You think deleting 2 verses is bad enough...
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stop posting off-topic posts please!
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then stop going off-topic
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P.s. Just the last one
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Hey we are discussing code 19. Is that offtopic? )
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Hey we are discussing code 19. Is that offtopic? )
and proofing how Quran is fully protected which directly relates to topic removing so many verses. They can not remove their love to their parent belief and yet not ready to examine and witness the truth. They follow their clergies and their leader instead of God and cover up their idolization by calling themselves Muslim hence they are not. When they become speechless with showing clear proof they run away and try to interrupt the discussions like their teachers.
Accepting Miracle could be end to many things of their belonging from dress code to job and position , to deleting all their conjuncture, to loosing idol worshiper friends and family and many other thing. Noy many of them have gut to do so and they do only lip service and do not believe that God is supporting any believer.
They have no choice unless screaming Off Topic but they can not mislead truth seekers as they are.
Peace )
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and proofing how Quran is fully protected which directly relates to topic removing so many verses. They can not remove their love to their parent belief and yet not ready to examine and witness the truth. They follow their clergies and their leader instead of God and cover up their idolization by calling themselves Muslim hence they are not. When they become speechless with showing clear proof they run away and try to interrupt the discussions like their teachers.
Accepting Miracle could be end to many things of their belonging from dress code to job and position , to deleting all their conjuncture, to loosing idol worshiper friends and family and many other thing. Noy many of them have gut to do so and they do only lip service and do not believe that God is supporting any believer.
They have no choice unless screaming Off Topic but they can not mislead truth seekers as they are.
Peace )
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and proofing how Quran is fully protected which directly relates to topic removing so many verses. They can not remove their love to their parent belief and yet not ready to examine and witness the truth. They follow their clergies and their leader instead of God and cover up their idolization by calling themselves Muslim hence they are not. When they become speechless with showing clear proof they run away and try to interrupt the discussions like their teachers.
Accepting Miracle could be end to many things of their belonging from dress code to job and position , to deleting all their conjuncture, to loosing idol worshiper friends and family and many other thing. Noy many of them have gut to do so and they do only lip service and do not believe that God is supporting any believer.
They have no choice unless screaming Off Topic but they can not mislead truth seekers as they are.
Peace  
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If you wish to discuss code 19 there is a whole section to discuss it in or you can message Munzir directly. You have no right to accuse anyone of idolisation. I have already noticed you doing it to 2 other members of this forum and find it disrespectful.
No back to the main topic.
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No back to the main topic.
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You think deleting 2 verses is bad enough...
there is a reason they remove 2 verses code 19. and that, Madame, you don't want to discuss?
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If you wish to discuss code 19 there is a whole section to discuss it in or you can message Munzir directly. You have no right to accuse anyone of idolisation. I have already noticed you doing it to 2 other members of this forum and find it disrespectful.
No back to the main topic.
Peace dear sister )
There is no wonder talking like this and dictating your own idea to tohers where to go what to do. I do not blame you as you have bee raised like this to be instructed all time and do what their parents did. No right to ask so much question and limiting to their own understanding. I have been Shai land and i can see clearly how such dictaorial system which is rooted in family realation now are in power by abusing name of God and Quran force their own people to obey their own rules and laws and go so far that to rape female and male in any by such ugly , barbarian fabricated rules and law.
I do not blame you sister for such criticism when ilooked at you early post e right now to see if i am wrong but i was right you have been raised in Sunni family and you are proud to be called Mohammedans like Cristian for Christ.These forum has moderators and they decide to if my posts is off topic not members. Ofcourse you can complain and if your claim is right then they will move it to Off Topic.
I am not disrespecting any body but telling the truth, Those that reject Miracle such clear and crystal that 14 years old coul understood in few minutes and try to confuse new truth seekers like you to keep 2 fabricated verse by time power greeds to keep themselves as the decedent of Raheem human they are IDOL WORSHIPERS and this a fact that now wee se how whole book digitally reject 2 verses.
Here is the issue is 2 verses and removing more verses by confused ones. And i will be feel guilty and ashamed in day of judgement when i see the truth do not inform others.
I have seen many like you in the middle of struggling transforming from parent belief to reality and truth and is not easy. New belief is like painting, if you want change the paint you have to paint it clear white and start back. I mean you have to forget all learning from parents and teachers and just belive in creation and God and now seek for a divine and protested sign or message for proof for existence of God and then His words too.
The only way for these Hi Tech generation is numbers from 1 t0 9 and if Ali could understand it in few minutes why you can not. ?
Have patience and read the post and information carefully and understand it
Spending little time to witness Greatness of our Creator will save all your life. Do it right now and tell us what you see wrong with proof.
Peace.
Bahman Goharzad -
You could have just written that as a PM but anyway...
First of all, you don't know me (Have we ever spoken before? I don't think so!) You accused me, as well as 2 other people (at least) on this forum when you don't even know us. You have no right to judge! My family aren't even completely strict. They have their views and I have mine. If I wanted to follow them then I won't be here on this site. I'd be sitting in front of the TV listening to a scholar instead of doing my own research. They actually make me sick so why would I follow them? 'you are proud to be called Mohammedans' Where is your proof?? I've never even said the word Mohammedans in my entire life!
Secondly, I'm not sure if you have noticed, but I started a thread a few months ago asking for information on code 19 as I am an open minded person (and, again, do NOT follow my parents blindly). I discussed the topic privately with another member and read through the articles he kindly gave me. I didn't find it very straight forward and a little mind boggling for me. Whether code 19 is real or not doesn't bother me. I am only glad that it lead so many people to believing in God alone and following the Quran.
I started this topic to discuss it, nothing else. That is why I told Munzir to go to the code 19 section. It's not like I forced him to do something he didn't want to do! You could have easily provided Munzir with some links or contacted him personally, yet you ignored my request to keep to the topic.
And what would be the point of me starting a topic then have it removed to the 'off-topic' section.
I wouldn't normally bother responding to false accusations but what you wrote is very offensive considering you don't even know me and considering you made the same accusations to others for so reason. If you want to teach people about code 19 then you might want to speak to them kindly, instead of rudely.
PS Don't worry about me, I'm not struggling. I made the transition in a split second
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Peace dear sister )
There is no wonder talking like this and dictating your own idea to tohers where to go what to do. I do not blame you as you have bee raised like this to be instructed all time and do what their parents did. No right to ask so much question and limiting to their own understanding. I have been Shai land and i can see clearly how such dictaorial system which is rooted in family realation now are in power by abusing name of God and Quran force their own people to obey their own rules and laws and go so far that to rape female and male in any by such ugly , barbarian fabricated rules and law.
I do not blame you sister for such criticism when ilooked at you early post e right now to see if i am wrong but i was right you have been raised in Sunni family and you are proud to be called Mohammedans like Cristian for Christ.These forum has moderators and they decide to if my posts is off topic not members. Ofcourse you can complain and if your claim is right then they will move it to Off Topic.
I am not disrespecting any body but telling the truth, Those that reject Miracle such clear and crystal that 14 years old coul understood in few minutes and try to confuse new truth seekers like you to keep 2 fabricated verse by time power greeds to keep themselves as the decedent of Raheem human they are IDOL WORSHIPERS and this a fact that now wee se how whole book digitally reject 2 verses.
Here is the issue is 2 verses and removing more verses by confused ones. And i will be feel guilty and ashamed in day of judgement when i see the truth do not inform others.
I have seen many like you in the middle of struggling transforming from parent belief to reality and truth and is not easy. New belief is like painting, if you want change the paint you have to paint it clear white and start back. I mean you have to forget all learning from parents and teachers and just belive in creation and God and now seek for a divine and protested sign or message for proof for existence of God and then His words too.
The only way for these Hi Tech generation is numbers from 1 t0 9 and if Ali could understand it in few minutes why you can not. ?
Have patience and read the post and information carefully and understand it
Spending little time to witness Greatness of our Creator will save all your life. Do it right now and tell us what you see wrong with proof.
Peace.
Bahman GoharzadWell I can certainly see a Shi'ite personality in your writings...of course, I don't blame you, you were raised in that environment... whatever
Back to reality, you don't know this person, so stop acting like you're all knowing. Honestly, you don't know crap. Shutting your mouth would be wise. One would think that wisdom is acquired with age; of course, this isn't always true. Exhibit A Bahman. Anyway...
peace man! peace
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If you want to teach people about code 19 then you might want to speak to them kindly, instead of rudely.
As wrote Miracle is not learning but witnessing by understanding it. Is designed like those stars in sky not falling according to their design. Can we deny existence of them because we do not know formula. I see that you are not ready to witness MIRACLE when asking for formula.
Have you had any resposne for such question in your topic?
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598301.msg201036#msg201036
Peace.
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yes it is. there is a whole section for code 19.
Thats what we are discussing here. Removal of 2 verses is directly related to code 19
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Whether code 19 is real or not doesn't bother me. I am only glad that it lead so many people to believing in God alone and following the Quran.
7430-31 states the following
"Over it is nineteen." " We appointed angels to be guardians of Hell, and we assigned THEIR NUMBER (i.e.19) (1) to disturb the disbelievers. (2) to convince the Christians and Jews (that this is a divine scripture), (3) to strengthen the faith of the faithful, (4)to remove all traces of doubt from the hearts of Christians, Jews, as well as the believers, and (5) to expose those who harbor doubt in their hearts, and the disbelievers; they will say," What did God mean by this allegory ?" God thus sends astray whomever He wills, and guides whomever He wills, None knows the soldiers of your Lord except He. THIS IS A REMINDER FOR THE PEOPLE." 7430-31
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I see that you are not ready to witness MIRACLE when asking for formula.
Have you had any resposne for such question in your topic?
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598301.msg201036#msg201036I know whether or not I am ready. Stop pretending that you know me.
Then how am I supposed to understand it and believe in it, by blind faith? No thanks!
I didn't get an answer but a member PM-ed me some links.Thats what we are discussing here. Removal of 2 verses is directly related to code 19
Well that might be part of the title but I didn't mention it in the topic. You are free to mention whatever you like but there is no need for long essays just on code 19. Like I said, there is a whole section on code 19 so links can be given to direct to any useful threads, preventing going off-topic.