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                        You remind me of Leanne when she's excited about Jesus's return yippiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie!!!! yay

                        so you don't even believe that?

                        rotfl rotfl Yes it does.

                        Paradise? What is your definition of paradise?

                        fftopic

                        back to the topic

                        Where is Allah? ???

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                          Where is Allah? ???

                          And We have created man and We know what his soul whispers to him, and We are closer to him than his jugular vein - 5016

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                            Ahmad_Bilal
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                            Do you believe we are gonna see God in paradise?

                            Where does the Qur'aan say that we will literally "see" God in jannah? The scripture clearly says

                            Vision cannot reach Him, but His reach is over all vision... (Q. 6103)

                            Check out Q. 7143, where Moses tried to "see" God. Do you remember what happened to him? Why do you think it will be any different for us in jannah? God makes it clear also that nothing is like, or even comparable to, Him at all (see Q. 4211; 1124). The "paradise" is a progression from this life, and the scriptures say that we are able to experience jannah in this life. So, why can't we "see" God in this life?

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                              MUNZIR_ALI
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                              You remind me of Leanne when she's excited about Jesus's return yippiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie!!!! yay

                              rotfl that was rotfl

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                                Most people will "see" Him in heaven? -\ How will this be possible, since Allah has no physical form?

                                How do you see that which is of no thing?

                                http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKbeLfhHvPY

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                                  Peace

                                  How will this be possible, since Allah has no physical form?

                                  Will we have physical form at this point in time?

                                  Joe

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                                    Ahmad_Bilal
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                                    Peace,

                                    Will we have physical form at this point in time?

                                    Do you think Allah has a physical form? I'm beginning to think He does, maybe even a representation...

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                                      MUNZIR_ALI
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                                      Peace,

                                      Do you think Allah has a physical form? I'm beginning to think He does, maybe even a representation...

                                      o o

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                                        Peace,

                                        Do you think Allah has a physical form? I'm beginning to think He does, maybe even a representation...

                                        I tend to think that, as the supreme being, God can appear to be in any form he wishes

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                                          MUNZIR_ALI
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                                          I tend to think that, as the supreme being, God can appear to be in any form he wishes

                                          But HE does not need to anyway. D

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