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Is it meant to be? Or not yet? Or never?

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    nsws1988
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    Why would he? If God got inolved, personally in our matters, how could he fairly judge the choices we make?
    2044 "So say to him (pharaoh) soft words, perhaps he will remember or take heed."
    Our future is not predetermined. You have got the basics squared away, just be patient and hopefully everything will work itself out.

    so theres no point asking God for things?

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      so theres no point asking God for things?

      I wouldn't say that.
      God is closer to us than the jugular vein (5016). His energy flows within us (3872), so when we ask God for things, we are tuning into that energy.
      God works through us (817); not against us (479)

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        san
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        so theres no point asking God for things?

        I wouldn't say that.
        God is closer to us than the jugular vein (5016). His energy flows within us (3872), so when we ask God for things, we are tuning into that energy.
        God works through us (817); not against us (479)

        That is very true. And i'll add something different

        The point of asking God for things is that IT TRIGGERS YOURSELF. All the belief and trust you have accumulated through your life on GOD, will be put into what you're asking for. Thus the stronger your belief and trust on GOD is, the stronger your prayer/supplication/invocation is. The respond will be in and around you. Your mind will find ways to make it. GOD willing.

        2186 And when My servants ask you, concerning Me - indeed I am near. I respond to the invocation of the supplicant when he calls upon Me. So let them respond to Me and believe in Me that they may be guided.

        pr

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          nsws1988
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          I wouldn't say that.
          God is closer to us than the jugular vein (5016). His energy flows within us (3872), so when we ask God for things, we are tuning into that energy.
          God works through us (817); not against us (479)

          Thanks for the verse numbers handshake

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            Re asking God for things.

            There is no doubt that turning towards God is beneficial, to call upon etc. However, I am reminded of the wisdom

            "I prayed for twenty years but received no answer until I prayed with my legs" ~Fredrick Douglas

            Similar to 1311 "...God is not to change what is in a people until they change what is within themselves...."

            All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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              2186 And when My servants ask you, concerning Me - indeed I am near. I respond to the invocation of the supplicant when he calls upon Me. So let them respond to Me and believe in Me that they may be guided.

              Has the part been added? I ask simply because without it that verse makes more sense.

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                san
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                Has the part been added? I ask simply because without it that verse makes more sense.

                Thanks! ) It's Sahih International translation. I usually erased every added words in parentheses--missed that though.

                So, let me...

                2186 And when My servants ask you, concerning Me - indeed I am near. I respond to the invocation of the supplicant when he calls upon Me. So let them respond to Me and believe in Me that they may be guided.

                pr

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                  san
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                  Re asking God for things.

                  There is no doubt that turning towards God is beneficial, to call upon etc. However, I am reminded of the wisdom

                  "I prayed for twenty years but received no answer until I prayed with my legs" ~Fredrick Douglas

                  Similar to 1311 "...God is not to change what is in a people until they change what is within themselves...."

                  Very Important Point. Pray, respond, move.

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                    nsws1988
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                    "I prayed for twenty years but received no answer until I prayed with my legs" ~Fredrick Douglas

                    rotfl Funny but true

                    Similar to 1311 "...God is not to change what is in a people until they change what is within themselves...."

                    bravo

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                      Rev_John
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                      rotfl Funny but true

                      bravo

                      God helps those that help themselves

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                        God helps those that help themselves

                        God also help those who help eat me.

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                          God also help those who help eat me.

                          God also help those who help eat you?

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                            Bosnian_Thinker
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                            Bosnian thinker is a tranny

                            o

                            whatever!

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                              Bosnian thinker is a tranny

                              tranny (also tran?nie) /'traeni/ noun (pl. -ies) (informal)
                              (BrE) a transistor radio
                              a transparency (1)

                              he is a transistor radio? ???

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                                nsws1988
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                                tranny (also tran?nie) /'traeni/ noun (pl. -ies) (informal)
                                (BrE) a transistor radio
                                a transparency (1)

                                he is a transistor radio? ???

                                yes

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                                  tranny (also tran?nie) /'traeni/ noun (pl. -ies) (informal)
                                  (BrE) a transistor radio
                                  a transparency (1)

                                  he is a transistor radio? ???

                                  rotfl

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                                    asubmitter
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                                    peace

                                    Salam,
                                    This situation can be applied to anything in life but in my case it is marriage.
                                    If something seems like a blessing from God that he has given you something special (ie the person I like, who is also my bestest friend in the whole wide world) and you want to turn it into something beautiful (ie get married and start a family) but it never seems to work out as planned (ie financial problems) and you pray to God everyday to help you out but nothing changes, how would you know if...

                                    a) it isn't meant to be, so give up right now
                                    b) it will happen at the right time which isn't now, so be patient
                                    c) anything is possible if you work hard to get it, so work hard

                                    I really like this person a lot, we have knows each other for years and both our families know... everything seems right about it and about us getting married. I feel that it was a blessing from God who has let us meet one another and make each other happy. I have been praying to God to help us for so long but nothing has changed (
                                    You get so many sayings about a, b and c but which one is right?

                                    Opposites attract, if you're both the same, I do not think it will work, you're maybe young and impressionable thinking ideally who wish to be with, sometimes something you like maybe bad for you, and something you dislike there may come a lot of good from. Try keep yourself clean and away from sin, because it is a law that anyone who commits adultery or fornication cannot marry a believer, this seems to ring true with me, but may God guide me and my family and we repent firmly and become believers. Think would you be happy, if so then work at it and hopefully it will work out, if you think it is to compete with others to have a prize then for your own good it may not work out. Insha Allah, I hope you have righteous intentions, I remember when I was at university, and not very God conscious, and I wanted to start a relationship with a Christian girl, but no matter what we did to try to come together we just were detracted all the time, maybe this was the will of God, I was about 20 at the time, nine years on I got married to someone who didn't have stay in the UK, her name was the same as the name of the girl I said I would marry when I was only ten, she was bullied because of it, in some ways it come true, 'I said I will marry Nargis, and that is the name my wife goes by with family' on paper it is something else, but coming from Pakistan they never noted her birth only years after were her documents made. I hope you have righteous intentions, not thinking of superior or inferior, envy, greed, ego and such. And I am a submitter and my wife is sunni, but she gets along with my folk. A lot of good has come out something I sort of disliked in the beginning, insha Allah thanks be to God.

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                                      nsws1988
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                                      Peace asubmitter,

                                      Why are you assuming that there are negative intentions involved. I already said that there are financial problems so if I was greedy, wouldn't I go for a rich man instead?
                                      Plus he lives abroad so there's no fornication involved either.
                                      I think you're wrong when you said that if we're the same then it won't work out. We have a lot to talk about because of our similar interests and friction is very minimal since we agree with most things and we're both understanding about any dissimilarities. It might not work for some people but it works for us.

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                                        peace nsws1988

                                        You right I don't know you or your situation, but from my own experience I can say such and such but it may not be what you need to hear, insha Allah, I hope you good luck and no ill feeling, everything I said was purely subjective but may have appeared it could be applied to anyone, I cannot start with I or what I think, trying to make myself feel important, I can only start in the manner I chose, there are many hidden laws unspoken laws that are explained in the art of writing but only the beholder can understand, I try to be observant of God in my actions and words, I try to implement the law in my life rather spend debating over it, I trust my eyes, enough to understand what reality I am percieiving, but recognise God controls all hearts and minds, and sometimes like the Quran says 'truly it isn't their eyes that are blind but their hearts which are inside their breasts.' (2246)

                                        From what I hear you say, I hope you can find a way to be with whoever you feel comfortable with.

                                        From reading your username, I assume you were born in 1988, if so you are 22, same age I was when I wanted to get married to a girl on the same course at uni. I started liking her when I was 20 and spent the next two years trying find the courage to speak to her. I was only a student so didn't have much money either. Insha Allah keep devoting to your Lord, and may He guide you to the easiest of paths.

                                        peace

                                        peace

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                                          nsws1988
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                                          Peace

                                          That's ok. I could see where you were coming from. I just wanted to make my intentions clear.
                                          Thanks for the advice handshake

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