Why assalaam
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Dear Kaamil,
I never criticized you or any other person for not greeting in the end of their prayer. But, as I said before, I do not find any violation of Quranic principle or rule by greeting people or things around in the end of the prayer.
You appear to be itching for a fight because I found no problem in greeting the world around me! I prefer talking to walls than debating issues with people who are eager to fight over formalistic details.
Your prayer is for you and mine is for me ;DPeace,
Edip -
Now now boys, lets keep the peace, I am sure you are both right. Whats in the heart is what really matters. ;D
Don't worry friend. If I wanted to fight over something, this issue would not even appear in the end of my list of, say, 2147 issues. group
As it appears that I have missed answering my friend's question claiming bug's or flower's inability to respond to my greetings ) Well, they do respond, my friend. If I approach to a flower with peace and add a bit water to it, the flower flourishes and provides me with beautiful colors and scents. Some bugs too would not bug me if I greet them nicely. I am never struck by a bee, perhaps because I greet them and treat them with peace. They usually hit those who wave their hands in hostile manner.
Besides, I never hit a wall by accident when I greeted it and acknowledged its presence. ;D
So, everything responds to my greetings of peace, mostly in the same way or better.
Peace,
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Dear Kaamil,
I never criticized you or any other person for not greeting in the end of their prayer. But, as I said before, I do not find any violation of Quranic principle or rule by greeting people or things around in the end of the prayer.
You appear to be itching for a fight because I found no problem in greeting the world around me! I prefer talking to walls than debating issues with people who are eager to fight over formalistic details.
Your prayer is for you and mine is for me ;DPeace,
EdipPeace brother Edip,
Forgive and pardon me if I appear rather too serious in my post. There is no need to fight and fighting has to do with something very physical and you do not fight with somebody you cannot see or touch. Rather than itching for a fight I am rather itching for the truth.
The question is one that seeks clarity for future action of the questioner. That is why I believe a direct and straight forward answer from you would have been appropriate.
Greetings are part of our every day life. We necessarily greet but not to walls, flowers and bugs.
Very seriously I still need your answer to this question; can we by any circumstances end our salat without a salama? Please yes or no?
Thanks, Kaamil. -
Very seriously I still need your answer to this question; can we by any circumstances end our salat without a salama? Please yes or no?
Thanks, Kaamil.In my opinion I'd say yes. But there is no harm in saying salam.
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If I approach to a flower with peace and add a bit water to it, the flower flourishes and provides me with beautiful colors and scents.
Selam Edip
Its funny you should say that. My mum regularly talks to her plants and says plants like that. This is probably why she has green fingers as to speak, many plants blossom with her care. She also talks to animals and loves nature. Well she was a village born person, who is now living in the city which she hates. Always talks about the village, her animals, her plants etc...
Peace
Hope
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Ok, looks like every one is missing the point .
The real question is why do we greed creation ( flowers , bugs , plants , ens. )
when we are talking to ALLAAH . Is there any thing in the
Quran about this issue ???
I do it ( assalaamalaycom ) after prayer becouse I saw
Rashad Khalifa do on you-tube !!!
ALLAAH say so many times to follow the messenger , so
I do what ALLAAH tells me to do .
If any one wants to proof me wrong he/she should provide
QURANIC eviedens please , thank youwalaycomsalaam
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Ok, looks like every one is missing the point .
The real question is why do we greed creation ( flowers , bugs , plants , ens. )
when we are talking to ALLAAH . Is there any thing in the
Quran about this issue ???
I do it ( assalaamalaycom ) after prayer becouse I saw
Rashad Khalifa do on you-tube !!!
ALLAAH say so many times to follow the messenger , so
I do what ALLAAH tells me to do .
If any one wants to proof me wrong he/she should provide
QURANIC eviedens please , thank youwalaycomsalaam
Wow 19th post of yours. wow
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peace Jamaludean, i end my salat with Praise be to GOD, Lord of the universe, i do salat with my mother tong, talking with My God according to what He teached me in Quran, rachad khalifa pray with traditional method, you shall studie Quran to find for your the rules and how to pray. know that the quran is complete and detailled.
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Ok, looks like every one is missing the point .
The real question is why do we greed creation ( flowers , bugs , plants , ens. )
when we are talking to ALLAAH . Is there any thing in the
Quran about this issue ???
I do it ( assalaamalaycom ) after prayer becouse I saw
Rashad Khalifa do on you-tube !!!
ALLAAH say so many times to follow the messenger , so
I do what ALLAAH tells me to do .
If any one wants to proof me wrong he/she should provide
QURANIC eviedens please , thank youwalaycomsalaam
Who was 'the messenger' did you mean? Muhammad or Rashad?
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Ok, looks like every one is missing the point .
The real question is why do we greed creation ( flowers , bugs , plants , ens. )
when we are talking to ALLAAH . Is there any thing in the
Quran about this issue ???I did not miss the point, since greeting is the ENDING of the prayer. If such a greeting was in the middle of prayer, your question would be justified. I think it is very appropriate since you end your communication with your Creator and come back communicating with the the creation.
Peace,
Edip -
Reply to Arijil
According the Quran the last messenger is/was rashad khalifa
GOD took a covenant from the prophets, saying, "I will give you the scripture and wisdom. Afterwards, a messenger will come to confirm all existing scriptures. You shall believe in him and support him." He said, "Do you agree with this, and pledge to fulfill this covenant?" They said, "We agree." He said, "You have thus borne witness, and I bear witness along with you."
381 clearly say that rashad came afterwards...
Recall that we took from the prophets their covenant, including you (O Muhammad), Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus the son of Mary. We took from them a solemn pledge.337 proofs that muhammad was not the last messenger .....
Those hoe don't believe the messengers of GOD might be in trouble on the day of reconing...
Walaycomsalaam
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I did not miss the point, since greeting is the ENDING of the prayer. If such a greeting was in the middle of prayer, your question would be justified. I think it is very appropriate since you end your communication with your Creator and come back communicating with the the creation.
Exalant anser I must say very good but
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Reply to Arijil
According the Quran the last messenger is/was rashad khalifa
GOD took a covenant from the prophets, saying, "I will give you the scripture and wisdom. Afterwards, a messenger will come to confirm all existing scriptures. You shall believe in him and support him." He said, "Do you agree with this, and pledge to fulfill this covenant?" They said, "We agree." He said, "You have thus borne witness, and I bear witness along with you."
381 clearly say that rashad came afterwards...
Recall that we took from the prophets their covenant, including you (O Muhammad), Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus the son of Mary. We took from them a solemn pledge.337 proofs that muhammad was not the last messenger .....
Those hoe don't believe the messengers of GOD might be in trouble on the day of reconing...
Walaycomsalaam
Salam
Thanks for the answer. Is the any other messengers do you believe after Muhammad? Just asking.
Peace.
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GOD is fear and loves you .
HE has send messengers to all nations"O people of the scripture, our messenger has come
to you, to clarify things for you, after a long period
without messengers. Lest you say,
"No preacher or warner has come to us."
A preacher and warner has come to you.
God is Omnipotent. "ist been more than 1406 years now that
the Muhammad walked the earth .
After a long time now ALLAAH did send
Rashad Khalifa as the messenger of the
covenant to purify the Quran and to preatch
the true religition (submition)
The messenger that ALLAAH is talking
about in 519 is/was Rashad KhalifaIt is important to believe these facts
for ouer salvationwalaycomsalaam
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Reply to Arijil
According the Quran the last messenger is/was rashad khalifa
GOD took a covenant from the prophets, saying, "I will give you the scripture and wisdom. Afterwards, a messenger will come to confirm all existing scriptures. You shall believe in him and support him." He said, "Do you agree with this, and pledge to fulfill this covenant?" They said, "We agree." He said, "You have thus borne witness, and I bear witness along with you."
381 clearly say that rashad came afterwards...
Recall that we took from the prophets their covenant, including you (O Muhammad), Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus the son of Mary. We took from them a solemn pledge.337 proofs that muhammad was not the last messenger .....
Those hoe don't believe the messengers of GOD might be in trouble on the day of reconing...
Walaycomsalaam
So did Rashad convey the message tp all dead prophets?
Are you sure that 381 is about human messanger? confused
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Reply for afridi 220
it is verry sad that you are so in dought
about R.K
and also that you had to be the 19 repley
on this matteryou know that the pledge to the profets
were made long before the creation of the
cosmos and it is commensens that all
profets lived and die .
I realy don't understaan your question and
I think you don't belive that Rashad Khalifa is
the messenger of the covanant.Do go and read about the mathamaticel miricule
of the code 19 and you wil see the trueth INSHALLAAHwalaycomsalaam
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Reply for afridi 220
it is verry sad that you are so in dought
about R.K
and also that you had to be the 19 repley
on this matteryou know that the pledge to the profets
were made long before the creation of the
cosmos and it is commensens that all
profets lived and die .
I realy don't understaan your question and
I think you don't belive that Rashad Khalifa is
the messenger of the covanant.Do go and read about the mathamaticel miricule
of the code 19 and you wil see the trueth INSHALLAAHwalaycomsalaam
You are right I don?t believe in Rashad messenger ship my understanding of the verse is that the messenger in question is not a human massager but it is referred to angel Gabriel. yes
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GOD is fear and loves you .
HE has send messengers to all nations"O people of the scripture, our messenger has come
to you, to clarify things for you, after a long period
without messengers. Lest you say,
"No preacher or warner has come to us."
A preacher and warner has come to you.
God is Omnipotent. "ist been more than 1406 years now that
the Muhammad walked the earth .
After a long time now ALLAAH did send
Rashad Khalifa as the messenger of the
covenant to purify the Quran and to preatch
the true religition (submition)
The messenger that ALLAAH is talking
about in 519 is/was Rashad KhalifaIt is important to believe these facts
for ouer salvationwalaycomsalaam
The verse 519 "our messenger has come", it is revealed before Rashad be born isn't it? police