Translations - Another dangerous form of Hadith
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Allah said - We have preserved the Quran
RK said .No it had been adulterated for 1400 years
Did Allah Lie ? Or Quran Lied ?
Allah said
No one can change His wordsDude, what are you talking about? Where does the Qur'aan say that nobody can change it?! Stop making things up to mislead others... Yes, Rashad Khalifa said people have been misled in their interpretation of Islaam for around 1300 years. And...? This means absolutely nothing. It's already PROVEN that people have been misled for nearly 1300 years, and this is evident by the numerous inconsistent hadiyths throughout the Islaamic world. People have been practicing the wrong thing for centuries. If anything, Rashad Khalifa is the only person who actually tried to prove that the authentic Qur'aan has been preserved for 1400 years, unlike people like you, who choose to rely on blind faith, thinking that "the Qur'aan is preserved because it says it's preserved". This is BLIND BELIEF, and, according to the scripture, it's a sign of rejection and disbelief.
Rk Said
No ,code 19 can change the Quran.
Which is superior Allah or Code 19 ?
Use your common sense.Please quote Rashad Khalifa on saying that "code 19 can change the Qur'aan". If you can't, then you're a LIAR and you have no credibility. You have already proven yourself to be a falsifier plenty of times on here, and you are only adding to this negative image. Please stop your foolishness...
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Dude, what are you talking about? Where does the Qur'aan say that nobody can change it?! Stop making things up to mislead others... Qur'aan has been preserved for 1400 years, unlike people like you, who choose to rely on blind faith, thinking that "the Qur'aan is preserved because it says it's preserved". This is BLIND BELIEF, and, according to the scripture, it's a sign of rejection and disbelief.
In fact for you RK is more reliable than Allah's Book. Look at the claims of the Great Book.
RK believed in Entire lie .
All this was done for his satanic agenda to declare him a messenger. Again a Fake Claim.
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C'mon, guy. First of all, none of these say that nobody can change the Qur'aanic writings, which we have today. If it did, it would be stating that nobody can change the ORIGINAL Qur'aanic manuscripts, which the Sunnis even consider false. According to the hadiyths, the original Qur'aanic collection, written by Muhammad himself (or dictated to one of his scribes by him) was burned with fire during the time of Uthman.
Secondly, not everyone here can read and write Arabic. Just because SOME people can understand the writings when you post things like this doesn't mean that EVERYBODY can. By repeatedly posting this, even after others have already told you about this issue, you are showing arrogance and rejection, implying that you believe the scripture to be for one group of people, those who understand Arabic language.
In fact for you RK is more reliable than Allah's Book. Look at the claims of the Great Book.
RK believed in Entire lie .
All this was done for his satanic agenda to declare him a messenger. Again a Fake Claim.More lies from you, guy? Now you're saying that I believe that Rashad's appendices are more reliable than the Qur'aan?! Can you quote me on saying this? Please show us all where I said, or even implied, this... As I said, you have NO CREDIBILITY. Please stop spreading lies.
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Secondly, not everyone here can read and write Arabic. Just because SOME people can understand the writings when you post things like this doesn't mean that EVERYBODY can. By repeatedly posting this, even after others have already told you about this issue, you are showing arrogance and rejection, implying that you believe the scripture to be for one group of people, those who understand Arabic language.
These fully referenced . Please you translate for those guys who do not understand Arabic.
More lies from you, guy? Now you're saying that I believe that Rashad's appendices are more reliable than the Qur'aan?! Can you quote me on saying this?
If you are not defending RK ,then what are you doing ?
You are defending persistantly because you think he was right ,while in fact he was a liar.you have NO CREDIBILITY. Please stop spreading lies.
Credibility ??? I need Credibility from Allah only if He accepts. I do not need the desires of Satanic Progeny by defending them.
It is mubaarak to those who are trying to defend the Liars putting aside the Quranic commandments.
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Peace Q_student,
But even native Arabic speakers "translate" in their minds. So for example, some hear the word " " and translate it in their minds to
"The stone cube in Mecca built by the Saudis in 1996 and that has a vagina-shaped enclosure in one of its corners containing some small black stones (Tektites) glued together with epoxy and named the Black Stone."
Other native Arabic speakers hear it and translate it in their mind as
"A rock in Jerusalem".
Yet they are all reading the same Arabic text. Those hidden differences in understanding are exposed when you ask them to translate to English or another language. If you have something against translation in general as a concept then by the same token you must abandon all understanding in general since willingly or unwillingly you translate Arabic words such as " " in your head to whatever meaning you think is right. So if you eliminate the translation in your head then what you are suggesting is not to understand and just read mindlessly as if the great reading is saying "bla bla bla".
Peace,
Ayman
Nice. laugh
Also I would say someone has shown this before in this thread, if not...here Q
4144 And had We made it a non-Arabic Reading, they would have said If only its revelations were made clear! Non-Arabic and Arabic, say For those who believe, it is a guide and healing. As for those who disbelieve, there is deafness in their ears, and they are blind to it. These will be called from a place far away.
Don't be one of them.
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Please provide a translation with the verses you've posted. Otherwise it would be no use to guide non arabic speakers. They will have to follow blind faith.
Please please provide a translation
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Whatever language the Quran may be in, it has to be translated in our minds for it to mean something. We are not the authors of the Quran, we are not God. Therefore God's message is going to translate to us however God wants it to. If we choose to reject what we believe the Quran is telling us (that would be what we think is right, fair, just..) then we're asking for it. This is obvious enough.
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Whatever language the Quran may be in, it has to be translated in our minds for it to mean something. We are not the authors of the Quran, we are not God. Therefore God's message is going to translate to us however God wants it to. If we choose to reject what we believe the Quran is telling us (that would be what we think is right, fair, just..) then we're asking for it. This is obvious enough.
bravo
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Peace
What you used is also a first name, so in some context is not foul (it depends on one's mental creativity - Dick Cheney pops to mind)
What Ayman used is a scientific word, but I never heard someone called by that name... (however, there was a feminist play that had a lot of success called the v***inal monologues ) )By the way, does anyone here think "dick" is foul language? If it is so, ayman's "vagina" (his word of course laugh) falls in the same category, no offense to ayman.
Peace.
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Please provide a translation with the verses you've posted. Otherwise it would be no use to guide non arabic speakers. They will have to follow blind faith.
Please please provide a translation
Sorry you man the Quran is only for Q student if you wnt to understand quran you must learn Arabic and those Arabs who do not under stan Quran shal reject ithail
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These fully referenced . Please you translate for those guys who do not understand Arabic.
As I said, NONE of those verses say that the Qur'aanic manuscripts, translations, or copies can't be changed. If you believe this is the case, then please point out the word(s) that says this plainly... And you're the one quoting those Qur'aanic verses. But now, you want ME to translate them for you? Don't you know what they say? If you know what these are saying, then you do you need a translator? If you know the facts, then post them for EVERYONE to understand, so that your "facts" can either be supported or refuted. That's just common sense, guy...
If you are not defending RK ,then what are you doing ?
You are defending persistantly because you think he was right ,while in fact he was a liar.I'm not defending Rashad Khalifa. His writings speak for him, and he doesn't need anyone to defend him; he did a good enough job of that by himself. I'm simply pointing out your ignorance of his ideologies, his translation, and his project (code 19). You speak like you know what these things consist of, but all your posts concerning him clearly prove otherwise.
It is mubaarak to those who are trying to defend the Liars putting aside the Quranic commandments.
Who put aside Qur'aanic commandments? What are you talking about?
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By the way, does anyone here think "dick" is foul language? If it is so, ayman's "vagina" (his word of course laugh) falls in the same category, no offense to ayman.
Peace.
it is foul language but hardly. its better not to use.
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Only that material comes out what is inside the container.
It is law of nature.
Regards
I don't get it.
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Law of nature is
Fragrance <------------ Flower
Stink <------------ FilthRegards
oh. ok Thank you peace