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Translations - Another dangerous form of Hadith

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    idriss_III
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    Peace
    What you used is also a first name, so in some context is not foul (it depends on one's mental creativity - Dick Cheney pops to mind)
    What Ayman used is a scientific word, but I never heard someone called by that name... (however, there was a feminist play that had a lot of success called the v***inal monologues ) )

    By the way, does anyone here think "dick" is foul language? If it is so, ayman's "vagina" (his word of course laugh) falls in the same category, no offense to ayman.

    Peace.

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      afridi220
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      Please provide a translation with the verses you've posted. Otherwise it would be no use to guide non arabic speakers. They will have to follow blind faith.

      Please please provide a translation

      Sorry you man the Quran is only for Q student if you wnt to understand quran you must learn Arabic and those Arabs who do not under stan Quran shal reject ithail

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        hope4
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        Selam

        Isn't it the case that even Arabic speakers/readers also differ with each other in their translations (Quran)?

        Peace

        Hope

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          Ahmad_Bilal
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          These fully referenced . Please you translate for those guys who do not understand Arabic.

          As I said, NONE of those verses say that the Qur'aanic manuscripts, translations, or copies can't be changed. If you believe this is the case, then please point out the word(s) that says this plainly... And you're the one quoting those Qur'aanic verses. But now, you want ME to translate them for you? Don't you know what they say? If you know what these are saying, then you do you need a translator? If you know the facts, then post them for EVERYONE to understand, so that your "facts" can either be supported or refuted. That's just common sense, guy...

          If you are not defending RK ,then what are you doing ?
          You are defending persistantly because you think he was right ,while in fact he was a liar.

          I'm not defending Rashad Khalifa. His writings speak for him, and he doesn't need anyone to defend him; he did a good enough job of that by himself. I'm simply pointing out your ignorance of his ideologies, his translation, and his project (code 19). You speak like you know what these things consist of, but all your posts concerning him clearly prove otherwise.

          It is mubaarak to those who are trying to defend the Liars putting aside the Quranic commandments.

          Who put aside Qur'aanic commandments? What are you talking about?

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            MUNZIR_ALI
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            By the way, does anyone here think "dick" is foul language? If it is so, ayman's "vagina" (his word of course laugh) falls in the same category, no offense to ayman.

            Peace.

            it is foul language but hardly. its better not to use.

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              Q_student
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              it is foul language but hardly. its better not to use.

              Only that material comes out what is inside the container.

              It is law of nature.

              Regards

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                MUNZIR_ALI
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                Only that material comes out what is inside the container.

                It is law of nature.

                Regards

                I don't get it.

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                  Q_student
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                  I don't get it.

                  Law of nature is

                  Fragrance <------------ Flower
                  Stink <------------ Filth

                  Regards

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                    MUNZIR_ALI
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                    Law of nature is

                    Fragrance <------------ Flower
                    Stink <------------ Filth

                    Regards

                    oh. ok Thank you peace

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                      hope4
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                      Law of nature is

                      Fragrance <------------ Flower
                      Stink <------------ Filth

                      Regards

                      Not all flowers have a nice fragrance. Check out this one which smell of rotting flesh.
                      http//news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2933066.stm

                      Peace

                      Hope

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                        unknownuser
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                        By the way, does anyone here think "dick" is foul language? If it is so, ayman's "vagina" (his word of course laugh falls in the same category, no offense to ayman.

                        Peace.

                        Forecast

                        Few more posts like that and you are gone for good. yes

                        If you want to stay, follow Munzir Ali's advice.

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                          nsws1988
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                          Peace
                          In Traditional Hadiths ,they concocted a Theme and attributed to Prophet PBUH
                          In Modern Hadiths ,they concoct a theme and attribute it to Allah (Quran) in the name of Translation /inscriptions /www.blablabla.com/code 19 etc
                          A dangerous Trend.

                          Regards

                          How about the hadith in your sig?

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                            Q_student
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                            How about the hadith in your sig?

                            Sister ! It is neither Hadith nor it has any relation to explanation of any Quranic Aya.
                            It is just a saying not related to Quranic Translation.

                            Regards

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                              Prince
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                              Allah said - We have preserved the Quran
                              RK said .No it had been adulterated for 1400 years
                              Did Allah Lie ? Or Quran Lied ?
                              Allah said
                              No one can change His words

                              Rk Said
                              No ,code 19 can change the Quran.
                              Which is superior Allah or Code 19 ?
                              Use your common sense.
                              Regards

                              Please quote quranic references in english to support your position. Posting in arabic will be to no avail as the language we are communicating in now is in english.

                              Oh and common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen as Albert Einstein said so I'd rather use logic, science and quran.

                              PEACE

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                                Meteora
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                                Forecast

                                Few more posts like that and you are gone for good. yes

                                If you want to stay, follow Munzir Ali's advice.

                                And I am supposed to know what is foul language or not in the minds of some (particular whom I'm not sure of) random moderators (who, for a fact do not give a heads up before handing a THIRTY DAY BAN to an unsuspecting member)?

                                To make this easier why don't just the people running the site make censors for all the words they condemn? After all it is they who determine what is foul and what isn't - so why don't the runners just censor all the bad words so no one gets surprise restrictions on their account (hey, it's what I did on my site years ago)? I use the word "dick" for once. Okay, a warning. Didn't know dick was so loathed here. I post another word I think is ok but another warning arrives. Alright, didn't know that one was bad either. I have now one more chance. What's the smart thing to do here? Guess not to post at all, since the forum rules concerning foul language is now 100% arbitrary since no one knows the list of foul words. Solution? Make censors for the so-called foul words, and update it every now and then so whoever DOES get banned, gets banned righteously and without surprises (and they will also somehow have to bypass the censors which I'm sure no one is stupid enough to do. However doing so seems like a PERFECT reason to ban the person, but banning them when not suspecting, since they post NEW words they never knew was "foul" before the warnings for the other words? Whoever thinks this can keep dreaming).

                                The fact I also put that word in my post was because VAGINA was clearly visible on this thread and apparently ISN'T foul language, so how can d*** be? I was asking a damn question - this gets people banned?? rotfl I simply posted and asked if anyone thought "dick" was foul language because vagina was posted by Ayman and no action was taken for this. Doing this gets someone banned? laugh And when will you stop playing backseat mod, Hamsa? One would think you've made a joke of yourself more than enough at this point.

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                                  nsws1988
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                                  And I am supposed to know what is foul language or not in the mind of some random moderators (who, for a fact do not give a heads up before handing a THIRTY DAY BAN to an unsuspecting member)?

                                  The fact I also put that word in my post was because VAGINA was clearly visible and apparently ISN'T foul language, so how can d*** be? I was asking a damn question - this gets people banned?? rotfl I simply posted and asked if anyone thought "dick" was foul language because vagina was posted by Ayman and no action was taken for this. Doing this gets someone banned? laugh And when will you stop playing backseat mod, Hamsa? One would think you've made a joke of yourself more than enough at this point.

                                  'Vagina' is a scientific term, whereas 'd**k' isn't. Also, whether the scientific term is considered foul or not depends on its usage.

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                                    Meteora
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                                    So now something being scientific has any relevance with this. Another thing I just came to know. Also I hope no one thinks "Abraham cutting off part of his penis (the foreskin)" isn't inappropriate content either. After all it is a hadith. A baseless one, but still.

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                                      nsws1988
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                                      So now something being scientific has any relevance with this. Another thing I just came to know. Also I hope no one thinks "Abraham cutting off part of his penis (the foreskin)" isn't inappropriate content either. After all it is a hadith. A baseless one, but still.

                                      There is a difference between using a scientific term and slang. I would be offended if my doctor referred to them in slang term, or if a teacher referred to them in slang when teaching. It is much more professional and respectful not to.

                                      You might not agree with me but remember what you might not find offensive might offend others.

                                      In my opinion, I don't see a problem with the example you just gave.

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                                        MUNZIR_ALI
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                                        You might not agree with me but remember what you might not find offensive might offend others.

                                        In my opinion, I don't see a problem with the example you just gave.

                                        I don't like insults. But I don't see any action taken against them. If anyone who sees D*** as an offensive word without seeing insults, must be really sensitive. jedi

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                                          nsws1988
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                                          I don't like insults. But I don't see any action taken against them. If anyone who sees D*** as an offensive word without seeing insults, must be really sensitive. jedi

                                          I think it's an ugly word and a bad example to show to guests visiting this site.

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