Hello Folks, Fawzia here! I was a Quranist for 10 months.
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i was referring to the whole thread, it seems to me that you are the only one who doesn't see how rude you come across in your posts.
I?m the ONLY one? So you?ve asked the entire Free-minds community? Wow, you must?ve done a lot of pm work. Either that you consider your opinions as the democratic consensus?
Who told you that the Warsh version is not recited in the mosque? It is, because it is considered to be an authentic reading of the Quran, even though it is a variant.
Oh, it was a friend of a friend of a donkey of a friend of a friend of a friend. But that?s evidence according to you. Unless of course you meant, YOUR friends (and parents) only? I dunno, since you consider yourself the democractic consensus then anything's possible.
Explain to me why this variant is even in print today, if it's not acceptable.
Because Sunnis accept it as a variant thanks to the hadith of 7 ahruf. However, it is not the dominant ?rescension?, not even close. Even your much sought after ?which quran? article author admits that.
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you can look away from evidence, and pretend it isn't evidence, but that doesn't change the fact that it is in PRINT.
YES ! Exactly. That's the intelligence of the God of the Quran. The minute someone modifies the text and PRINTS some copies, automatically his 'protection' of the Quran is nullified. Some 'knower of the known and unseen' He is, huh ?
Take RK's 'sans 9/128-129' as proof of corruption as well. You may as well use it. Also, since there are other books which QUOTE the Quran, that's like printing the Quran without the rest of the Quran so THAT'S proof too, lol.
Jeez.....
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could you have said this differently?
No I can't cuz it was a talking donkey. However, that doesn't diminish the validity of my evidence because in the mythical world of the internet, your dad's friend (and for that matter, you) are as mythical as my friend of a friend's talking donkey. Nothing but typeface on screen.
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Because Sunnis accept it as a variant thanks to the hadith of 7 ahruf. However, it is not the dominant ?rescension?, not even close. Even your much sought after ?which quran? article author admits that.
provide me with relevant articles and hadiths. How am I to know what you are talking about if all you doubt is shout and make wild accusations about me 'pm'ing everyone?
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could you have said this differently?
don't worry, donkey is very innocent and cute animal
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That's not true, let me remind you of this http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9599050.msg224172#msg224172
You didn't come up with a good reason as to why this version should even be in print, and you even suggested that it's only printed in some small enclave of North Africa (not true, since the one I saw at home was bought in Saudi Arabia by my dad's friend.).
How far has this Warsh variant travelled, it's clearly not just in North Africa. Explain to me why it is not justified, considering how old it is, and the fact that they didn't have a computerised system then to record things in an error free manner.
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No I can't cuz it was a talking donkey. However, that doesn't diminish the validity of my evidence because in the mythical world of the internet, your dad's friend (and for that matter, you) are as mythical as my friend of a friend's talking donkey. Nothing but typeface on screen.
where is your evidence?
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provide me with relevant articles and hadiths. How am I to know what you are talking about if all you doubt is shout and make wild accusations about me 'pm'ing everyone?
Here's a good article on it. It's by a Fawzia but he quotes Abu Ammar Yasir Qadhi's book 'introduction to the sciences of the Quran' which is an essential book on the subject
http//www.answering-islam.org/PQ/notrevealed.htm#top
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where is your evidence?
It's a little difficult to bring my observations to you, isnt it? Apprently, you're in the USA which im not.
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Here's a good article on it. It's by a Fawzia but he quotes Abu Ammar Yasir Qadhi's book 'introduction to the sciences of the Quran' which is an essential book on the subject
http//www.answering-islam.org/PQ/notrevealed.htm#top
thanks, now give me proof that the Hafs variant is correct to the last letter.
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hmm.... Hello Folks, over here!! Fawzia was a Quranist for 10 months.
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huh? when did i say observation?
You didnt. You said 'evidence'. My evidence is based on observation which I obtained through research. So in effect, its as mythical as your father's friend.
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hmm.... Hello Folks, over here!! Fawzia was a Quranist for 10 months. o
Maybe 10 seconds....
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You didnt. You said 'evidence'. My evidence is based on observation which I obtained through research. So in effect, its as mythical as your father's friend.
does that mean that the book my father's friend bought isn't real? Are you familiar that you need only one counterexample to disprove a rule? in this case, the rule being that the hafs version is the only correct one?
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have some water please
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thanks, now give me proof that the Hafs variant is correct to the last letter.
Once again, its simple. Quran pegs its 'protectedness' or dhikr or eminent one. 'Hafs' is the eminent one and therefore it is the subject to test. If you find it a mistake with it, bring it forward.