Translations - Another dangerous form of Hadith
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Please provide a translation with the verses you've posted. Otherwise it would be no use to guide non arabic speakers. They will have to follow blind faith.
Please please provide a translation
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Whatever language the Quran may be in, it has to be translated in our minds for it to mean something. We are not the authors of the Quran, we are not God. Therefore God's message is going to translate to us however God wants it to. If we choose to reject what we believe the Quran is telling us (that would be what we think is right, fair, just..) then we're asking for it. This is obvious enough.
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Whatever language the Quran may be in, it has to be translated in our minds for it to mean something. We are not the authors of the Quran, we are not God. Therefore God's message is going to translate to us however God wants it to. If we choose to reject what we believe the Quran is telling us (that would be what we think is right, fair, just..) then we're asking for it. This is obvious enough.
bravo
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Peace
What you used is also a first name, so in some context is not foul (it depends on one's mental creativity - Dick Cheney pops to mind)
What Ayman used is a scientific word, but I never heard someone called by that name... (however, there was a feminist play that had a lot of success called the v***inal monologues ) )By the way, does anyone here think "dick" is foul language? If it is so, ayman's "vagina" (his word of course laugh) falls in the same category, no offense to ayman.
Peace.
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Please provide a translation with the verses you've posted. Otherwise it would be no use to guide non arabic speakers. They will have to follow blind faith.
Please please provide a translation
Sorry you man the Quran is only for Q student if you wnt to understand quran you must learn Arabic and those Arabs who do not under stan Quran shal reject ithail
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These fully referenced . Please you translate for those guys who do not understand Arabic.
As I said, NONE of those verses say that the Qur'aanic manuscripts, translations, or copies can't be changed. If you believe this is the case, then please point out the word(s) that says this plainly... And you're the one quoting those Qur'aanic verses. But now, you want ME to translate them for you? Don't you know what they say? If you know what these are saying, then you do you need a translator? If you know the facts, then post them for EVERYONE to understand, so that your "facts" can either be supported or refuted. That's just common sense, guy...
If you are not defending RK ,then what are you doing ?
You are defending persistantly because you think he was right ,while in fact he was a liar.I'm not defending Rashad Khalifa. His writings speak for him, and he doesn't need anyone to defend him; he did a good enough job of that by himself. I'm simply pointing out your ignorance of his ideologies, his translation, and his project (code 19). You speak like you know what these things consist of, but all your posts concerning him clearly prove otherwise.
It is mubaarak to those who are trying to defend the Liars putting aside the Quranic commandments.
Who put aside Qur'aanic commandments? What are you talking about?
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By the way, does anyone here think "dick" is foul language? If it is so, ayman's "vagina" (his word of course laugh) falls in the same category, no offense to ayman.
Peace.
it is foul language but hardly. its better not to use.
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Only that material comes out what is inside the container.
It is law of nature.
Regards
I don't get it.
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Law of nature is
Fragrance <------------ Flower
Stink <------------ FilthRegards
oh. ok Thank you peace
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By the way, does anyone here think "dick" is foul language? If it is so, ayman's "vagina" (his word of course laugh falls in the same category, no offense to ayman.
Peace.
Forecast
Few more posts like that and you are gone for good. yes
If you want to stay, follow Munzir Ali's advice.
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Peace
In Traditional Hadiths ,they concocted a Theme and attributed to Prophet PBUH
In Modern Hadiths ,they concoct a theme and attribute it to Allah (Quran) in the name of Translation /inscriptions /www.blablabla.com/code 19 etc
A dangerous Trend.Regards
How about the hadith in your sig?
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Allah said - We have preserved the Quran
RK said .No it had been adulterated for 1400 years
Did Allah Lie ? Or Quran Lied ?
Allah said
No one can change His wordsRk Said
No ,code 19 can change the Quran.
Which is superior Allah or Code 19 ?
Use your common sense.
RegardsPlease quote quranic references in english to support your position. Posting in arabic will be to no avail as the language we are communicating in now is in english.
Oh and common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen as Albert Einstein said so I'd rather use logic, science and quran.
PEACE
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Forecast
Few more posts like that and you are gone for good. yes
If you want to stay, follow Munzir Ali's advice.
And I am supposed to know what is foul language or not in the minds of some (particular whom I'm not sure of) random moderators (who, for a fact do not give a heads up before handing a THIRTY DAY BAN to an unsuspecting member)?
To make this easier why don't just the people running the site make censors for all the words they condemn? After all it is they who determine what is foul and what isn't - so why don't the runners just censor all the bad words so no one gets surprise restrictions on their account (hey, it's what I did on my site years ago)? I use the word "dick" for once. Okay, a warning. Didn't know dick was so loathed here. I post another word I think is ok but another warning arrives. Alright, didn't know that one was bad either. I have now one more chance. What's the smart thing to do here? Guess not to post at all, since the forum rules concerning foul language is now 100% arbitrary since no one knows the list of foul words. Solution? Make censors for the so-called foul words, and update it every now and then so whoever DOES get banned, gets banned righteously and without surprises (and they will also somehow have to bypass the censors which I'm sure no one is stupid enough to do. However doing so seems like a PERFECT reason to ban the person, but banning them when not suspecting, since they post NEW words they never knew was "foul" before the warnings for the other words? Whoever thinks this can keep dreaming).
The fact I also put that word in my post was because VAGINA was clearly visible on this thread and apparently ISN'T foul language, so how can d*** be? I was asking a damn question - this gets people banned?? rotfl I simply posted and asked if anyone thought "dick" was foul language because vagina was posted by Ayman and no action was taken for this. Doing this gets someone banned? laugh And when will you stop playing backseat mod, Hamsa? One would think you've made a joke of yourself more than enough at this point.
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And I am supposed to know what is foul language or not in the mind of some random moderators (who, for a fact do not give a heads up before handing a THIRTY DAY BAN to an unsuspecting member)?
The fact I also put that word in my post was because VAGINA was clearly visible and apparently ISN'T foul language, so how can d*** be? I was asking a damn question - this gets people banned?? rotfl I simply posted and asked if anyone thought "dick" was foul language because vagina was posted by Ayman and no action was taken for this. Doing this gets someone banned? laugh And when will you stop playing backseat mod, Hamsa? One would think you've made a joke of yourself more than enough at this point.
'Vagina' is a scientific term, whereas 'd**k' isn't. Also, whether the scientific term is considered foul or not depends on its usage.